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Here’s the new thread.

I looked at the school thread and wished I hadn't, there are some serious crazies on there.

Completely agree Suffering. It's clear our NHS has fewer beds or staff per head of population than other countries and I've also said a few times it's not clear what they've done to prepare.

This is a crisis caused by lack of planning by our Government with fear and shoddy journalism that doesn't ask the right questions driven by the MSM. Plus a great deal of trying to force people to behave in ways that are at odds with how humans actually behave; I am not going to stop my teenager from doing what teenagers have been programmed to do for millennia as part of normal human development, she's had covid, there's pretty much zero risk.

Honestly there are people on Twitter terrified to send perfectly heathy students back to uni. All the students I know (a lot) either had it in the first few weeks of term or didn't get it and that was that; herd immunity in action 🤷🏻‍♀️.

Completely agree Suffering. It's clear our NHS has fewer beds or staff per head of population than other countries and I've also said a few times it's not clear what they've done to prepare

Good point. Transparency might make the underfunding and mismanaging way too obvious.
We need to know where we the NHS is now as a resource, so that we can deal with the reality and then do better moving forward.

This from The Sunday Times this morning.

@TabbyStar

This from The Sunday Times this morning.

Which means it is still the elderly blocking beds as it has been for many years in my retirement by the sea area

Just catching up with the thread. I keep going back to the protecting nhs capacity issue and so had a look at our local hospital. 780 beds.
Our clinical hospital guy said in his update this week that 128 beds had covid positive patients. That doesn't necessarily mean that covid is the reason they are in there does it?
Also when I googled the occupancy, we are actually at a lower capacity than we were throughout the summer? In total, not just covid. In the summer there was an average total occupancy of about 750. Our current is 590.
I'm so sick of all the manipulation, the projecting scary numbers with no context. I'm fucking over it all now. They stated that the covid rate with this new strain doubles every week....Well why have the cases stabilised again? If a third of infections are caught in hospital then surely that is why hospitals are overwhelmed?
The case numbers will keep on rising as we are testing loads more, but no one is saying where these cases are.
We have multiple vaccines now so we should have reasons to be optimistic. But I feel like my reserves are running out.

Sorry meant to say total capacity 880 not 780.

Re university going back the towns cities that host them many locals do not want them back because they're returning from covid hotspots. DS studies in Leeds which has been hammered, do they need another dose just now??

@justasking111
On the CPAP thread she is claiming she can't be discharged without a negative covid test. Considering you can show positive for up to 90 days I suspect there is a lot of unnecessary bed blocking going on.

[quote LivinLaVidaLoki]@justasking111
On the CPAP thread she is claiming she can't be discharged without a negative covid test. Considering you can show positive for up to 90 days I suspect there is a lot of unnecessary bed blocking going on.[/quote]
Unless she is going 'home' to a care home or to someone ECV why would she not be discharged. That is ridiculous - and as we have all previously suspected - totally in her imagination.

Government meeting on Fourth January to discuss education. DS goes back on the third for exams and assessments that week then no lectures until 25th bet that's the case in many unis

Yes, exactly, if she is an able bodied and able minded adult, with her own home, why doesnt she just discharge herself? I don't think even in the UK in 2020 they can actually detain you for having covid.

Sorry, my last was in reply to @NannyGythaOgg

Care homes stipulate a negative test on discharge but if you're going to your own home and you're medically fit, it is most certainly not a barrier to discharge.

On the subject of bed blocking, a friends parent was taken to hospital as they had fallen out of bed in a care home, was told they would only be there for one night. When they were about to be discharged, the care home said they couldn't come back because someone else in the home had tested positive for covid, this went on for literally months, everytime they arranged the discharge, someone else had tested positive. There was no reason for this person to be in hospital but they were stuck there 8 weeks. Without being allowed visitors, sadly they died of a heart attack a few weeks ago...heartbreaking for the family & how many more beds are being taken up like this??

I haven't read this CPAP thread (not even sure which it is?) but DH's sister tested positive for Covid when she went into hospital to give birth to her daughter! They actually ended up staying in for a few days because of complications with the birth (non-Covid-related) but she certainly wasn't re-tested before discharge.

Jourdain its bonkers

How are you feeling post pneumonia?

When my dad wasin hospital got 2 weeks on a covid ward but not with covid he was tested on arrival but not on discharge. Mind you, there were no covid patients on the covid ward and hadn't been for 3 months

@AcornAutumn

Jourdain its bonkers

How are you feeling post pneumonia?

Thank you, kind of okay! Still coughing, but it is nowhere near as bad as it was. I have some days where I'm exhausted and can't so much and other days where I'm alright. I generally don't like doing nothing, so I have to admit that I've probably been overdoing it on those days and then getting overtired. But it is definitely going in the right direction, I think!

My friend visited from USA ex Welsh lass. She was taken ill so went to local hospital who did one test every two days. After 5 days of this she tried to discharge herself to catch flight home. They said nope luckily her old GP was a personal friend so got her discharged. She got home had every test same day and was diagnosed. This was 20 years ago. This is how USA controls bed blocking she said. You go in get the tests diagnosis and away you go. Insurance companies do it to save money there she said

Jourdain glad you are recovering. I found it very up and down too.

@NannyGythaOgg I do suspect a lot of that thread is at best exaggerated....

It just amuses me slightly that she went off on one posting all over the place that if you don't take covid seriously then read her thread and heed her warning. But all the thread showed that she was really poorly for a night (though well enough for loads of posting) then she recovered after a couple of days....
And regarding your point about being discharged to a care home, I wonder if that's it. Large numbers in care homes getting ill and then can't go back until they are negative? With a virus that can show positive for about 3 months post infection that would account for some bed blocking.

Though they've had all summer to figure out what to do there....

Maybe she's more resilient than me... but when I was in hospital with non-Covid pneumonia, I seriously couldn't post or even read that much. I was so knackered!

Almost at maximum posts so thought I'd start a new thread before we ran out. Hope you don't mind.

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