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ADs building hadron colliders out of used yoghurt pots

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NannyGythaOgg · 10/12/2020 16:01

... whilst waiting to see if the kids are or are not going to school next week and walking with imaginary cows.

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110APiccadilly · 12/12/2020 14:17

Most of our house looks like an explosion at Mothercare. I'm not the most tidy person at the best of times - combination of a small baby and no visitors (except our bubble, who are not going to judge us!) means it's a total tip.

BogRollBOGOF · 12/12/2020 14:17

Legally you can, and in most areas there's no practical restriction.

I'm not sure how far I'd have to go to reach tier 2. Definitely not any neighbouring county.

TheOrchidKiller · 12/12/2020 14:25

@BogRollBOGOF
You get the biggest birthday cake & smother it in candles!

@Mightbealittlebitmad
Flat is the word.

I don't have to face any dilemmas about sending DCs to school as we're not seeing anyone at Christmas anyway. But as DD & I still have to go to work DS would be going, even if we were seeing family.

Back in September we were all leaving the house for work & school, & were going to restaurants, & local cases were rising here, & we saw DPs & PILs. DM enforced social distancing & we didn't hug. Everyone was fine. I don't know if this helps anyone trying to decide what to do for Christmas or not.

The decision to not meet up has been made for us by other family, & strangely, I feel a bit cautious too. I think I'm more worried about DS missing school or DD not being able to work if one of us gets it. Although some of the fear-mongering may have rubbed off on me at last?

TheOrchidKiller · 12/12/2020 14:26

@110APiccadilly
You have the perfect excuse not to do housework!

Justgivemewine · 12/12/2020 14:36

Checking in

I hate that nhs Christmas ad. Fortunately ds3 hasn’t seen it yet and dh has already had to reassure him that Santa can’t get Covid because he is magical, after ds3 started fretting that Santa might not be able to come and how would he social distance and would the presents have to be in quarantine for 3 days ( that last bit being dh’s own special brand of dementoring 🙄)

@110APiccadilly, glad you and little Piccadilly are doing ok 🙂

@AcornAutumn, I’m the same with working out, I used to work out regularly before lockdown but hardly ever do it now even though I have much more time to do it and no excuses not to other than I just can’t get in the mood. I know it would do me good but no motivation.

@Jourdain11, hope you feel better and get to go home soon, although I did have to smile at your poor ds protesting about having to live on rice, 😄
Your poor dd, Ds1 used to head bang too amongst other things so unfortunately I know from experience that school staff don’t like physically intervening and tend to let children get on with the meltdowns unless there is risk of serious injury.
And it’s not your fault ((have an unmumnetty virtual 🤗)

@TrustTheGeneGenie, Flowers

Justgivemewine · 12/12/2020 14:53

Oops posted too soon,

I have a non mess seeing dh too, until of course it inconveniences him or it’s someone else’s mess 🙄

@BogRollBOGOF and @Jourdain11, sadly teachers like that are more common than we’d like.

@flower11, you aren’t being dementory, we all have to make decisions relevant for our circumstances and everyone is different. In our case, mine will be staying in school as we’ve already decided to have Christmas at home, just the 5 of us, (family are all a days travel away anyway so it cuts that stress as well) so if anyone had to isolate it wouldn’t hardly affect us. But in your situation, I’d be considering taking them out too.

LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 12/12/2020 14:57

Pulling DCs out of school for a few days to ensure that you get a decent Christmas isn't dementory. You're not trying to suck out anyone else's joy or affect their time in school.

I was a bit taken back to find Y11 children - ones sitting GCSE not exams next term in Wales possibly - were being taken out of school for christmas travel reasons - DD1 was a bit taken back as well.

Given that welsh governments week of home learning dosen't seem such a bad idea.

Having said that I was speaking to older retired family today and they want all the schools closed everywhere till rates come down - they weren't interested in working parents childcare issues or access to tech problems with home learning - or fact it's kids and parents in their family who'd be adversly affected - very depressing.

LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 12/12/2020 15:06

Youngest isolating now ends on Tuesday, there is lots of talk of are you sending them back. There are currently 8 classes isolating! Most of eldest year group. If they don't go we have Christmas without isolation and my parents could come. Dh thinks they should go and eldest wants to. It's so hard to know what to do.

Unless they were GCSE or A-level years I'd probaly keep them home and I'm usually one for sending the kids in when ever possible - but I'd also want DH on side with the choice so I'm no help at all really - so all I can suggest is you keep talking and taking an eye of the situation.

TheOrchidKiller · 12/12/2020 15:26

Unfortunately, a precedent was set last summer by cancelling GCSEs & A levels, & whether you think that's fair or not, I suppose it would make some people think it's ok to shut schools to older children again because it happened before. I don't think it's ok to shut schools, personally.

In Cleaning News I have just complained about a laptop dumped in a stupid place. DH made the mistake of saying, "Where did you want me to put it?" Ooohhh, now let me think!

TabbyStar · 12/12/2020 15:30

Having said that I was speaking to older retired family today and they want all the schools closed everywhere till rates come down

But they'd probably want someone to be at work for them in a medical or household emergency. Some people are hard of thinking!

My DM (87) has an appointment for the first vaccine next week, I was surprised that it's at her local GP surgery, I was expecting to have to take her across the county to the hospital.

Our Christmas is likely to be quite nothing-y without all the usual rituals and meeting friends. It's just me and DD, maybe my DM for a few hours on the day. My BF normally comes but my DM won't if he does, as DD and I have had covid but he hasn't. I don't really care much about Christmas for myself, but I do feel it's going to be really flat for DD, and emphasising the small-ness of our family unit.

We travelled from the edge of tier 3 to tier 2 yesterday to go to a cafe. No one checked our identity!

Jourdain11 · 12/12/2020 15:37

I got stroppy on a Covid thread so I'm now preparing to be flamed, lol. I questioned the reality of This Terrible Disease. But the comments about Long Covid, and The Vulnerable, really wound me up!

My reply was...

I take a bit of an issue with some of the statements here.

  1. "The vulnerable" have to be careful of infections and illnesses in normal times. The big scare about Covid has given rise to a lot of disproportionate fear and anxiety in many clinically vulnerable people. In reality, the steps they take to protect themselves in usual times would probably have been sufficient in many, if not most cases.
  1. "It’s not just the 'vulnerable' who have been ravaged by this illness. It’s health and social care staff, teachers, shop workers."
Just so that you are aware, many of "the vulnerable" work and you will find them in all these professions!! They're not all sat at home being a drain on society.
  1. "Lots of young, fit people have Long Covid": this seems to be thrown around as a new means of making people feel personally threatened in order to scare them into submission. I'm not denying that post viral Covis syndrome exists, but I feel that there needs to be some robust research around this. Which symptoms can be used to make a diagnosis? What proportion of people is it affecting? Is there a way to mitigate against it in the early stages? Is the incidence of post-viral symptoms/complications higher in Covid than in other viral illnesses?

Do you think I'll get called an anti-vaxxer and a covidiot? Wink

Justgivemewine · 12/12/2020 15:42

Lol @TabbyStar, your last sentence had made me think of the mission impossible music and now I can’t get it out of my head.

justasking111 · 12/12/2020 15:47

Ooh brave lady

FlamedToACrisp · 12/12/2020 15:48

@TabbyStar

Also stories complaining bitterly about having to take a gasmask with them at all times - and being called names for not wanting to.

My DM still has her gas mask from WW2. Hope I don't still have my masks when I'm in my late 80s!

Acorn my DM is very anxious too, it's exhausting.

It's not safe to use old gas masks. Asbestos, I think. I don't suppose she is, but just thought I'd tell you.
justasking111 · 12/12/2020 15:49

This made me giggle. Want to watch the film again bow

ADs building hadron colliders out of used yoghurt pots
TabbyStar · 12/12/2020 15:51

Ha ha, we actually had planned to get take away and drink it sat in the car, as that's what we're used to (though this was just 8 miles down the road), then got there and realised we might as well sit in as sit in the car staring across at it. It was only when we were half way though that it occurred to me that we perhaps shouldn't be there, though I think it's guidance rather than law.

wanderings · 12/12/2020 16:30

@TheOrchidKiller It's a whole myriad of massive precedents: lockdown, cancelling exams, government-mandated dress code (face nappies), emergency laws rushed through without proper scrutiny, and throwing billions upon billions of pounds at the problem. I have mixed feelings about the money thrown at it: it's nice that the government want to "protect" the public in this perverse way, but will the magic money tree have regrown next time there's a virus, especially now that we've destroyed our own economy? People might in future start demanding "give us our lockdown and furlough", when there simply isn't the money for it.

This is a job for after the pandemic, but it needs to be made very clear that this whole thing is NOT NORMAL, and we don't want it to happen again, EVER. We don't want lockdowns becoming the government's default response to other things, such as terrorism, or some Messianic zealot trying to make it their mission to eradicate the common cold, by locking down.

Some know-it-alls (sorry to bring Dementor Central BBC into it) are saying that relaxing the roolz for Christmas was a mistake, when it hasn't even happened yet, adding "but if the government was to change their minds, it might affect public trust": understatement of the year. We might then get the riots and public uprising of "enough is enough" which the government needs to hear; at the moment, Boris-who-can't-tell-the-difference-between-himself-and-God thinks he can crush the public into surrendering to his every whim.

Sonicthehedgehogg · 12/12/2020 16:35

@NannyGythaOgg Those patio slabs are gorgeous. Love the colours in them. Care to share where they're from? 🙏🏻

LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 12/12/2020 16:41

Covid testing of students finds few positive cases

Some good news for university students- many had low rates 0.2% and some had no cases.

110APiccadilly · 12/12/2020 17:08

@LadyOfTheImprovisedBath

Covid testing of students finds few positive cases

Some good news for university students- many had low rates 0.2% and some had no cases.

Herd immunity?
NannyGythaOgg · 12/12/2020 17:12

A friend's daughter is on the HDU of a local hospital. She's 12, generally well, but has occasional epilepsy that they haven't found a cause for. She was (she's a bit better now) struggling to breath and is still needing oxygen. Chest xray is clear and she has had a negative Covid test. Banging veinous antibiotics into her but they're still not sure what is wrong. So many people saying 'At least it's not Covid'.

I'm not posting (other than to say I hope she gets better quickly) as I have no intention of derailing BUT FFS, there are worse things than Covid and HDU at 12 years with an unknown condition is a lot more scary than Covid would be.
(Poor girl (my friend) has had so much bad luck healthwise. She has a son (now 15) that had viral herpes meningitis as a baby and is severely mentally and physically disabled and she had to have a brain tumour removed when her youngest (now 5) was 6 months old which has left her with stress induced epilepsy and therefore no longer allowed to drive.

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LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 12/12/2020 17:18

I suspect herd immunity with many probably getting it first few weeks of term is playing a role but also many lectures and labs are mainly/all on-line and pubs and nighclubs and societies are closed or under restrictions so there's limited social mixing as well.

There's been a few BBC pieces about many students being very isolated and their mental health suffering as a result. But they're not a huge reservoir of infection that many seem to be fearing.

JamSarnie · 12/12/2020 17:18

So many people saying 'At least it's not Covid'.

That's awful and is what annoys me so much. It's like no one has ever died or been seriously ill from anything else ever. How have so many people missed that there are and remain other diseases including viruses that don't discriminate and can cause harm.

LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 12/12/2020 17:23

So many people saying 'At least it's not Covid'.

At 12 covid is unlikely to be serious anyway so I don't get it either.

At least in hospital they can test and monitor and hopefully figure out what is causing the problems so while it must be very scary for them all at least they are in the right place getting some treatment and getting things looked into. I really hope the girl gets better soon.

TheOrchidKiller · 12/12/2020 17:35

"At least it's not Covid'
This is what you might say when someone has a mild cold, not about a 12 year old in HDU. Nanny, I hope she's ok.

People have got it totally out of perspective.

I think there has always been a Hierarchy of Illness, things that are feared more, or garner more sympathy. Covid is definitely up the top right now. MH has always been at the bottom.