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Am I causing this or is this him?! Head spinning

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Titleday · 08/11/2020 12:34

Met someone about 4 months ago, after the first date he was very upfront and said he didn’t want us to date others while we see how things go with us. Fine, I actually liked this and i agreed to it. Straightforward.

He lives an hour from me in the village he grew up in, in a house opposite his parents. It’s a nice road, nice house, he has a good job and a lot of money (relevant). I recently learned that he ended up moving out of a friend’s flat in his first year of uni because he wanted to move back home and commute in. Nothing particularly unusual about this I don’t think but he seems absolutely welded to where he lives and always has done. He’s close to his family but not in a strange way.

Getting to the issue...he is quite intense. For example if I suggest missing a phone call one night (because I’m tired and it’s nice to speak to him when I have more to say!), he doesn’t respond well and it clearly bothers him. He will push for a call and usually I just do it, other times I stand my ground and we say goodnight and I find in the morning he has sent another 5 or 6 messages (all nice stuff), after I have gone to sleep.

If I don’t answer a text for a while he will ask if I am ok - I would do this too I guess if I’m used to regular texting. But sometimes he has been known to send 10 messages or more when I’ve not even had chance to read or reply to the first one! I’ve mentioned this to him, he says he understands but literally nothing changes.

We’ve had the odd meal where I’ve been on my phone while he’s been in the bathroom...I’m just browsing while on my own at the table. He comes back and he’s in a strange mood, find out in the car he thinks I’m messaging other men. To be fair I still have a dating app on my phone at this point, only because I hadn’t deleted it! I hadn’t even thought about it as I don’t use it, I explained this to him and even offered to show him the messages so he could see the last time I had used it. He was in a weird mood and said I was messing him around.

Another time after we had been to the cinema we didn’t know the way back so I got it up on google maps and the road wasn’t clear, he got very cross suddenly and I was taken aback.

He’s dropped me at my house a few times and will often comment that the area ‘looks like a council estate compared to where he lives.’ It doesn’t, it’s just a city not a village and I worked hard for my house here on a nice road.

When I suggested we slow things as a result of the above(cut down calls and meet less) , his response went from one moment saying he absolutely didn’t want that, to saying if I did that then he would be gone and his feelings would disappear. It was like we could actually talk about it properly. I confided in him about my tricky relationship with my mum and he has used this in an argument with me, randomly saying ‘oh and I’m sick of hearing about your weird relationship with your mum.’ I’ve mentioned it twice maybe... these things are only said when he’s angry or upset that I’ve suggested we take a step back and cool down, the rest of the time he’s lovely. He claims that me suggesting we take a step back is psychotic and weird and he can’t live like that. All I wanted was to have more space and feel like I miss him, no matter how I try and explain this he goes from very upset and hurt to lashing out. Even if we skipped one phone call I think it would help! I’m not asking for a massive cut down.

Other than this he is totally the ideal man in the sense that we get on and laugh together, want similar things. Is this me? I am being difficult here and harsh to him and causing him to behave like this?

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HMSSophie · 08/11/2020 14:50

Omg no no no.

Branleuse · 08/11/2020 14:53

rather you than me OP. He sounds needy and quite aggressive when he doesnt get his own way. You dont have to be at his beck and call. Who the hell does he think he is?

Coffeeandaride · 08/11/2020 14:57

He does sound possessive. I think his reaction on the way home from weekend away was horrible!
First the moodiness then accusing you of fleecing him?! Which is impossible if he offered and HE WASN’T PAYING FOR YOUR TIME!

The nice family is nice (but doesn’t make him nice). He is unlikely to move and if he did, only he would decide.

What matters is the man. This one is moody and possessive. Using what you said about your Mum is weird and a bit nasty. Why would you be texting other men during a meal? We all feel a little uncertain when meeting someone /start to have feelings - saying that to someone is kind of accusing them of cheating. You can’t get trust this way.

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Hairyfairy01 · 08/11/2020 15:09

4 month old relationships shouldn't be hard work. This, along with all the red flags he is waving at you would make me run for the hills. It will get worst OP, get out whilst you still can.

walksonthebeach · 08/11/2020 15:16

What everyone else said.

If he was your "ideal man" you wouldn't have started a thread on here about him at the "honeymoon stage" listing about 20 red flags. Your gut is telling you that he's not right for you. My guess is you fancy him & you want him to be your ideal man. If he was that amazing he'd have been snapped up by now by someone in his village where they all think he's great.

EllenRipley · 08/11/2020 15:23

Christ, I didn't even get to the end of that and there were screaming alarm bells going off.

Like everyone else has said:
It's not you, it's him.
Run.

MoonJelly · 08/11/2020 15:24

How can the "ideal man" be someone whose behaviour you regularly find "unattractive and hurtful"? I really don't think he is doing all this because he "likes and cares" for you, he's doing it because he enjoys controlling you.

There are so many danger signs around this, you need to walk away now.

uncomfortablydumb53 · 08/11/2020 15:28

I had to post as this so similar to my ex partner Please end the relationship carefully and safety He has the potential to turn malicious and a stalker I had to get the police involved in the end
I lost my confidence and almost my sanity

willloman · 08/11/2020 15:35

Sounds creepy/groomer. He's manipulating you. Absolutely no need for a grown woman to be 'reporting in' to her partner. Run now before it gets worse it will). This kind of attention is not flattering/a sign of love. He's controlling you.

gottastopeatingchocolate · 08/11/2020 15:38

I just ask you to note ho many people have said they have experienced a similar relationship, and how many have said that it all worked out in the end.

confusedpombear · 08/11/2020 15:43

Hi OP, I couldn't not post having read your OP. It really worries me. I recently got groomed by a senior man at work (incredible job, loved by all) who ended up sexually assaulting me. It started off exactly as you describe - he was lovely and very well respected too. The red flags crept in and it snowballed into something awful, dangerous and frightening. All I can say is I'm so relieved I wasn't raped and I got away without him utterly ruining my life. I've been referred for trauma psychotherapy though so it isn't all over.

Have a little read about dating those with narcissistic personality disorders. When I read several articles everything suddenly fell into place and I realised this lovely man I'd begun to trust had some very worrying traits. He may not actually have NPD but the manipulation and controlling tactics that you describe fit the bill pretty well.

Please run. It may seem hard. If you have a shred of self respect you will see it's easier to leave now rather than later down the line when you're too sucked in.

I'm really sorry it hasn't worked out for you and I wish you all the best. Do keep us updated Thanks

ToujoursABjetaime · 08/11/2020 15:45

If you can't talk to him about the relationship as adults that's enough information to stop this.

Try and remember that in the forest of red flags already mentioned. On it's own that fact is enough to know this won't work.

All the best OP you sound lovely.

BuffaloMozzerella · 08/11/2020 15:49

OP he is already abusing you. His comments over money, attention, your independence, your family your phone, other men - all abuse.

You need to end it and get away from this man.

ginandbearit · 08/11/2020 15:52

I'm not meaning to victim blame here( as an ex counsellor I know how difficult it is to break away from abusers ) BUT GET A FUCKING GRIP..you're already minimising and blaming yourself for things...get out now ! Go dark ..no contact ..just say this isnt for you ..wish him a happy life and no further contact please .
He'll either explode and stalk you or cut you dead, outraged at your presumption that you can walk away from someone so wonderful .
GET THE FUCK OUT NOW...( gawd I wish I'd been allowed to say that in my counselling days..)

Winterfairy23 · 08/11/2020 15:55

He sounds really unsecure and controlling. I would end it and move on.

TheRealJeanLouise · 08/11/2020 15:58

This is an abusive relationship in the making OP and the fact that you’re already questioning if it’s you, means that it’s already well on it’s way and has gone to far. You really, really must end this now because what lies ahead is a whole load of pain for you.

TheRealJeanLouise · 08/11/2020 15:58

Oh god *too. Cringe Blush

SpongeWorthy · 08/11/2020 15:58

Please leave him and have some time being single and having therapy before you even think about dating again. You have ignored multiple, huge red flags very quickly and that means you're ever so vulnerable to this happening again. You are not in a secure enough headspace to be dating at the moment. Google the shark cage analogy. Being single for a while is so much healthier than not doing the work required to reinforce your boundaries and getting into another unhealthy relationship like this.

ultragroupie · 08/11/2020 15:59

@FippertyGibbett

No, I think you need to walk away.
I think you need to RUN away! As fast as you can!
greenspacesoverthere · 08/11/2020 16:01

I find it worrying that you think he's a good person and a nice BF because he's kind and fun sometimes.

Don't you think you deserve more than this?

Don't you think that you deserve to address the myriad of red flags and treat yourself with respect and run away from this dreadful man?

Cherrysoup · 08/11/2020 16:16

Have you only ever had really shit relationships or none at all, cos you sound like you’re grateful for his attention and the small amount of time he’s nice to you. He sounds horrible, OP, you are worth more. Run. I bet you find he won’t let go easily.

Crimeismymiddlename · 08/11/2020 16:17

Oh wow. I have read all your updates and I can’t believe you are still entertaining this man. As well as being controlling, and a bit strange he insults you, your home and your character. And you think you are the problem. Please bin him off, let yourself be the women he complains about being a crazy gold digger that lives in a slum to his next girlfriend-because I bet that’s how he talks about his ex’s to you.

Titleday · 08/11/2020 16:18

These later messages are making me sad. I’ve had two great relationships but that was over 7 years ago. Since then I’ve had a rough time. Can’t imagine a good relationship really. I’m really sad about it today. I know this will have to end. I’m ok alone and have my own life, it would just be so nice to share it.

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walksonthebeach · 08/11/2020 16:19

You will find someone way better than him 💐

Kernowgal · 08/11/2020 16:26

@Titleday

These later messages are making me sad. I’ve had two great relationships but that was over 7 years ago. Since then I’ve had a rough time. Can’t imagine a good relationship really. I’m really sad about it today. I know this will have to end. I’m ok alone and have my own life, it would just be so nice to share it.
Better to feel sad about it but get out now, rather than stick it out and hope it improves and potentially find yourself on the receiving end of violence.

I too really wanted to be in a relationship after years of being single, and so I tried to ignore all the nagging doubts. But they were always there. Being in a relationship like this is exhausting, and I can tell you that being single but in charge of your life is a thousand million bazillion times better, even if it means feeling lonely sometimes. You'll feel a lot lonelier in this relationship.

You are worth so much more than this horrible excuse for a man.

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