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ADs won't tut when you're stuck in a rut, we're all too busy pouring Amaretto in our porridge

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BogRollBOGOF · 04/11/2020 10:44

Welcome into another thread of alternative reality as we try to nagivate through the Coronacoaster of life.

We may be up, down, spinning around (generally in confusion at the next random edict drawn up on the back of a fag packet) but never sucking the joy out of life.

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Jourdain11 · 10/11/2020 22:14

Oh, for God's sake! Confused

Jourdain11 · 10/11/2020 22:15

But of course, if she goes to hospital and does have Covid, she'll be personally responsible for killing 20 NHS staff and their grannies.

(Side note, why always granny? No one seems to give a toss about the grandad!)

justasking111 · 10/11/2020 22:17

Thankfully a midwife has stepped in now with some sound advice.

BogRollBOGOF · 10/11/2020 23:06

Is it me or does the rhythm of this thread's title fit with the tune of National Express by the Divine Comedy?

I've had two good days. I've been looking at my calendarvto see if last week's rut sits with hormones but it's not quite my normal pattern, plus it was much longer and more intense than usual. It's such a relief to suddenly feel like myself again. I think a lot is connected to a few hours chatting happily with my friend and just getting a good dose of social contact. And I can look forwards to doing it again next Monday to start the week Grin

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MercyBooth · 10/11/2020 23:06

Has Boris suddenly realised that Black Friday falls during lockdown?
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8934985/None-Londons-boroughs-Englands-100-Covid-hotspots.html

AcornAutumn · 10/11/2020 23:25

Bog “ Is it me or does the rhythm of this thread's title fit with the tune of National Express by the Divine Comedy?”

Which bit of the song?

I just laughed like a drain at Manny squashing his balls.

AcornAutumn · 10/11/2020 23:30

Just saw this passed Parliament today

www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/973/made?view=plain

I wrote to my mp for an explanation but I didn’t understand his explanation. Blush

To me it reads like retaining dna if you have a covid test. But what for?

justasking111 · 10/11/2020 23:38

@AcornAutumn

Just saw this passed Parliament today

www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/973/made?view=plain

I wrote to my mp for an explanation but I didn’t understand his explanation. Blush

To me it reads like retaining dna if you have a covid test. But what for?

mother of god it reads like retaining dna for national security. We are going on a humungous database aren`t we.
MercyBooth · 10/11/2020 23:41
Shock
justasking111 · 10/11/2020 23:42

@AcornAutumn what did your mp say

AcornAutumn · 10/11/2020 23:42

Just - yes, that’s the way I read it

He sent me this to explain it in plain English

www.gov.uk/government/news/biometrics-commissioner-statement-on-the-coronavirus-act-and-the-protection-of-freedoms-act

My interpretation is the same after reading that. Maybe I’ll ask on the legal board.

Jourdain11 · 11/11/2020 00:25

Ah, somebody was posting about this on Nextdoor - and yes, I think your interpretation is correct Confused

AcornAutumn · 11/11/2020 00:30

@Jourdain11

Ah, somebody was posting about this on Nextdoor - and yes, I think your interpretation is correct Confused
Thanks

DNA database without asking

MercyBooth · 11/11/2020 00:35

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54892107

Covid: Anti-lockdown Tory MPs to resist 'repeated' restrictions
Published1 hour ago

"Conservative MPs who voted against the current lockdown in England have formed a new group aimed at preventing further blanket national restrictions.

The Covid Recovery Group will argue for a different approach when the current curbs end on 2 December to enable the country to "live with the virus".

Its 30-plus members want more analysis of the economic damage being done and to challenge the scientific advice.

The PM has stressed the NHS is at risk of a "medical disaster" without action.

Boris Johnson has insisted the data on hospitalisations and deaths is "irrefutable" and justified the four-week closure of non-essential shops, pubs, restaurants and leisure facilities, which took effect from 4 November.

A further 20,412 coronavirus cases were reported in the UK on Tuesday, with another 532 deaths within 28 days of a positive test recorded.

Although Parliament overwhelmingly backed the restrictions - which include ban on contacts between members of different households outside a support bubble either indoors or in private gardens - in a vote at the start of November, 34 Tory MPs opposed them while 19, including former PM Theresa May, abstained.

The government has said it intends to revert to the previous regionalised system of tiered restrictions when the lockdown period ends.

Ministers have been warned that they face an even bigger rebellion if they try to extend the lockdown over the Christmas and New Year period.

The Covid Recovery Group - whose members include ex-Chief Whip Mark Harper and the chairman of the powerful 1922 committee of backbench Tories Sir Graham Brady - says the "devastating cycle" of repeated restrictions cannot be prolonged.

The group, which includes all those who voted against the lockdown and others who backed it, wants ministers to undertake a cost-benefit analysis of the restrictions to determine whether they are costing more lives than they are saving by stopping cancer and dementia treatments and increasing suicide rates among the under-40.

It is also calling for an end to the "monopoly" it says scientists have on advising the government.

It wants all of the statistical modelling informing decisions to be published, following recent rows over the reliability of data, and for a wider range of multi-disciplinary experts to get "a seat the table".

It says no policies should put before Parliament unless they are backed up by three "independent" expert opinions.

Sustainable'
Figures published on Tuesday showed redundancies rose to a record high of 314,000 in the three months to the end September, as firms laid off people in anticipation of the furlough scheme ending in November.

Despite the government extending the wage subsidy scheme to March, economists have said the jobs picture remains bleak, with further big rises in unemployment expected in the coming months.

Mr Harper said the country needed to find a "sustainable way" of living with Covid until a vaccine was available for mass use to stop "immense" economic damage.

"Lockdowns cost lives, whether in undiagnosed cancer treatments, deteriorating mental health, and missed A&E appointments - not to mention the impact it has on young people's education, job prospects and our soaring debts," he said.

"The cure we're prescribing runs the risk of being worse than the disease."

The new pressure group, he added, would "play its part in helping the government to deliver an enduring strategy for living with the virus, so that we break the transmission of the disease, command public support, end this devastating cycle of repeated restrictions".

Speaking in Parliament earlier, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said it was critical people continued to follow the rules to get the R number below one, telling MPs "our plan is working"

MercyBooth · 11/11/2020 01:31

Just thought of the perfect Christmas jumper. The Three Jingle Bellends Grin

LivinLaVidaLoki · 11/11/2020 06:37

Anyone else noticed this over in the bad place....

Now that there is talk about the real potential for a return to normal life and eligibility for a vaccine, the "well itll still be years because there are so many young and fit healthy people with no underlying conditions in hospital. My sisters best friends neighbours teacher is only 25, she's in ICU with covid blah blah blah"

Not to mention "yeah but long covid, young fit and healthy blah blah"

This week has really shown just how some people don't want this to change.

They still want to stay at home because -they are secretly loving sitting at home being part of a huge drama- of their anxieties...that's fine, but for fucks sake stop trying to drag us all down with you.

110APiccadilly · 11/11/2020 07:11

According to the Mail, 40% of people want Boris to have the vaccine to prove it's safe. What's the betting there's another 40% who'd yell "queue-jumping"?! And apparently hundreds who'd ask why his dose wasn't given to a teacher.

BogRollBOGOF · 11/11/2020 07:17

ADs won't tut
Take the National Express
When you're stuck in a rut
When your life's in a mess
We lose it a bit by the Amaretto Grin
It will make you smile

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JamSarnie · 11/11/2020 07:20
  • This week has really shown just how some people don't want this to change.

They still want to stay at home because -they are secretly loving sitting at home being part of a huge drama- of their anxieties...that's fine, but for fucks sake stop trying to drag us all down with you.*

I am hoping that there are enough voices now being heard that understand risk and that life has and always been 'risky'. I always think about the phrase 'the only thing guaranteed in life is death'.

I suspect many people are now bloody fed up of seeing their or other jobs disappear, not going on holiday, not enjoying the social events that make life worth living etc that the permanently socially anxious will lose their collective influence as most of us say screw it and get back to living.

110APiccadilly · 11/11/2020 07:28

Some of the problem with the anxious is that the government and media did a very good job of persuading people that everyone was at risk, "The virus doesn't discriminate," and so on. So now people think that if the elderly and vulnerable are vaccinated, but not them, they're being thrown under the bus. Because they never understood that their risk was so tiny.

Daisymaze · 11/11/2020 07:33

I think some people have found lockdown better for them, and aren't willing it to change despite the huge negative impact on others. My friend is WFH, her usual office is a 10 minute walk away, and she's annoyed they won't change her contract to fully wfh going forward, she said are can't bare the thought of going back in, it's so unfair, so she's forever sharing ridiculous "info" about how dangerous it is etc in a futile hope she can inform policy so are can carry on as are likes.

Bollss · 11/11/2020 07:36

Morning.

Yep there's loads of people who just love drama, they love that everyone else's life is as boring and shit as theirs. Misery loves company!

There really will be some people who are devastated when normal comes back.

BogRollBOGOF · 11/11/2020 07:55

It mystifies me that there are a significant core that think that people will forever wear hankies on their face when they have a cold, never hug, will always have screens and very limited capacties.
Totally insustainable.

It's like those "I had such a lovely weekend not doing anything" type threads. Lovely. You don't need to be forced into doing nothing you know. You could just put on your big girl pants and leave space in your diary and change your commitments.

And the China comparisons... I spent a month travelling through from Hong Kong to Beijing in the summer of swine flu. Face masks were not the default! Lots of coughing up phlegm in the street though. And in one gross experience, the central aisle of the bus and watching that tricking up and down the aisle for over an hour between Xi'an and the Terracotta Warriors Envy

As a society that's faced long term oppression and purges, it is incredibly guarded and self (pre)serving. It's not that people are unkind, but there is a limit to what you can share in your public persona.
Tibet had armed military patrolling the streets and people are in fear of being bugged. As a tourist you need a special permit issued internally and they can be hard to get. In the September, officials didn't say that they weren't issuing them, just delayed and delayed until tourists gave up and moved on. With hindsight they were ensuring that there were no tourists in the region as the 60th anniversary of the Revolution was approaching. We strategically timed to spend a fortnight in Mongolia then to avoid travel and accommodation disruption (due to demand, tourists were finding that they had to book and stay put for 10 days to be in the right place for their connections) and when we returned, we got the permits almost immediately from Beijing as the celebrations had passed peacefully.
Going to Nepal and India after China was like a social explosion! People are so much more transparent, even when there's not a financial opportunity involved.
They might get lumped together as emerging nations of 1b population, but socially they're almost opposites.
What I did like in China and the most evident genuine culture were the street/ park gatherings for tai chi and line dancing.
Because so much history was destroyed, they now build temples and pass them off as genuine with fake history.
I have nothing against the people there, but the ruling society over them affects their public face in a way that you don't get in most parts of the world. It's people doing whar they have to to get by.

I suppose that's why blind confomity at the moment bothers me. You've been told to mask up in the playground so just do it even if it is totally pointless exhibitionism.

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Daisymaze · 11/11/2020 08:01

I'll be honest I'm not particularly arsed about masks, if it keeps stuff open then makes no odds to me. I do hope people keep an element of the heightened hygiene measures when life returns, the amount of times when I used to work in retail I was sneezed at, coughed at, even had people say stuff like just a quick shop as I have D&V but needed some bits. But by that just not being fucking gross rather than screens and masks etc- tissues and hands.