Part time job £24,000, does it exist???

[OhDearWhyAmIFatterly]

I want to change career
I am so demotivated its unreal.
Been a teacher, now SLT for nearly 20 years. I just don't want to do it any more.
I still want to be part time so I can do a couple of days pick up/drop off.
DH doesn't think jobs exist outside of teaching where I could match my current salary. I know I am well paid but I have been doing it for nearly 20 years and experience should count right?
So fed up....

I think lots of traditional public sector jobs are just not what they used to be. I know I sound like a grumpy old woman, but it's lost its sparkle and magic in school.
From some of the other teachers past and present it seems I'm not alone.
I also totally agree with thinking carefully about the benefits of teaching, the pension, holidays (although we aren't paid for them, only 39 weeks) and of course I'm so grateful to be employed during this crisis.
Teaching is all I've ever known, so having the confidence to even apply for something else is massive.

I tried to leave teaching. I ended up in a band 3 clinical NHS role and couldn't progress. I don't qualify for student finance as I'm on Wales and already have a degree. In the end I gave up and went back to teaching. It's been fine until now but this year has been just awful.

I do think you have to start with an entry level post and work up, it's just whether or not it's possible now.

I think lots of traditional public sector jobs are just not what they used to be.

They are not but the private sector isn't either. I moved back to the public sector basically because I wanted flexi hours & pension. Yes it pays less but overall it doesn't.

I also totally agree with thinking carefully about the benefits of teaching, the pension, holidays (although we aren't paid for them, only 39 weeks)

You are not paid for the holidays but remember an equivalent 39k salary job will likely have max 30 days holiday & it may be 25.

Job security in this current climate is a big positive imo.

Personally I would try a different school or the independent sector before walking away.

Plenty of ex teachers and lecturers in the civil service. Many even very high level staff finish early once or twice a week to do school pick ups while working full time thanks to flexi working and almost all roles are available as part-time or job share. Huge variety of roles available depending on skills and experience and greater range of options now it's mostly home working too.

@Backbee

I work 3 days a week and my take home pay is £1500, in admin.

Seriously how?

I am in admin, full time and my take home is less than £1300.

You need to think about your pension as well. A teachers pension is very good compared to a lot of jobs.

@Tinyhumansurvivalist What's your hourly rate, it seems very low?

[quote boboroll]@Tinyhumansurvivalist What's your hourly rate, it seems very low?[/quote]
No idea. Pa is £18700

how many hours a week? where about are you?

@OhDearWhyAmIFatterly

This thread is so interesting and I appreciate all of your helpful advice. I think scrapthatthen, you are probably right. The benifits of reaching are great, holiday, pension etc I just don't know if I even fully believe in our education model any more. I qualified in 2004 when it was sink or swim. but if you swam you were rewarded with autonomy over your class and a respect of your ability to move children on successfully. Now it's all data and scheme driven and I feel the soul has been ripped out of what being a teacher is Sorry, massive rant! Just trying to get my head around whether I could put up with it to enjoy the benefits....

I’ve no advice to give but just wanted to say that I absolutely recognise your perspective on teaching-I started in 2003 and would have paid them to let me do the job but by the time I left in 2017 it was unrecognisable. They are losing good staff for a flawed philosophy of education.

I think it works out as around £9.50/hour but by the time tax, ni and pension is deducted my take home is about £1295/month. I am.midlands based. For my area I am allegedly on a high wage. But another member on our team who on paper does the same job but in reality does less and has less responsibility is on over £25000/year. She was hired a year before I started and is apparently on a different contract so they won't do anything to match her salary for the rest of us.

I am a single mum and I don't qualify for UC becausemy gran left me more than 6k in inheritance. It's a rubbish situation.

Local authority/ civil service would snap you up OP.

Just reading through this I can’t believe how badly educators are paid in the UK. The most important of jobs (bar maybe nursing)

I’m neither by the way

@Tinyhumansurvivalist yes I thought it might be £9 something. I would consider that low but can only compare to London.

Have you looked at public sector in your area as it may be better to move jobs?

@boboroll they aren't much better paid and hugely dependent on who you know

@Belladonna12

I see people keep mentioning university professional service jobs and that may be a good idea at some point in the future. However, I think those jobs are the 1st to go when universities make redundancies which is likely to start happening next year.

That may be true in some universities but not all. I also work in a university and we are looking a lot better off than predicted, despite the loss of our usually high number of international students. Our CFO is confident that we will be able to start hiring for new positions again soon.

If you are looking at universities, OP, I’d look at their rankings carefully. A study in the summer found that the ‘least prestigious’ were at highest risk of financial difficulties.

I earn more than that on a 17.5 hour post, I’m in a local authority Learning & Development role specialising in multi-agency safeguarding practice. You’d have lots of transferable skills in that kind of role. You could also look at Academy groups, some of their safeguarding lead roles are very well paid.

Nursing, doing 3 long days (12 hours a day) a week (so not really part time just more hours across fewer days!). Start pay for a NQ is around £24k. You'd have to retrain, though, and obviously it's not for everyone!

I haven’t read the full thread, but when I saw the title I came onto suggest teaching! Should have realised it was a teacher looking for out, as I’ve often wondered how I could make the same money on the same hours without the difficulties of teaching.

I don’t have the answer, but I do wonder if this is the wrong time to leave the profession. I’m feeling very disillusioned with my job as a teacher, I think it’s natural to feel that way just now - the need for us has never been more acute in my 15 years, but I’ve never felt more unappreciated by the general public. Maybe we’ve always been unappreciated and I just didn’t notice until Covid. I think this feeling “of the magic being gone” will pass. Things will get better.

Look at local government, I'm a programme manager / team leader. 3 days a week for £25k before tax. Often temporary contracts to start with but if they like you they'll keep you.

You must be in a very small school if SLT are on less than L1. Look at bigger schools, indies, or MATs.

@housemdwaswrong Out of interest, how did you retrain in that, what does it entail etc? Interested myself (also a teacher)

@doglove with CIEP, chartered institute of proofreading and editing, formerly society for proofreaders and editors. (On phone in bed btw so please don't judge grammar and capitalisation in this post!) :)

Much more difficult than I thought tbh but I'm really glad it was because I feel more prepared for the reality of it.

The support is good, and the forums are excellent. It's not overly cheap, but in the scheme of things it's not a fortune either.

I've done proofreading 1, 2 and 3, and their theses and dissertation module. I've paid for books, pens and a website but that's my entire start up cost apart from training.

I've really enjoyed, but it's not for the faint hearted! My bauchi level of English is very good, so i was surprised at the difficulties I had, but there is so much to take in.

The only thing I would say is the time they say it will take to compete it's nowhere near reality. I think proofreading 3 was 25 hours, but that's only if you get everything bang on first time. With waiting for feedback which isn't quick, you're about 2 months.

If you'd like to know anything else please pm :)

Ciep.uk is the Web address.

*basic level...I did say not to judge :)