Baby been crying for 3 hours

[OhToBeASeahorse]

Any suggestions or virtual hugs desperately needed

Mine hated the car seat too there’s literally nothing worse than the feeling when baby screaming in the car and you want to be home that second it’s horrible totally sympathise

I’ve had to give up dairy egg and beef this time it took about 6 weeks to get it better and she’s a different baby now I kept a food diary and tried to see what I’d eaten on days she was the worst

I'm really not reluctant. I've literally said I've been told I cant get a doctors appt - DH is going to try again.

One of the first side effects listed on gaviscon is constipation. So that's why I think that.

She is utterly settled in the day. Last night she was pretty happy - just awake. That's why I'm struggling to put it down to reflux.

You can get an appt without ! We always have they put it in the mothers name
Don’t let them fob you off if you haven’t got a birth certificate i have 6 dc and all had appts in my name before registered the youngest is only 3 months so it’s still the case x

Oh gosh @OhToBeASeahorse this brings back memories! My DD started screaming at 5 weeks and wouldn't stop. Her skin also got so bad to the point it looked burnt. On the advice of a GP, I cut out dairy, and ranitidine was prescribed. They both made such a difference. I've heard you can't get ranitidine anymore, but a doctor should be able to prescribe an alternative. I'm due DC 2 in 8 weeks time and am bracing myself for the same thing all over again. Hope you can see a GP asap.

Have you given up soya as well? As both my cmpa DC have had issues with that.

So unfair that you have to have the added stress of stuff like that when they absolutely can and should give you an appt

I dont understand what difference a birth cert would.make.

But as I say - I just dont think she is unsettled enough for it to be reflux. She isnt unhappy on her back until she gets lonely. She just doesn't bloody fall asleep.

But I'll.be happy to talk to a GP. I'm.hoping if i cry he will give me omeprazole.(what isnbeing given instead of ranitidine)

Just read through this OP. So sorry you're having such a tough time.

Hopefully your DH will be able to press them for an appointment, that's absolutely ridiculous.

How old is your DS? I'd consider going back to the three child minder days if you can afford it. Just to give yourself some breathing space.

This will end though xx

Also her skin. Private midwife suggested it could be a milk reaction. My lovely childminder (obviously not a qualified healthcare practitioner) thought it was cradle cap.

I put some.breastmilk on it and its literally disappeared.

I haven't read the whole thread so apologies if these have already been suggested

I had this with my son.. he had colic and screamed all night every night for weeks

Try infacol before feeds

If you have a fast let down Express for a minute or 2 each side before feeding
I realised my letdown was too fast and consequently my son was gulping air whilst trying to keep up with milk spraying everywhere 🙄🤦‍♀️

Lots of tummy massage, and bath him upright as this really helps. Xx

@TensAndUnits

I’ve had 4 cmpa babies I think you need to cut it out of your diet for 2 weeks before it’s totally left your system so worth a try if you think it’s that A nuna leaf or mamaroo chair might help ? Baby massage may be soothing ?

Sorry you’re having such a bad time x

Actually it can take up to 6 weeks for symptoms to clear up completely (up to 3 weeks for all the cow's milk protein to get out of mum's system and the same for baby) but you would usually see improvements before that.

@OhToBeASeahorse

I dont understand what difference a birth cert would.make.

But as I say - I just dont think she is unsettled enough for it to be reflux. She isnt unhappy on her back until she gets lonely. She just doesn't bloody fall asleep.

But I'll.be happy to talk to a GP. I'm.hoping if i cry he will give me omeprazole.(what isnbeing given instead of ranitidine)

If you really don't think it's reflux why on earth would you ask for omeprazole? it's a reflux medication!

I get that you're desperate but it's not making a lot of sense.

If CMPA is the problem, going dairy free might resolve it without having to medicate.

Also, as a PP said, you might need to cut out soya too. I had to (for both babies). And a food/symptom diary is a good idea if you can be bothered!

What in saying is in my gut I don't think it's a medical issue but I'm happy to try and see if it makes a difference - I may be wrong! It's been suggested that im reluctant to take advice- so im going to try and see. I am nervous of giving gaviscon because I dont want to add issues and the TT lady said to avoid it like the plague. But clearly it works for some

DS used to cry constantly in the evenings only in DS case it was colic and once he could have gripe water he was fine he was also ebf keep going op your doing brill.

Honestly @OhToBeASeahorse she just sounds like a high needs baby that doesn’t have day and night sussed yet. It’s hell.

Mine was like this, there was nothing wrong. She was much better at 10 weeks, dreadful before that. I slept as much as possible in the day in fits and starts and watched Netflix all night with her attached to boob.
I appreciate logistically with a toddler that’s not possible (and why there is no second baby here).
You are doing fantastically and this won’t last forever.

What is with all the people harping on about formula though when BF is going so well! No wonder rates are so woefully low when people try to suggest formula as the cure all

I don’t think there’s any magic cure here, just time. You won’t die even though it feels like it. Just keep reaching out to people on here for emotional back up. You will survive this

@OhToBeASeahorse

What in saying is in my gut I don't think it's a medical issue but I'm happy to try and see if it makes a difference - I may be wrong! It's been suggested that im reluctant to take advice- so im going to try and see. I am nervous of giving gaviscon because I dont want to add issues and the TT lady said to avoid it like the plague. But clearly it works for some

Gaviscon is difficult to give to ebf babies (unless you are willing to pump and mix Gaviscon with expressed milk) and can cause constipation. It can also be helpful for reflux. But if the root cause of reflux is CMPA then it won't fix that, it only eases the symptom.

Most GPs will ask you to try Gaviscon before they are willing prescribe omeprazole, as it's a stronger medication (ours did).

If you think it's more likely to be CMPA and not reflux, I'd give it a few weeks of being dairy free before resorting to medication, personally. Otherwise you won't know what's helping, the medication or the dairy free diet.

Some useful links for you
www.allergyuk.org/information-and-advice/conditions-and-symptoms/469-cows-milk-allergy
dilanandme.com/confirm-cmpa/

@OhToBeASeahorse

Thanks everyone, I really.do appreciate every message.

I just seem to have got parenting wrong. It's such a rush. Feeding DD then slinging her up asap to try and get her to sleep. Everyone e else seems to have relaxing evenings watching tv while their baby naps in the moses basket.

I can't even get her to sleep by rocking her and then putting her in the sleepyhead. And my toddler just destroys everything.

I cant even have decent chocolate if I'm going dairy free.

Rant over.

I haven't read the whole thread, but I just had to reply to this.

You are not doing parenting wrong. You are giving your baby everythign she needs, and you are caring for her above and beyond.

parents who spend half the night soothing crying babies are the parenting greats. You can only look after the baby you have, not the invisible baby that might have been.

ds went through a crying phase at 6 weeks, a few days of hell. Take one day at a time, know that she is warm, fed , cuddled and loved and you can't do any more.

I feel you on the toddler thing OP. DS is a dream baby and even with that, toddler DD regularly dances on my last nerve at the moment!

@NameChange30 I think that's what I'll do. I'll see if I can chat to the GP tho