Part time job £24,000, does it exist???

[OhDearWhyAmIFatterly]

I want to change career
I am so demotivated its unreal.
Been a teacher, now SLT for nearly 20 years. I just don't want to do it any more.
I still want to be part time so I can do a couple of days pick up/drop off.
DH doesn't think jobs exist outside of teaching where I could match my current salary. I know I am well paid but I have been doing it for nearly 20 years and experience should count right?
So fed up....

[Musmerian]

@Mumofcats5 - the Dfe always looking to learn from teachers. You must have an excellent sense of humour!

[PucePanther]

There are plenty of jobs that pay that and much more, even part time. The difficulty is walking into a job that you haven't done before and expecting a salary that is usually connected to experience
This is the crux of it. Most people who have good part time jobs started off as full time, got several years experience, then dropped to part time. There are virtually no well paid jobs where you could enter as part time. No well paid jobs where you can be well paid as soon as you start either. Whatever job you take and whatever hours you work, you’ll be taking a massive pay cut because you’ll be classed as entry level with no experience. This is why so many teachers remain miserable and trapped in teaching. Also because employers are prejudiced against hiring ex teachers.

[TeaAndHobnob]

Are you on Twitter OP?

Follow @penny_ten every Sunday, she posts jobs relevant to people who want to move out of teaching/education. You might find something from her posts over the last couple of weeks, get an idea of relevant jobs.

[Fortherosesjoni70]

I've considered doing online tutoring. Anyone done this? Any websites?

[Fortherosesjoni70]

@OhDearWhyAmIFatterly

I think lots of traditional public sector jobs are just not what they used to be. I know I sound like a grumpy old woman, but it's lost its sparkle and magic in school.
From some of the other teachers past and present it seems I'm not alone.
I also totally agree with thinking carefully about the benefits of teaching, the pension, holidays (although we aren't paid for them, only 39 weeks) and of course I'm so grateful to be employed during this crisis.
Teaching is all I've ever known, so having the confidence to even apply for something else is massive.

I'm the same with the confidence thing.
Don't think that changing jobs for me, security wise, will happen with covid.
For all I dislike aspects of my job, job security and pension are huge factors. I'm also early 50's so new careers seem a bit unrealistic sadly.

[3rdNamechange]

People saying nursing ??? Don't forget the three years training first with all the placements and assignments.
Also part time at £23k would take years.

[Suzi888]

@Tinyhumansurvivalist
If you don’t mind a little customer service and form filling with your admin there are jobs in benefits and housing that will be around £26-£30k salary. But with housing there’s also a rota basis call out service and 24/7 telephone shifts that’s £100-£200 on top per shift. You may or may not get called out.
If you progress well, then you can expect up to around the £40k salary (with call outs on top) before you’d have to take on a management role. As the job can have a high turnover, progression can be fairly fast.

[Thirtyrock39]

saltyaf I'm in the same boat as you in nhs band 3 with no chance of progression . Husband stayed in teaching and is really high up now and earns x 3 what I do - often wonder if I should have stayed teaching

[PhilCornwall1]

In the last team I managed, one of the team members dropped to 3 days a week and still earned £40k, so yes the jobs do exist.

[KTD27]

Yes @OhDearWhyAmIFatterly DM me! Also look at didteach.com is good for ideas

[housemdwaswrong]

*basic level...I did say not to judge :)

[housemdwaswrong]

@doglove with CIEP, chartered institute of proofreading and editing, formerly society for proofreaders and editors. (On phone in bed btw so please don't judge grammar and capitalisation in this post!) :)

Much more difficult than I thought tbh but I'm really glad it was because I feel more prepared for the reality of it.

The support is good, and the forums are excellent. It's not overly cheap, but in the scheme of things it's not a fortune either.

I've done proofreading 1, 2 and 3, and their theses and dissertation module. I've paid for books, pens and a website but that's my entire start up cost apart from training.

I've really enjoyed, but it's not for the faint hearted! My bauchi level of English is very good, so i was surprised at the difficulties I had, but there is so much to take in.

The only thing I would say is the time they say it will take to compete it's nowhere near reality. I think proofreading 3 was 25 hours, but that's only if you get everything bang on first time. With waiting for feedback which isn't quick, you're about 2 months.

If you'd like to know anything else please pm :)

Ciep.uk is the Web address.

[Doglove]

@housemdwaswrong Out of interest, how did you retrain in that, what does it entail etc? Interested myself (also a teacher)

[YippieKayakOtherBuckets]

You must be in a very small school if SLT are on less than L1. Look at bigger schools, indies, or MATs.

[missymousey]

Look at local government, I'm a programme manager / team leader. 3 days a week for £25k before tax. Often temporary contracts to start with but if they like you they'll keep you.

[BigSisLittleSisCardboardBox]

I haven’t read the full thread, but when I saw the title I came onto suggest teaching! Should have realised it was a teacher looking for out, as I’ve often wondered how I could make the same money on the same hours without the difficulties of teaching.

I don’t have the answer, but I do wonder if this is the wrong time to leave the profession. I’m feeling very disillusioned with my job as a teacher, I think it’s natural to feel that way just now - the need for us has never been more acute in my 15 years, but I’ve never felt more unappreciated by the general public. Maybe we’ve always been unappreciated and I just didn’t notice until Covid. I think this feeling “of the magic being gone” will pass. Things will get better.

[KrisKringlesLeftNostril]

Nursing, doing 3 long days (12 hours a day) a week (so not really part time just more hours across fewer days!). Start pay for a NQ is around £24k. You'd have to retrain, though, and obviously it's not for everyone!

[Jellycatspyjamas]

I earn more than that on a 17.5 hour post, I’m in a local authority Learning & Development role specialising in multi-agency safeguarding practice. You’d have lots of transferable skills in that kind of role. You could also look at Academy groups, some of their safeguarding lead roles are very well paid.

[NoNarniaBecauseLipstick]

@Belladonna12

I see people keep mentioning university professional service jobs and that may be a good idea at some point in the future. However, I think those jobs are the 1st to go when universities make redundancies which is likely to start happening next year.

That may be true in some universities but not all. I also work in a university and we are looking a lot better off than predicted, despite the loss of our usually high number of international students. Our CFO is confident that we will be able to start hiring for new positions again soon.

If you are looking at universities, OP, I’d look at their rankings carefully. A study in the summer found that the ‘least prestigious’ were at highest risk of financial difficulties.

[Tinyhumansurvivalist]

@boboroll they aren't much better paid and hugely dependent on who you know

[boboroll]

@Tinyhumansurvivalist yes I thought it might be £9 something. I would consider that low but can only compare to London.

Have you looked at public sector in your area as it may be better to move jobs?

[SunscreenCentral]

Just reading through this I can’t believe how badly educators are paid in the UK. The most important of jobs (bar maybe nursing)

I’m neither by the way

[Suzi888]

Local authority/ civil service would snap you up OP.

[Tinyhumansurvivalist]

I think it works out as around £9.50/hour but by the time tax, ni and pension is deducted my take home is about £1295/month. I am.midlands based. For my area I am allegedly on a high wage. But another member on our team who on paper does the same job but in reality does less and has less responsibility is on over £25000/year. She was hired a year before I started and is apparently on a different contract so they won't do anything to match her salary for the rest of us.

I am a single mum and I don't qualify for UC becausemy gran left me more than 6k in inheritance. It's a rubbish situation.

[MrsWooster]

@OhDearWhyAmIFatterly

This thread is so interesting and I appreciate all of your helpful advice.
I think scrapthatthen, you are probably right. The benifits of reaching are great, holiday, pension etc I just don't know if I even fully believe in our education model any more. I qualified in 2004 when it was sink or swim. but if you swam you were rewarded with autonomy over your class and a respect of your ability to move children on successfully. Now it's all data and scheme driven and I feel the soul has been ripped out of what being a teacher is
Sorry, massive rant! Just trying to get my head around whether I could put up with it to enjoy the benefits....

I’ve no advice to give but just wanted to say that I absolutely recognise your perspective on teaching-I started in 2003 and would have paid them to let me do the job but by the time I left in 2017 it was unrecognisable. They are losing good staff for a flawed philosophy of education.