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If a meeting at 12.00 is moved forward 2 hours

177 replies

IliveonCoffee · 18/11/2020 21:55

What time is the meeting?

I saw this somewhere else. I've just asked my partner....I'm horrified --slightly dramatic- at his response!

What time do you think the meeting is?

OP posts:
PhilCornwall1 · 19/11/2020 05:28

@sophandbridge

2pm. 10am is moving it back in time.
Nope, it's a 10am meeting.
FourPlatinumRings · 19/11/2020 05:31

@CherryValanc

No, ignore time. The clocks going forward is just about the clocks. They move forward. Time is not moving forward- it's just the clocks. Focus on them and you won't get confused. Meetings are at points in time- when they move forward, they move relative to the time rather than the clock.

CherryValanc · 19/11/2020 08:46

So if you think clocks are separate from time, then your 'not difficult to understand' argument makes sense.

However, time is told up by clocks, You only have times like 10am, 12pm and 2 pm because of clocks. If you are talking about a time that is interpreted by a clock then it acts the same as clocks.

In winter the clocks move forward an hour, from 1am to 2 am. Not sure how you separate that from a meeting moving forward from 12pm to 2pm. Not sure how you separate time from clocks - that's what they tell.

Anyway, all this boils down to is the OP's wording wasn't unclear and her ignorance of it being ambiguous If I chairing a meeting and changed the time then state the time - not some give vague guide!

I mean if I ask you (today on the 19th) what date 'next Friday' is - what would you first think? 20th or 27th?

zigzagbetty · 19/11/2020 08:48

I thought 2 pm forward in time

FourPlatinumRings · 19/11/2020 09:19

I mean if I ask you (today on the 19th) what date 'next Friday' is - what would you first think? 20th or 27th?

27th. The 20th would be this Friday, by convention.

In winter the clocks move forward an hour, from 1am to 2 am. Not sure how you separate that from a meeting moving forward from 12pm to 2pm.

The clocks move forward/backwards. So, at 2 a.m., the clocks go backwards (spring forward, fall back) to 1 a.m. and it is now 1 a.m. regardless of what time it was an hour ago.

By comparison, the meeting is brought forward in time. This makes it earlier. In the same way that, if you push the Olympics back a year, they are now in 2021, not 2019. If we bring the 2024 Olympics forward a year, we have them in 2023. That's just the way time is thought of by convention- if you move something earlier, you bring it forwards. I suppose if you imagine yourself standing on a timeline that might make more sense- if events in the future are in front of you on your timeline and you move them earlier, they get closer to you- they've moved forwards, towards you. If you move them later, they move away from you- backwards.

sophandbridge · 19/11/2020 09:33

Reading this thread makes me think that, whatever our view, we've all got too much time on our hands Grin

HollyandIvyandallthingsYule · 19/11/2020 09:34

Grin Grin

PhilCornwall1 · 19/11/2020 10:20

I mean if I ask you (today on the 19th) what date 'next Friday' is - what would you first think? 20th or 27th?

Next Friday is the 27th, this Friday is the 20th

nosswith · 19/11/2020 10:33

I would have thought 10am, but no doubt if that happened, someone would ask for clarification. If there really is a need for a meeting (the person who said cancel had a point) then simple- 'new time is 10am' is better.

notsurewhattodo22 · 19/11/2020 12:04

I think 10am now. Moving it forward is bringing it nearer. Moving it back is pushing it further away.

LoseLooseLucy · 19/11/2020 12:06

Time has lost all meaning after this thread 😑

Cleanerdilemma · 19/11/2020 12:49

@LoseLooseLucy

Time has lost all meaning after this thread 😑
This exactly!!

Definitely 10am to me, am stunned at so many people thinking 2pm Shock

WitchesSpelleas · 19/11/2020 12:51

This is why it's a good idea to say 'the meeting has been moved to 10am'.

AldiAisleofCrap · 19/11/2020 13:28

I mean if I ask you (today on the 19th) what date 'next Friday' is - what would you first think? 20th or 27th?
The 20th as it’s the next Friday to exist , this Friday and next Friday are always the same date.

sausagedoglove · 19/11/2020 13:38

Definitely 10am. Didn't even give it another thought.

PhilCornwall1 · 19/11/2020 14:33

@AldiAisleofCrap

I mean if I ask you (today on the 19th) what date 'next Friday' is - what would you first think? 20th or 27th? The 20th as it’s the next Friday to exist , this Friday and next Friday are always the same date.
Really? It's the Friday of the next week, which is next week, not this week.
megletthesecond · 19/11/2020 14:37

10am.

jambeforeclottedcream · 19/11/2020 14:46

I was going to write yabu and my reasoning, as I did I realised you were right. Seeing it written on the pages made it clearer.

However, i am now over thinking it and now in a confused muddle about it

AllThoseDirtyWords · 19/11/2020 15:07

This is to do with the English language and with how you perceive time related to yourself. So no wrong or right answer!

see this on YouTube

CatRamsey · 19/11/2020 15:26

But when you put the clocks forward, they go forward an hour from 1am to 2am, so surely if you move a meeting forward it will go from 12pm to 2pm, in your example.

If you said bring forward/brought forward I'd say 10am though, as you're bringing it towards you.

Nyctophyllia · 19/11/2020 16:58

My favourite not making sense thing is the phrase " behind my back"
If you were behind someone's back you'd be in front of them

chomalungma · 19/11/2020 16:58

The 20th as it’s the next Friday to exist , this Friday and next Friday are always the same date

Next Friday is a week tomorrow.

But if you asked me last Saturday to meet me next Friday, then I would say tomorrow would be the date we meet.

So basically - always check the date

Cleanerdilemma · 19/11/2020 22:37

@Nyctophyllia

My favourite not making sense thing is the phrase " behind my back" If you were behind someone's back you'd be in front of them
No you wouldn’t, you’d be behind them!! If I look behind my back, that it where you would be. How can that be misleading??
FourPlatinumRings · 19/11/2020 22:41

@Nyctophyllia

My favourite not making sense thing is the phrase " behind my back" If you were behind someone's back you'd be in front of them
No, you wouldn't. Their back is just the part of their body you happen to be behind. You can also, as a child, be behind someone's knees, for example.

So, if I were to say, 'Stop talking about Susan behind her back', in my head I'm facing Susan, and the gossip is hiding behind Susan. Stating that the gossip is behind Susan's back helps show that Susan is unaware of the gossip's presence. If I just said, 'Behind Susan', Susan could be facing the gossip and would thus know about their duplicitous ways

IhateBoswell · 19/11/2020 22:44

Yeah I’m struggling to see how you’re in front of someone if you’re behind their back... 🤔