So proud of the UK today

[1stDecember]

So, the UK is the first in the world to approve and roll out a Covid vaccination programme. (If another country had done this, say Germany, everyone would be going on about why can't we be as good as the Germans? )

The UK had bought and tested a major amount of the right vaccine - it didn't get here by chance!

The UK Army (which really is world-class) is going to enable the largest vaccine programme ever.

It looks like a Brexit Deal is about to be struck.

And - next year, the UK will be banning the live export of animals. (We couldn't do that in the EU.)

Just feeling really good about the UK today

It doesn't often happen, so I thought I would appreciate the moment

User,

We didn't react quickly enough when Italy was suffering and it was clear this virus was rampaging.

We should have reacted more quickly, shut down quicker, not gone ahead with football matches and horse racing!

Looked to places like South Korea and basically been quicker and more flexible.

To think the best we had told us (valance) that being outside at horse racing is low risk.
He was clearly out of his depth (and mind).
Then jenny Harris declaring in that wooden voice a wooden idea about children in school being safe because they sit at front facing desks

I don't think our pm should be an expert on everything, whether it was Boris or corbyn both have to listen to the medical officers.

Apart from whitty and van tam I don't rate them at all.
However it's clear from the lack of sd in no 10, they didn't take it seriously either.

Boris shaking hands for instance in Westminster cathedral!!
Saying he would shake hands on a covid ward

Oh goodness the care homes scandal! Sending people from hospital into care homes without knowing if they were a covid risk!!

When does the vaccination program start in the UK? Any idea how quickly it will progress?

@DimJim

of course brexiteers do care. its just they tend to be a bit older and wiser and the remoaners have such a tiny memory, they have nothing to compare there life style too, etc etc etc

Loving the irony of someone who can't remember basic grammar and spelling accusing others of having a tiny memory.

@DimJim

of course brexiteers do care. its just they tend to be a bit older and wiser and the remoaners have such a tiny memory, they have nothing to compare there life style too, etc etc etc

you cannot be old with a name like Jason sorry

thats why my name is Dim, you idiot, ffs

.....what?

Is that you Gavin?

The key problem was not reacting to the 2016 pandemic warnings and burying the report.

I have to say I agree. My 9 year old daughter and I did a high 5 and danced around the kitchen this week on the morning the vaccine was approved we also came out of lockdown. It was definitely a day to be happy and celebrate and feel very proud.

I don't get it. Feel proud of what?
Feeling proud relates to some achievement or at least it should. I can think of a lot of words to describe the feeling one gets when hearing of the vaccine, but proud would not be one of them. Neither would it in relation to British atm.

I just hope however that actually, being able to swiftly approve this vaccine is going to show the big benefit of leaving the eu

Apparently they are arguing over who gets it first, I had thought they could simply control their own health systems but apparently not.
That's a very deep reach of the eu. Poorer countries can't store the vaccine as easily as France and Germany.

So maybe there is a benefit after all.

@TheRubyRedshoes

The chair of the MHRA said exactly the opposite, as we are still in transition and are still subject to all the same rules as any other EU member, the emergency use approval was done under EU EMA rules.

Other countries all around the world, USA, Japan, NZ Australia Korea etc and the countries that make up the EU, are taking a more cautious path, thats not to say the vaccine is in anyway unsafe but that their regulators want more data, that maybe because the MHRA was studying the available data earlier but its not because we have left the the EU because we are still in transition.

@TheRubyRedshoes

I just hope however that actually, being able to swiftly approve this vaccine is going to show the big benefit of leaving the eu

Apparently they are arguing over who gets it first, I had thought they could simply control their own health systems but apparently not.
That's a very deep reach of the eu. Poorer countries can't store the vaccine as easily as France and Germany.

So maybe there is a benefit after all.

You are so misinformed.

1. Countries do control their local NHS and do make their own decisions. The EU is a framework which gives quite wide control over national issues.

1. how the hell will this show the benefit of leaving the EU? Please explain as there is no way on earth that this will be a logical reasoning, but I'm listening.

1. Poorer countries in the EU are Romania, Hungary, eastern bloc. They do have the storage capacity and logistics. When the WHO talks about poorer countries they mean sub african and asian nations where people still live in straw houses and healthcare is the local shaman banging drums. Let's not confuse the 2.

1. The countries' medical regulatory body approves the vaccine. For example Hungary is on track to approve Sputnik. EU has sad it doesn't have enough evidence to even consider a formal approval and what they see is sketchy at best. Yet, an EU country still is going ahead and will approve it and start inoculating residents with it most potentially. So please tell me how the EU is holding back any country?

It is laughable that people think east european countries do not have decent fridges.
Bulgaria is a hub for hi tech network support for UK companies, i think they can manage a fridge or 10 - a home for Boris?

The consultant who treated my fractured hip was Romanian, she has now returned home because of brexit (my DD did a placement in the same hospital as her)

You are sorry misinformed?

Wow, it's an idle thought out loud actually.

Whatever it is its clear the eu countries are shackled to one another and cannot make descions on their own.

Anyway I'll go and get my degree in this before I start comment again

Whatever it is its clear the eu countries are shackled to one another and cannot make descions on their own.
Ha ha ha ha ha

EU countries set their own tax systems
EU countries set their own welfare systems
EU countries run their own armed forces
EU countries set their own labour policies
EU countries run their own elections
EU countries decide their own healthcare and governance systems
EU countries have sovereignty

@TheRubyRedshoes - Whatever it is its clear the eu countries are shackled to one another and cannot make descions on their own.

How, then, do you explain how Hungary is able to approve the Russian vaccine on its own? Have they left the EU and not bothered to tell anyone or, perhaps, you don't understand the process (no degree required to understand it)?

Any member country can, in certain circumstances, approve medicines unilaterally for use in their own country. If that was not the case, the UK would not have been able to approve the Pfizer vaccine as they are subject to EU rules until the end of the year.

@OchonAgusOchonO
Have they left the EU and not bothered to tell anyone
Please, please do not joke with that!!! :)

@TheRubyRedshoes - Whatever it is its clear the eu countries are shackled to one another and cannot make descions on their own.

This is not a misconception. This is just a straight out lie that gullible and stupid people parrot when they can't be bothered to think for themselves.

This is just a straight out lie that gullible and stupid people parrot

Yup, but as this thread evidences, it’s swallowed hook line and sinker by an alarming high number of people.

Benefit rates in the EU are different in each country, article in Daily Telegraph October 19 2013, unfortunately pay walled.

Hard to believe but we have had control of our borders as we’re not part of the Schengen agreement.

However, large parts of our infrastructure companies and fishing fleets are EU owned because we sold them. On January 1st they will still be owned by the EU. Funny old world, innit?

And couldn't resist posting this one

www.dw.com/en/brussels-calls-out-uks-boris-johnson-over-fishy-anecdote/a-49640768

Boris is complaining about some EU rules supposedly effecting the Isle of Man. In fact they were UK rules.

Whatever it is its clear the eu countries are shackled to one another and cannot make descions on their own

Jeez wept! You ve just heard the head of the MHRA disputes your belief and now you know that Hungary (an EU member country) can approve the Russian Sputnik 5 vaccine but still you persist in your wholly inaccurate "ideas"

@Bluethrough

It is laughable that people think east european countries do not have decent fridges. Bulgaria is a hub for hi tech network support for UK companies, i think they can manage a fridge or 10 - a home for Boris?

The consultant who treated my fractured hip was Romanian, she has now returned home because of brexit (my DD did a placement in the same hospital as her)

Ah, but have had a British minister, no less, tell us that 'we're' the "best country" in the world - so it must be true that everywhere else is a total shithole.