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Am I causing this or is this him?! Head spinning

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Titleday · 08/11/2020 12:34

Met someone about 4 months ago, after the first date he was very upfront and said he didn’t want us to date others while we see how things go with us. Fine, I actually liked this and i agreed to it. Straightforward.

He lives an hour from me in the village he grew up in, in a house opposite his parents. It’s a nice road, nice house, he has a good job and a lot of money (relevant). I recently learned that he ended up moving out of a friend’s flat in his first year of uni because he wanted to move back home and commute in. Nothing particularly unusual about this I don’t think but he seems absolutely welded to where he lives and always has done. He’s close to his family but not in a strange way.

Getting to the issue...he is quite intense. For example if I suggest missing a phone call one night (because I’m tired and it’s nice to speak to him when I have more to say!), he doesn’t respond well and it clearly bothers him. He will push for a call and usually I just do it, other times I stand my ground and we say goodnight and I find in the morning he has sent another 5 or 6 messages (all nice stuff), after I have gone to sleep.

If I don’t answer a text for a while he will ask if I am ok - I would do this too I guess if I’m used to regular texting. But sometimes he has been known to send 10 messages or more when I’ve not even had chance to read or reply to the first one! I’ve mentioned this to him, he says he understands but literally nothing changes.

We’ve had the odd meal where I’ve been on my phone while he’s been in the bathroom...I’m just browsing while on my own at the table. He comes back and he’s in a strange mood, find out in the car he thinks I’m messaging other men. To be fair I still have a dating app on my phone at this point, only because I hadn’t deleted it! I hadn’t even thought about it as I don’t use it, I explained this to him and even offered to show him the messages so he could see the last time I had used it. He was in a weird mood and said I was messing him around.

Another time after we had been to the cinema we didn’t know the way back so I got it up on google maps and the road wasn’t clear, he got very cross suddenly and I was taken aback.

He’s dropped me at my house a few times and will often comment that the area ‘looks like a council estate compared to where he lives.’ It doesn’t, it’s just a city not a village and I worked hard for my house here on a nice road.

When I suggested we slow things as a result of the above(cut down calls and meet less) , his response went from one moment saying he absolutely didn’t want that, to saying if I did that then he would be gone and his feelings would disappear. It was like we could actually talk about it properly. I confided in him about my tricky relationship with my mum and he has used this in an argument with me, randomly saying ‘oh and I’m sick of hearing about your weird relationship with your mum.’ I’ve mentioned it twice maybe... these things are only said when he’s angry or upset that I’ve suggested we take a step back and cool down, the rest of the time he’s lovely. He claims that me suggesting we take a step back is psychotic and weird and he can’t live like that. All I wanted was to have more space and feel like I miss him, no matter how I try and explain this he goes from very upset and hurt to lashing out. Even if we skipped one phone call I think it would help! I’m not asking for a massive cut down.

Other than this he is totally the ideal man in the sense that we get on and laugh together, want similar things. Is this me? I am being difficult here and harsh to him and causing him to behave like this?

OP posts:
AmaryllisNightAndDay · 08/11/2020 16:27

as it’s obvious he likes me and cares for me and that’s why he is doing it

Yes it is obvious he likes you, and maybe he cares about you, but that is not why he is doing it. He is doing it because he wants to control you. Most normal people don't try to control the people they like and care about. Maybe that seems normal to you? But it isn't. Does your mother do that?

it just feels like he doesn’t trust me and we can’t be content and happy.

Your feeling is spot on. He will never trust you becaue he doesn't do trust. He will demand more and more proof from you.

you can never be sure if it’s not you can you!! At least I couldn’t. I’m not perfect by any stretch.

You don't have to be perfect to recognise and dump a controlling man. You seem to be very willing to take his accusations seriously. That is worrying.

said that I had used him to pay for a weekend away (we had both wanted to go away and had offered to pay). He did end up paying for the entire thing but to bring it up when I say I’m going to go home afterwards...I don’t know, maybe that was cruel of me or insensitive.

Which part of "he is generous and insists on paying for things so that he can accuse you of using him and grabbing his money when you don't do what he wants" isn't obvious to you? Give him his money back and run. Or don't give him his money back and run.

Either way, run.

Yes it is very sad that what looked like a nice relationship didn't work out. It's natural to feel sad. But it was only 4 months and then you realised something wasn't right. And without him taking all your attention and bringing you down you have the space to find a new and better relationship with a better man. It could be worse - you could waste years of your life on him and allow him to damage you.

Therealjudgejudy · 08/11/2020 16:29

If this is your ideal man than you need to really work on your self-esteem...after you finish with him of course.

So, so many red flags. Please leave him and believe that you deserve more.

furrycat1978 · 08/11/2020 16:56

You will find better, OP. Take some time out to look at the Freedom Programme before you look at relationships: it’ll help a lot to nip things in the bud and before your self esteem suffers any more. 💐💐💐

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Bananalanacake · 08/11/2020 17:08

I say to them early on in the relationship that I only want to see them once or twice a week, and have one or two phone calls in the week. If they don't like it they can find someone else to control. I do not give up all my free time for a fucking man.

DK123 · 08/11/2020 17:09

OP I'm so sorry, this is a horrible situation.

Please don't let this go any further. He's a piece of work and an abuser being announced with a big fanfare, red bunting everywhere and party poppers all around.

He's controlling, manipulative, spiteful and disrespectful. The "nice" things he's doing for you will drop off within a few months (if that) and all you'll be left with is the moods, the cheating/using him accusations etc and you'll find yourself miserable, tiptoeing around him, being a complete mouse to try and prevent him kicking off about the next thing.

I've been there. I wish to god that I'd known about MNet and posted just after I met him as I was so confused, I'd never been love bombed by an abuser before. I know for sure people would have told me to run a mile.

It's taken me 3 years to get over it and I'm still shaken. Run a mile before it has a really bad effect on you.

whataballbag · 08/11/2020 17:12

He sounds like a real bellend

CormoranStrikesANoteofDoom · 08/11/2020 17:14

Run run run

LaVitaPuoEsserePiuBella · 08/11/2020 17:15

@Titleday

He is so nice to me in general, dedicated caring and loving. It’s so frustrating as i just want to settle down but I find his behaviour so unattractive and hurtful.
Please DON'T settle down with him. He sounds horrible.
Valkadin · 08/11/2020 17:19

The man you are dating is awful and he is very clever. What he is already doing to your mind will last longer than any bruise. People understand physical violence more easily than what he is doing to you. Many a respectable and admired man is a brute underneath. He hides it well to the outside world.

rainbowlou · 08/11/2020 17:25

I’m sorry you’ve been treated like this by him.
I’ve been there and could have written your posts myself!
His dedication and caring will gradually become controlling and possessive..he will do it so manipulatively you’ll barely notice.
You deserve so much better

Joeblack066 · 08/11/2020 17:31

@Titleday

Met someone about 4 months ago, after the first date he was very upfront and said he didn’t want us to date others while we see how things go with us. Fine, I actually liked this and i agreed to it. Straightforward.

He lives an hour from me in the village he grew up in, in a house opposite his parents. It’s a nice road, nice house, he has a good job and a lot of money (relevant). I recently learned that he ended up moving out of a friend’s flat in his first year of uni because he wanted to move back home and commute in. Nothing particularly unusual about this I don’t think but he seems absolutely welded to where he lives and always has done. He’s close to his family but not in a strange way.

Getting to the issue...he is quite intense. For example if I suggest missing a phone call one night (because I’m tired and it’s nice to speak to him when I have more to say!), he doesn’t respond well and it clearly bothers him. He will push for a call and usually I just do it, other times I stand my ground and we say goodnight and I find in the morning he has sent another 5 or 6 messages (all nice stuff), after I have gone to sleep.

If I don’t answer a text for a while he will ask if I am ok - I would do this too I guess if I’m used to regular texting. But sometimes he has been known to send 10 messages or more when I’ve not even had chance to read or reply to the first one! I’ve mentioned this to him, he says he understands but literally nothing changes.

We’ve had the odd meal where I’ve been on my phone while he’s been in the bathroom...I’m just browsing while on my own at the table. He comes back and he’s in a strange mood, find out in the car he thinks I’m messaging other men. To be fair I still have a dating app on my phone at this point, only because I hadn’t deleted it! I hadn’t even thought about it as I don’t use it, I explained this to him and even offered to show him the messages so he could see the last time I had used it. He was in a weird mood and said I was messing him around.

Another time after we had been to the cinema we didn’t know the way back so I got it up on google maps and the road wasn’t clear, he got very cross suddenly and I was taken aback.

He’s dropped me at my house a few times and will often comment that the area ‘looks like a council estate compared to where he lives.’ It doesn’t, it’s just a city not a village and I worked hard for my house here on a nice road.

When I suggested we slow things as a result of the above(cut down calls and meet less) , his response went from one moment saying he absolutely didn’t want that, to saying if I did that then he would be gone and his feelings would disappear. It was like we could actually talk about it properly. I confided in him about my tricky relationship with my mum and he has used this in an argument with me, randomly saying ‘oh and I’m sick of hearing about your weird relationship with your mum.’ I’ve mentioned it twice maybe... these things are only said when he’s angry or upset that I’ve suggested we take a step back and cool down, the rest of the time he’s lovely. He claims that me suggesting we take a step back is psychotic and weird and he can’t live like that. All I wanted was to have more space and feel like I miss him, no matter how I try and explain this he goes from very upset and hurt to lashing out. Even if we skipped one phone call I think it would help! I’m not asking for a massive cut down.

Other than this he is totally the ideal man in the sense that we get on and laugh together, want similar things. Is this me? I am being difficult here and harsh to him and causing him to behave like this?

Other than all of these bad things he’s the ideal man Really? He’s a controlling bastard is what he is. Run.
sociallydistained · 08/11/2020 17:37

Op, this is so so sad but you clearly sense warning signs hence why you wrote this post. Please do not let this go any further, he is is going to ruin your life.

Just imagine a few months down the line when you want to go and spend the weekend with your friends but he wants to see you that weekend. How well do you think that's going to go down? I can already tell.

BurtonHouse · 08/11/2020 17:56

If you've been single for a while I can understand that you don't want to be lonely.
But this man is very dangerous.
Would you choose to share your home with a rabid dog who will tear you apart if you make a move it doesn't like or would you rather be safe?
Don't hesitate a moment longer, get rid.

BuffaloMozzerella · 08/11/2020 18:38

You don't need to prove your goodness or trustworthiness to this man OP.

Ot might not feel like it right now, but saying no to the bad ones makes it more likely you will meet a good one.

TurquoiseDragon · 08/11/2020 18:39

@Titleday

He is so nice to me in general, dedicated caring and loving. It’s so frustrating as i just want to settle down but I find his behaviour so unattractive and hurtful.
OP, abusers are nice some of the time. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to snare their victims.

Please LTB, this man is dangerous.

FeathersOarBlades · 08/11/2020 18:43

Jesus OP he sounds unhinged. Do you even need to ask MN for opinions? Concerning that you cannot see this Confused

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 08/11/2020 18:47

Jesus Christ OP. Here, as you can't see them very well.

Am I causing this or is this him?! Head spinning
Sewrainbow · 08/11/2020 18:57

Call it a day NOW! As others said it won't get any better!

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