ADs take the National Express when their lives' in a mess, it will make them smile

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🎤On the National Express
There’s a jolly hostess
Giving porridge free
She’ll provide you with shots
amaretto or what
You like to seeeeee...

Going out was in style
Now we’re stuck in this aisle
Dream of being free
And it’s hard to get by
When your arse is the size
Of the furlough feeeeeee🎤

Bah ba ba la
Bah ba ba la

Tomorrow belongs to meee...

Welcome to the 17:38 to freedom, stopping at virtual hugs, critical discourse, and random tangents along the way. ETA unknown...

regardless of what your views on the NHS staff, or indeed the vaccine itself.... anyone noticed how they "flocked" to the anti-vax group People only ever flock to the BAD places (see also, beaches and The Range)

I'm pleased the vaccine new is looking good - a second one looks like it might have 95% effectiveness.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908

I'd also like my high risk older relatives to get vaccines - if they want them - but I'd like to wait few years see if there are any advserse side affects.

I once got given a MMR spiel from a GP when I was asking a very specific question about timing as child was ill hence us being there - and it was due the next week. On and on about how good it was and how anyone not getting it was stupid. I kept trying to interupt and got talked over - in end I just waited it out - said I couldn't image why they thought I wouldn't be doing one child when I had the others and could it be done next week on this child.

I think some people get very entrenched views - assuming if you have an issue with one vaccine or even just questions you must be an anti vaxxer.

People only ever flock to the BAD places (see also, beaches and The Range)

Or shops even in non covid times - I think it carries the implication of numbers being wrong rather than the place or perhaps bird brain or flock of sheep following everyone else and not thinking.

But yes flocking is bad decending also - they decended upon the beaches rather than went, vsisited traveled to.

Slight tangential but I love those dramatic words you only ever see in tabloids.

Flocked
Rammed
Tot (to be preceded with either 'miracle' or 'tragic')
Romp
Love-rat
SLAMMED (as euphemism for 'criticised')
Mercy dash (usually to hospital)
And of course BOFFINS

We seem to have lost our ability to differentiate stern anti vaxx and ‘wishing to be fully informed and capable of critical thought’

I despise the term anti vaxx as it implies tin foil hats.

I feel like I haven't flocked anywhere in ages. Sad times. It was pretty busy in Aldi yesterday though... It was practically rammed, maybe even verging on carnage. Dementors would have despaired I tell you!

Everyone else was just merrily cracking on.

At DS's ASD diagnosis appointment a year ago, the consultant talked a bit about Wakefield, MMR and autism, she'd gathered from the various paperwork from me including the highly detailed mind map that went to the GP 15m earlier to initate it and from talking to me that I was decently clued up on what autism is and what (doesn't) cause it. I suspect from the tone of the conversation that a lot don't realise that Wakefield's "research" was thouroughly debunked.* That man did so much harm to the reputations of well-established vaccination programs.

But that doesn't mean it's wrong to be critical and cautious about new developments for an illness we've known of for less than a year.

• At this point in the discussion, DS assisted with the diagnosis by piping up randomly "I'd take that report, make it into a paper aeroplane and fly it into the bin!"

We FLOCKED to the beach for a walk this morning. Well, DM and I did. DD refused to walk/go in the buggy/be carried so we spent more time negotiating between those options than actually walking. Lots of people giving the sympathy-solidarity smile, and lots of new mums with newborns looking a bit wide eyed at me.

that a lot don't realise that Wakefield's "research" was thouroughly debunked. That man did so much harm to the reputations of well-established vaccination programs.

Very true.

There's been measles outbreak in South wales since we've moved here - apparently local paper was very pro Wakefield and they still haven't made up the ground - (though it wasn't here I had the spiel it was in midlands when the kds were small).

Measles leaves you vulnerable to a host of deadly diseases
it kills or causes brain damage in two or three out of every 1000 cases, even in wealthy countries. Here’s another reason it isn’t trivial: having measles destroys your immunity to other diseases – and some of those are far more deadly.

Measles is a particularly nasty one to get.

My dad had measles when he was young. He was really, really ill with it for months - they weren't sure if he would survive (he did with no lasting issues, thankfully). And the R rate that everyone is an expert on is something ridiculous like 19 I think I read?

DD had her MMR during lockdown and the surgery wouldn't stop telling us how important it was, even though we had phoned them proactively to book the appointment!

@NastyBlouse what a wonderful selection of words. I am now thinking of 'flocking boffins' and 'romping tots'.
The one that always set my teeth on edge was 'panties'. Only journalists seemed to use this word for knickers (was especially popular in the news of the world). It managed to be both coy and seedy at the same time.

I had really bad measles as a child. I spent ages in a darkened room and my ears haven't been the same since. However, I am of the generation who had it all - measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, scarlet fever, glandular fever, impetigo, whooping cough. Add to that terrible tonsils (which were removed at 7 due to recurring tonsilitis) I was hardly ever at school!

Just dropping in for a bit calm and normality - hope you don't mind. I find myself waking up every morning still with a feeling of dread in my stomach about how the world has gone to hell in a handcart. People are really shouting for schools to be shut at the moment - I can't cope with it.

And yes, another non-anti-vaxxer-but-want-a-bit-more-info-before-me-and-mine-are-jabbed. They've been vaxxed for everything else in their childhood so I am definitely not anti-vax but nonetheless, I don't feel inclined to rush into this one.

Another year down at school today - not one of mine thank the Lord -but it does mean DH looses an afternoon's work this week.

@LivinLaVidaLoki, I think I can explain about your lack of 'accident' calls - they're too busy calling me. I've run out of new and entertaining ways of getting rid of them and just hang up now.

PS. I hope your day went better than you anticipated.

Another problem with measles is that it's very easy to catch. Apparently it hardly needs any viral load to make you ill, so you get it with minimal exposure.

@amicissimma have you tried the “I’m dead so you must be a medium” approach? You can have lots of fun asking them to let Auntie Ethel know that the money is under the floorboards in the corner of the kitchen...

I suppose I mean infectious dose rather than viral load. Sorry.

@DrDiva. Yes, that's my go-to one but I think they've got wise to it and just steam on with the spiel. Talking over me, I might add. Rude.

[quote amicissimma]@LivinLaVidaLoki, I think I can explain about your lack of 'accident' calls - they're too busy calling me. I've run out of new and entertaining ways of getting rid of them and just hang up now.[/quote]
DH gives the phone to one of the children or puts it next to the radio. I just say "NO" and hang up!

And as discussed yesterday about people resurrecting threads to mock those who weren't already stressing about a 2nd wave in summer... I feel like resurecting the 'all vaccines will fail' threads now there are 2 that look like they will be 90% effective or more. Although I do agree I wouldn't rush out and get it for myself if I didn't have to, I do home my grandma gets it soon, at 90 her risk of covid is a lot higher than any long term vaccine consequences. Same for FIL who is medically vulnerable

Oooh it is kicking off on my local FB. A dementor in chief has set up a CCTV camera on her house, but facing away from the property and down the street. She has been reporting any and all attempts at happiness since spring, when they were doing socially distanced neighbourly stuff outside. Faked a letter from the council telling the organiser to stop having fun, and has stepped up to calling the police recently. The CCTV is a new escalation though!

CCTV outside your property boundaries means you come under data protection laws.

ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/domestic-cctv-systems-guidance-for-people-using-cctv/

Could be a bit of a pain to deal with.

@SirSamuelVimes I hope she has a sign up and is complying with the laws and data protection if she’s filming people in the street?!

Apparently no-one would have to worry if they weren't doing anything wrong! I am at the other end of the estate so I'm just watching from the sidelines like this