ADs trying to stay upright in a muddy park

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Another thousand posts filled and we're ploughing on through another weekend of squelching through parks before we hit the Long Dark Teatime of the Soul.

The AD chat continues...

@AcornAutumn

I shop at night

Queues are back in this area.

Prompted by another thread, I’d love a Black Books anti Christmas special. It’s doable. Fran and Manny would be all over the Christmas booze and Bernard would be...Bernard.

He’d need to eat. Christmas coaster this time though.

Black books Xmas special would work for me.

Congratulations on your tiny pickle, @110APiccadilly. Hope you are enjoying newborn cuddles.

@AcornAutumn Indeed, which Easter?

All the dementors are saying “it’s just ONE Christmas”. Did Saint Boris get that memo?

I have just seen this on BBC which looked kind of hopeful

Move to personal responsibility after Easter, says Hancock
Matt Hancock, who's faced two hours of questioning by MPs from the health and science committees, said there would be a shift to an emphasis on "personal responsibility" rather than social distancing restrictions after Easter - once the vaccine has reached the most vulnerable people.

He said the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) had recommended that once all those aged 50 years and over had been vaccinated - group 10 on their priority list - social distancing restrictions that "damage" society were likely to be lifted.

"I think that, should we manage to get the number of deaths, the number of hospitalisations, down sharply because of the vaccination programme then essentially I think we will get to the point where we are protecting the most vulnerable and there [is)] the argument for more personal responsibility, he said.

Although I do wonder how some might cope with that. I mean some of the dementors really. Will they still be shouting at people.

@110APiccadilly congratulations.

@TrustTheGeneGenie sorry about your friend.

Move to personal responsibility after Easter, says Hancock

Makes sense - we can't keep shutting down - though does make me think hand gel and masks may be around a while longer.

Freedom after group 10.... But when is that likely to be? That's likely quite a lot of people isn't it?

That's a huge number of people. Everyone over fifty seems insane. Over 60 I could get on board with.

@TrustTheGeneGenie im so so sorry to hear about your friend. Its fucking criminal that he was forced to spend his last months like this.

It'll be some time before they make it to the 50+ group won't it? DH and I are joking about how long it will take and whether it'll happen before his 50th in the summer.

"Personal responsibility" is kind of good... but it might take a long time for that to wear off with some people. Hopefully a lot will drop measures as soon as they feel that they're not required as the done thing and the balance of people following the majority will do the same. Few people will want to be outliers long-term.

Was out running along a country lane earlier. It was relatively busy as in I saw 3 pairs of people oncoming over a mile, minutes away from each other. One person had a mask on. I'm guessing that they're taking their constitutional with someone else. I just find it sad that to be out somewhere where space and ventilation are total non-issues that people are worried enough to cover their face in disposable plastic to go out for a walk. How do you get the confidence to go back to normal social interraction from that stage?
"Personal responsibility" is a nice cop-out so the government doesn't have to risk using that four-letter S word.

@wanderings Its like they think shouting it at us will wipe the last nine months from our minds.

I can't wait to get back to being 'personally responsible' for my own health and risk assessment.

Honestly I really don't care if some people want to continue to hide away when that time comes as long as they don't try and force that onto me.

I doubt though that everyone over 50 would be vaccinated by Easter but I hope I am wrong. In which case DH would be vaccinated but not me

I think that two or three years from now when things are back to normal that if it reverts back to type in some areas (because treatment differs in area to area hence the phrase postcode lottery) and people struggle to get treatment like they did pre and during Covid there will be a lot of resentment and outrage.

"Well i obeyed all the rules , stayed home to protect the NHS, and sacrificed time with my family members and now i cant get the treatment i need"

Magnified 10000000 times if any of those family members died due to the lockdowns.

My Dad is really struggling - we work together but as he's 75 he's been shielding as mum is vulnerable. He came down to the office yesterday all masked up and socially distanced to discuss some stuff and seemed so down - I confess that I did, after checking he was OK with it, give him the biggest hug ever and told him how much I love him. Its the first time for many weeks that I've been able to do that and I hope it made as much of a positive difference to him as it did to me. .

Bog, what’s the S word please?

Vid of MP Charles Walker objecting to an elderly protester being put into a police van. Also contains vid of him bringing it up in HoC.

THREAD twitter.com/Tridg98/status/1331236485748678657?s=20

Mercy, I’m wondering if MSM will cover that!

Just checking in for my dose of sanity ladies. Keep up the good work. You do my soul good.

@Blobby10

My Dad is really struggling - we work together but as he's 75 he's been shielding as mum is vulnerable. He came down to the office yesterday all masked up and socially distanced to discuss some stuff and seemed so down - I confess that I did, after checking he was OK with it, give him the biggest hug ever and told him how much I love him. Its the first time for many weeks that I've been able to do that and I hope it made as much of a positive difference to him as it did to me. .

Blobby - I confess that made me a bit teary. We've been hugging my parents since it started but I know so many people have been scared to, which is horrible.

Bog “ Was out running along a country lane earlier. It was relatively busy as in I saw 3 pairs of people oncoming over a mile, minutes away from each other. One person had a mask on. I'm guessing that they're taking their constitutional with someone else. I just find it sad that to be out somewhere where space and ventilation are total non-issues that people are worried enough to cover their face in disposable plastic to go out for a walk. How do you get the confidence to go back to normal social interraction from that stage?”

Something occurred to me about this earlier. Are some of the “mask outdoors” folk a bit ill, e.g. sore throats, colds. Some people will go running with that and certainly they’ll pop to shops etc.

I wondered if it would account for all the masks I saw outside yesterday, so suddenly. I can believe that the November colds are starting.

@110APiccadilly woo hoo, an early baby means you will be fine by xmas so that is a blessing. Love baby cuddles.

@TrustTheGeneGenie so sorry about your friend robbed of his retirement.

Vaughan Gething said he had not hugged his mum since March, well I thought what a sanctimonious unfeeling git you are. He went onto say he hoped to see her again by her next birthday WTF

The masks give me a sore throat for the rest of the day if I have to wear them for any length of time.

@TrustTheGeneGenie
I'm sorry for your loss

@TrustTheGeneGenie
Sorry for your loss.

@TrustTheGeneGenie I am so so sorry for your loss