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Am I causing this or is this him?! Head spinning

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Titleday · 08/11/2020 12:34

Met someone about 4 months ago, after the first date he was very upfront and said he didn’t want us to date others while we see how things go with us. Fine, I actually liked this and i agreed to it. Straightforward.

He lives an hour from me in the village he grew up in, in a house opposite his parents. It’s a nice road, nice house, he has a good job and a lot of money (relevant). I recently learned that he ended up moving out of a friend’s flat in his first year of uni because he wanted to move back home and commute in. Nothing particularly unusual about this I don’t think but he seems absolutely welded to where he lives and always has done. He’s close to his family but not in a strange way.

Getting to the issue...he is quite intense. For example if I suggest missing a phone call one night (because I’m tired and it’s nice to speak to him when I have more to say!), he doesn’t respond well and it clearly bothers him. He will push for a call and usually I just do it, other times I stand my ground and we say goodnight and I find in the morning he has sent another 5 or 6 messages (all nice stuff), after I have gone to sleep.

If I don’t answer a text for a while he will ask if I am ok - I would do this too I guess if I’m used to regular texting. But sometimes he has been known to send 10 messages or more when I’ve not even had chance to read or reply to the first one! I’ve mentioned this to him, he says he understands but literally nothing changes.

We’ve had the odd meal where I’ve been on my phone while he’s been in the bathroom...I’m just browsing while on my own at the table. He comes back and he’s in a strange mood, find out in the car he thinks I’m messaging other men. To be fair I still have a dating app on my phone at this point, only because I hadn’t deleted it! I hadn’t even thought about it as I don’t use it, I explained this to him and even offered to show him the messages so he could see the last time I had used it. He was in a weird mood and said I was messing him around.

Another time after we had been to the cinema we didn’t know the way back so I got it up on google maps and the road wasn’t clear, he got very cross suddenly and I was taken aback.

He’s dropped me at my house a few times and will often comment that the area ‘looks like a council estate compared to where he lives.’ It doesn’t, it’s just a city not a village and I worked hard for my house here on a nice road.

When I suggested we slow things as a result of the above(cut down calls and meet less) , his response went from one moment saying he absolutely didn’t want that, to saying if I did that then he would be gone and his feelings would disappear. It was like we could actually talk about it properly. I confided in him about my tricky relationship with my mum and he has used this in an argument with me, randomly saying ‘oh and I’m sick of hearing about your weird relationship with your mum.’ I’ve mentioned it twice maybe... these things are only said when he’s angry or upset that I’ve suggested we take a step back and cool down, the rest of the time he’s lovely. He claims that me suggesting we take a step back is psychotic and weird and he can’t live like that. All I wanted was to have more space and feel like I miss him, no matter how I try and explain this he goes from very upset and hurt to lashing out. Even if we skipped one phone call I think it would help! I’m not asking for a massive cut down.

Other than this he is totally the ideal man in the sense that we get on and laugh together, want similar things. Is this me? I am being difficult here and harsh to him and causing him to behave like this?

OP posts:
SmileyClare · 08/11/2020 13:07

Demanding of your time/ repeatedly texting despite you asking him not to= controlling

Belittling you and where you live/dismissive of your comments about your mother = emotionally abusive

Accusations of you speaking to other men = possessive

"Weird moods" sulking = manipulative

Losing his temper over trivial matters = aggressive

Summary = a bad apple.

Fouroclockonamarblemorning · 08/11/2020 13:07

He doesn’t sound in any way an ideal man. I can’t understand why anyone would put up with this shit four months into a relationship (or indeed at all). He’s clearly a dv merchant. I would run for the hills.

somelemons · 08/11/2020 13:09

He comes back and he's in a strange mood, find out in the car he thinks I'm messaging other men

If you only need one reason to end the relationship, this is it. He's controlling, possessive and clearly has issues with jealousy.

Dump him.

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SocialBees · 08/11/2020 13:11

He called you psychotic when you suggested taking a step back? Accused you of messaging other men when you were looking on your phone while he was in the bathroom? Wont let you have a night off from a phone call? He is not a good man OP.

ElspethFlashman · 08/11/2020 13:12

He is so nice to me in general

No he's not. He's actually low-key unpleasant to you on a very regular basis. And occasionally blatantly unpleasant.

It is deeply concerning that you think this is "an ideal man".

He's actually not someone most women would tolerate for one month, let alone 4.

And his family? You don't know what goes on behind closed doors. You don't know the simmering undercurrent. Not after only 4 months. So forget about them. They mean nothing.

Aquamarine1029 · 08/11/2020 13:13

Do yourself the biggest favour of your life and end it right now. Send him a text saying it's not working for you and then block. Get rid of this awful man.

FeminismIsForALLWomen · 08/11/2020 13:16

It's not you, it's very much him. There are so many red flags here- temper tantrums, accusations, gaslighting, emotional blackmail, not taking no for an answer and that's just off the top of my head!

His behaviour is already making you doubt yourself even though you know the problem is him. You deserve so much more Flowers

IJustWantSomeBees · 08/11/2020 13:16

RUN!

LaBodDelMed · 08/11/2020 13:16

It’s not you, it’s definitely him. Control freak. It’ll only get worse.

LatteLover12 · 08/11/2020 13:18

Jeeez OP, how many red flags do you need?

He sounds like a controlling nightmare & he'll only get worse as your relationship develops.

RUN

Crinkle77 · 08/11/2020 13:19

There's red flags all over the place here and the hallmarks of the start of an abusive relationship.

Tunnocksmallow · 08/11/2020 13:20

Run, run like the wind!

CurryForever · 08/11/2020 13:20

That all made me shudder. He sounds exactly like my ex-husband. That's how he was at the beginning and I kidded myself that 'my love would make him feel secure, and stop that behaviour' Confused

Surprise surprise, it made no difference. He got worse and worse and by the time we finally split, I was a shadow of my former self and have been left with an inability to trust my own thoughts, or stand up for myself.
Please OP. Stop this relationship now. Please.

Honeyroar · 08/11/2020 13:21

So he is the perfect man as long as you do everything his way, answer every text/call immediately in a sunny, chatty way, never look at your phone, See him and speak to him as often as he requires, whether you’re tired or not, never talk about your mum or other problems... All these things you have to do so early in the relationship to keep him calm and happy! You’ve only been together a matter of weeks. It really shouldn’t be like this. You know it. Your altar bells are ringing.

Honeyroar · 08/11/2020 13:22

Alarm bells not alter belles!!

MiddleClassProblem · 08/11/2020 13:22

Don’t date an abusive guy because your don’t want to go back to the drawing board.

He is already showing he will be financially controlling, extremely jealous and high maintenance.

FWIW, my dad was physically abusive to me and my brother didn’t know despite living in the same house. Yes, it’s very possible his family don’t see that side of him, make excuse/DJ t recognise the behaviour or are just the same as him. Plenty of people don’t show that side to anyone but their partner/family.

imjustwingingitdontchaknow · 08/11/2020 13:23

Everybody above is right OP, you need to end this relationship.

I have an ex who started out EXACTLY like this, even down to the using my difficult relationship with my mother against me.

This is the beginning of coercive control and he's not even being discrete about it.

In my case my 'one of these' ended up in prison.

They don't need to be physically abusive to destroy you, but they will often end up doing that too.

Please end things. You will regret it if you don't.

Takingontheundead · 08/11/2020 13:23

RunRunRunRun.

You'll be living in his house were his mum can keep an eye on you when he's at work, no friends or freedom before you know it. Creepy and controlling. He's already showed you he cannot be trusted to be confided in either- where on earth are you reading this man as 'ideal'!?

Alonelonelyloner · 08/11/2020 13:25

For the love of all that is good, cut this dude off now.
He has shown you what he is.
The people here have highlighted how wrongly he is behaving (and I've been there too and add my voice to these).
It makes no difference how 'normal' his family is. Any family can have a bad apple.
Get rid.

CodenameVillanelle · 08/11/2020 13:26

He's your domestic abuser in waiting. Run a mile! Really, really fast

PickleWithEverything · 08/11/2020 13:30

Nope he's a wrong 'un. Walk away, don't turn back

Coyoacan · 08/11/2020 13:32

The one that particularly stood out to me was the assumption that you message other men as soon as he is out of the room. I have only ever encountered that level of jealous in paranoid cokeheads.

This man will make your life hell if you stick with him OP.

2bazookas · 08/11/2020 13:32

Run, run, run.
That is very abnormal behaviour.

2bazookas · 08/11/2020 13:40

@Titleday

How does this sit with the fact his family - parents, three siblings - are all happily married? They all have close relationships and are pleasant and nice. This is partly what makes me wonder if it is me!
Is that what he tells you about his family? You already know his judgement about YOU is deeply flawed.

You barely know him, so you can't possibly know what his family's marriages and realtion ships are really like.

At least one member of that family is mentally unstable he can't conduct an adult relationship with you, and as soon as he left home he was so needy he had to move back to live beside his mother.

Kernowgal · 08/11/2020 13:40

@CurryForever

That all made me shudder. He sounds exactly like my ex-husband. That's how he was at the beginning and I kidded myself that 'my love would make him feel secure, and stop that behaviour' Confused

Surprise surprise, it made no difference. He got worse and worse and by the time we finally split, I was a shadow of my former self and have been left with an inability to trust my own thoughts, or stand up for myself.
Please OP. Stop this relationship now. Please.

This, but replace ex-husband with ex-partner.

Run, OP, and don't look back. Seriously. This will only get worse. Nothing you do will ever be good enough and you will end up questioning yourself constantly and walking on eggshells. Honestly, I'd choose being single forever over being treated like this.