Baby been crying for 3 hours

[OhToBeASeahorse]

Any suggestions or virtual hugs desperately needed

I've just found your thread, and so sorry to hear you are going through this. Much solidarity from me! I survived (by the skin of my teeth),very similar with my first. He sounds very similar in that he was fine during the day but would scream all night.

My evening routine was eventually feed to sleep in the sling at about 6ish. Keep him in the sling and do not sit down for a while (i ate dinner standing up!) I could transfer him to the basket at about 9pm then crash myself. I would highly recommend learning to feed in a sling. A stretchy wrap worked best for us. Handy for being able to feed hands free too and deal with the toddler.

All levelled out for us once I cut out dairy, so hopefully that will happen for you too.

Huge respect for you for going through this with antoddlwr. You are a superwoman.

I can just about feed in the sling (I bought a baby K'tan for this purpose).

Holy fuck I'm tired. I've literally spent 5 hours rocking her since 9pm last night and she will be in the sling all day. Who knows when I shower etc

Wishing you strength OP, this is torrid for you.

Colief helped my buddy's little girl settle. You can buy it from Boots and if it persists, get on scrip.

I wish you some peace today, truly x

For me the absolute best thing about having a second child was I knew that I was not an awful person if I hated the early baby bit.

And boy did I hate it. This brings back unpleasant memories.

Hugs to you xxxx

Did you speak to the GP? My youngest had dreadful reflux and would scream and scream especially if I put him down. My GP was so helpful, she said it wasn’t normal for the baby to scream like that and she prescribed medication. We ended up on ranitidine and it was a life saver. I also bought anti reflux wedge for under the pram, Moses basket and cot. I would be pushing to speak to the GP. Also check to ensure a tongue tie hasn’t been missed either. Good luck with it all as I remember crying with desperation

Probably going to get flamed for this but if you’ve done all the checks and cuddles aren’t helping, put her down in the crib and walk away. Breathe, have some water and a snack and lie down. At this point your presence isn’t helping - she’s just tiny still and got sensory overload. You’re a good mum and you’ve got this!

Hmmm, so not really crying - but presumably would have done so if you had put her down. Wondering what would happen if you fed her in side lying? Would she just stay awake on the boob do you think? Just trying to think of your poor arms and back but if you've tried that and it didn't help that is really odd. Would she be happy just staying in side lying with your boob in her mouth if she's happy as long as she's snuggling you (possibly with some bum pats, white noise etc to replace the rocking) even if she isn't asleep? I'm just thinking if there's any way you can get some sleep, even if she doesn't! Ultimately if she is happy then it doesn't really matter if she's not sleeping- except that it is causing you pain/lack of sleep. I'm wondering if there is a way of making both of you more comfortable and even potentially you sleeping even if she doesn't? Or possibly if only rocking will do, one of those all singing all dancing self rocking chairs?

I know you said she's not been keen on the dummy - have you tried again recently? My little one wasn't keen to start with and I had to basically hold it in for her - she wasn't resisting it but just didn't really know how to keep it in her mouth to start with. It's another controversial thing but boy did it help mine sleep.

Tonight I would try again with the sling in the evening and then either feed in side lying or wait a good 15/20 mins before attempting to put her down post feed? My heart is sore for you - I remember being so tired I was on the verge of fainting. You poor love - however shitty you feel it's ok to feel it and it doesn't make you a bad mum, you are an AMAZING mum for being up all night comforting your tiny baby and then being with your toddler all day.

Do you have much in the way of support at home?

I used to do the hoovering (well the same patch of hallway) for about 30 minutes. I think my neighbours must have thought I was cracking up but I figured they would prefer that noise to the noise of a screaming baby.
The combination of movement, deafening white noise and the tight stretchy sling seemed to get her in to a deep enough sleep that I could then untie the sling and get her in bed.
Again just another suggestion and it sounds like you are doing brilliantly- it is survival, especially adding a toddler in to the mix.

Oh and getting DH to do sling walks outside or drives. I just needed an hours break from the screaming.

It's just so hard when they do this, so hard! Have you given anymore thought to upping the toddler's childminder days?

If she's going back to sleep in the morning then can you get DH to get up with the toddler and take them to the childminder on those days whilst you lie in with baby? I did that quite a bit with DS2, still felt like shit but it helped a bit.

Both of mine have been shit sleepers and to an extent I found I coped better when I accepted they were shit sleepers and just found ways to try and manage it rather than change what they were doing as I could never manage it and the constant failure to get them to things differently just made me feel more shit.

Do you have an electric swing seat? Will she sleep in that whilst you nap on the sofa in the same room?

It won't be like this forever.

I’m no expert, but can suggest things that helped a bit with mine. DS1 screamed for 4-5 hours a night from 2-5 months. An earlier bedtime ( extended his last nap at 6) and feeding him an hour or 2 later without him waking seemed to help (or maybe he just grew out of it)
DD2 didn’t sleep longer than 15 minutes at night until her first birthday (like I said, I’m definitely no expert!). She’d wake and cry, and only wanted me. Luckily she settled again easily so I put a blow up air bed by her cot to save on time returning to bed and mastered the power nap!
DS3 I struck lucky.
DS4 was impossible to put down without waking until I got him a rocking crib. Then it was just a case of keeping a hand on his front while it gently rocked for a few minutes. If he started to wake, the crib rocked and helped resettle him.

We've all been there op, hugs to you

I totally agree, if the little one has been screaming all night despite everything you try then it definitely needs checking out. I'm just intrigued by the recent updates that indicate she's not screaming but just awake, as long as she is being held. If I have misunderstood the situation and she has been crying the whole time then yes I would definitely suggest the doctor at this point. Either way you haven't had anything approaching a decent sleep in forever and you have my solidarity!

If she is awake for hours then the tears start and it makes no difference if she is held or not. But other times - like this morning- she is just inexplicably awake.

I've completely fucked up this morning, visiting a NT place with a friend, disturbed the baby getting her into her car seat so she of course then cried for the whole journey.

I dont want to try formula whilst we are investigating CMPA. And gaviscon will just block her up.

I'm sure.im.being utterly over sensitive but please dont assume I just wouldnt think to seek.help. I did.months of gp appointments with my.son, got to a consultant who said he was completely healthy and green nappies are normal. I'm.just trying to protect my mental health. I've already spent 200 quid this week on a private TT assessment.

I'm.doing my best.

Yes you are doing your best and you're doing a great job even though it might not feel like it

FWIW my son (who had CMPA and silent reflux) absolutely hated the infant car seat and would scream in it. I know some babies just hate the car anyway but in our case I think it was due to the reflux.

She was fine in it til last week.

I dont know what has happened
.

My DD reflux didnt start until she was 5-6 weeks old...

I’ve had 4 cmpa babies I think you need to cut it out of your diet for 2 weeks before it’s totally left your system so worth a try if you think it’s that
A nuna leaf or mamaroo chair might help ?
Baby massage may be soothing ?

Sorry you’re having such a bad time x

DH is going to go and argue with the dr and see if we can get an appt without a birth certificate.

I gave up dairy last saturday - I'll give it 3 weeks