Part time job £24,000, does it exist???

[OhDearWhyAmIFatterly]

I want to change career
I am so demotivated its unreal.
Been a teacher, now SLT for nearly 20 years. I just don't want to do it any more.
I still want to be part time so I can do a couple of days pick up/drop off.
DH doesn't think jobs exist outside of teaching where I could match my current salary. I know I am well paid but I have been doing it for nearly 20 years and experience should count right?
So fed up....

[Fortherosesjoni70]

@OhDearWhyAmIFatterly

I'm just not sure what I want to do.
I think you are right, full time with no additional hours at home, or the worry and stress would probably be OK. I just keep saying I want to work in waitrose, friendly people, not too taxing on my brain, no worry to take home about whether a child is OK, or data that needs doing or a million other things!
I'm in primary so no specialist subject

You sound like me. I am the same OP. Actually, when i saw the title I was going to post well you can do teaching!!!
Would love to get out. No idea what i would do either but watching with interest.

[LittleRa]

Ha ha I saw your thread title and I was going to come on to say teaching!! I’m a primary teacher and SENCO and have recently been interested in looking at doing an MSc in Language Pathology and becoming a Speech Therapist.

[viccat]

I have friends who are freelancers/have set up their own businesses and take home more than you do and set their own hours. Saying that though it's not an easy option if you're used to a steady pay check as it takes ages to build up to that level and it's competitive. Depends on what you're good at though as having specialist expertise can really help. Being self-employed tends to come with a "feast and famine" cycle where you get lots of work at times and then hardly anything for ages... Easier to build up alongside employment before you take the leap.

[LittleRa]

Ha ha @Fortherosesjoni70 cross post snap

[Belladonna12]

I see people keep mentioning university professional service jobs and that may be a good idea at some point in the future. However, I think those jobs are the 1st to go when universities make redundancies which is likely to start happening next year.

[notalwaysalondoner]

Have you looked into private tutoring? My DH used to get up to £70/hour (admittedly he was Oxbridge and had a PhD but 20 years teaching experience would count for a lot). And it's insanely flexible if you do teaching in other time zones e.g. China, or are willing to work weekends. Plus if you're in London you can do in-person tutoring too (Covid permitting) which will probably pay better.

[Onjnmoeiejducwoapy]

There are lots of jobs that fit the bill, the problem is just whether you have the skills, qualifications and experience to get them. I think university admin and civil service are the only areas you can reasonably expect to transfer to at that level without first having to do years of training or get experience.

[TragedyHands]

My friend came out of teaching and was earning this and more part time, but she went straight into a management position, as had a masters in Management .

[ThanksItHasPockets]

I take home around 1600
Full time would be £39,000

I'm sorry if I've missed something as I've read OP's posts but no others - but why does your SLT job pay less than L1? L1 London fringe is £43,750 this year.

[SheridansSmyth]

@ThanksItHasPockets

I take home around 1600
Full time would be £39,000

I'm sorry if I've missed something as I've read OP's posts but no others - but why does your SLT job pay less than L1? L1 London fringe is £43,750 this year.

Was just wondering this myself...I am in teaching but stepped down from leadership responsibilities but still take home significantly more than that in the back end of beyond.

[OhDearWhyAmIFatterly]

I have student loan payment and childcare voucher that comes out. Also, I am on a border so I live in London but work over the border so no London weighting, even fringe!

[ThanksItHasPockets]

You're still paying off your student loan after qualifying in 2004? You should have been eligible for the repayment of student loans scheme back then. I qualified the year after you and remember very clearly that we were the first cohort not to receive it.

This won't help if you have completely fallen out of love with education but I highly recommend the lead practitioner route. I'm on LP4 which is the equivalent of L4, working 0.6. I'm in a teaching school but many MATs are looking for lead pracs to work in their central teams.

[Lightsabre]

Definitely not social work - that'd be out of the frying pan into the fire!

If you're a good public speaker, what about delivering training courses?

[Theforest]

I would also check local government. If you are happy to stay in education related work then you can work for LEA.

[leavingvegas]

following this thread with interest. am not a teacher but a lecturer also thinking about outside options. to those of you who have recommended getting into delivering training course of HE professional services - would any one have any tips on how to do that? also how easy is it to get into CS role if you're not straight out of uni?

[Thirtyrock39]

As an ex teacher I struggled to find anything anywhere near a teacher salary I'm afraid but I have a job I like slot more than teaching and that is pretty low stress - never work outside my hours and would never get a work call at weekend or evening like Teaching- however I do sometimes regret taking my foot off the career ladder so spectacularly!!
I'm always looking at jobs and council jobs are quite well paid (a lot more than my nhs role) . For example a job like a family support worker you would be working with children and families to give them support and a teaching qualification would be v transferable - they are in my east mids area around £25000 full time which is less than what you are on part time but I bet you would end up working less than you do now (I'm married to a primary teacher so know how many hours he does )

[Hardbackwriter]

@Belladonna12

I see people keep mentioning university professional service jobs and that may be a good idea at some point in the future. However, I think those jobs are the 1st to go when universities make redundancies which is likely to start happening next year.

I think there's some truth in this, but I'd say the bigger problem is that there are a lot of hiring freezes so finding jobs would be harder than usual in the first place. But that's true of nearly every option that's been put forward, unfortunately. There are some sectors doing very well out of coronavirus but none of them seem like obvious fits for OP so any move is likely to come with a risk of future redundancy and a harder time finding a job than OP would have had a year ago. As OP has already said, there are pros to teaching and the relative security is one of them.

[boboroll]

@Hardbackwriter Good point. Plus I know the gov has mooted moving a load of civil service jobs outside of London. What is the general job security in the CS, as I have seen lots of FTCs?

[Meredusoleil]

OP, after the day I've had, I could have written your post almost verbatim. I too qualified in 2004!

Will be following this post with much interest and hope🤞

[EmmaStone]

@boboroll

Personally I think you will struggle to find a job that has the hours (in school), pension, holidays & salary that matches teaching. I think anything similar will require experience.

Yes, I was going to mention looking beyond the salary alone. I've recently been contacted by a recruitment consultant about a fairly specialised role (which I do now - not teaching, I work in a financial role), and when asked about my salary needs, I totalled up everything: base salary, pension contributions (no final salary pensions in the private sector), bonuses, medical insurance. When this was all added up, it added a significant amount to my salary.

Just something to think about - you're potentially giving up a very generous pension and holiday time, so build that value into your needs if leaving.

[sparklepink]

could you be a freelance supply teacher covering sick days etc? you've got the skills

[toomuchicecream]

Left my full time primary teaching post just over a year ago to freelance offering Primary maths support. No way would I go back, and it’s looking as if my part time hours will bring in more than the SLT salary I left.

But - I spent the last 5-10 years developing my specialism and building my relationship with local schools, I have all the uncertainty of being self employed and who knows what will happen when funding runs out for the maths hubs who provide most of my work? Lockdown was a bit hairy to start wirh, until I taught myself how to take my CPD online.

I absolutely love what I do now. As a teacher I could improve the outcomes of the 30 children in my class, as a maths lead it was the 250 children in my school. Now I influence the teaching thousands of children receive each year.

[WillSantaBeComingToTown]

@sparklepink

could you be a freelance supply teacher covering sick days etc? you've got the skills

Quiet hard to be a self employed supply, not impossible but hard

You can work directly for schools not through an agency but that isn't the same

Supply pay peanuts. £100? £120
No pension or holiday pay if self employed.

[ScrapThatThen]

I totally understand, the short term ism of current education sector (and NHS where I work) treating staff as if they were expendable rather than a huge asset of skill is just ridiculous.

[WillSantaBeComingToTown]

@Theforest

I would also check local government. If you are happy to stay in education related work then you can work for LEA.

They are all making VR and cutting
Only area not is SEND but a national review is pending