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SAHM - could you live off this amount of £

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Livingnearthesea · 28/10/2020 09:11

Name changed. Sorry if this is long but I would appreciate some opinions please on 2 specific questions, so please no judgement about how SAHM should never become financially dependent etc.

I’ve been a SAHM for 5 years and had started to look for a job then Covid hit and local jobs have dried up.

DH does standing order for £200/month to me, and he pays for the gym. Out of that £200/month over the course of a year I need to pay for:
-Clothing and shoes
-Skincare / make up
-Any other personal items

  • Mobile
-Gifts for family and friends (mine) -Prescriptions (need 2-3 per year) -Glasses prescription (varifocal so expensive, now needing new one second year in a row)
  • Hair cuts
-Bus/train fares (don’t drive and we live 30 mins walk to town. I have significant diagnosed foot pain so I can’t always walk far) -Coffee or meal with friends (avoid the latter very often as becomes too expensive) -Taking DC out somewhere by myself so pay for transport, entry fees, lunch etc, or for play dates at a park where everyone else is buying snacks/coffee etc
  • Garden plants & compost etc as DH sees little point in it looking nice
  • DIY items like paint and materials, when I want to upgrade the paint work
  • train to visit my relatives 1-2/year (min fare in advance about £80-100. I’ll now need to pay for DC as he has turned 5 so fares will be much more than stated)
  • Misc

So, over the space of a year would this be enough for you to live off? I never spend money on nice things for myself like new clothing, nails, facials, fashion accessories etc). Over the past 2 years I have unfortunately built up a credit card bill of nearly £900 because I’ve found it hard to meet all expenses.

We have a joint account for the mortgage, all bills, groceries and misc bits and pieces.

Second question which is causing me a moral dilemma- I have just been told that I’ve won £300 in a prize draw that I entered. This would be amazing to put on the CC and make a huge effort to pay it off, but my dilemma is to whether to tell DH?

He earns £110k and comes from a very frugal family. As a result they are all quite wealthy so this £300 is nothing but pocket money to him. For me, this is a wonderful surprise but I know he’d say put it in the joint account and let’s do something nice as a family with it - but we wouldn’t (partly thanks to Covid but he’s also a workaholic and is too tired to do much, hence why I take DC out myself).

I’ve never been a deceitful person but he’s so tight with money sometimes yet only wears designer clothes and suits himself, bought himself a £42k car recently etc and here I am not having had any decent new clothes since I had DC (it you can count £5 t-shirts)- I shop in charity shops only now.

I’m torn. Please believe me when I say I’ve never been a deceitful person, but he would not be happy if I kept this money for myself yet he doesn’t exactly lavish money on me like he does himself (I don’t expect lavish things btw - it would just be nice to be bought a pair of winter boots that suit my bad foot - plantar fasciitis - rather than the cheap shoes I buy that never do).
He does buy me things like jewellery and a rain coat, but he seems to think as a SAHM I don’t need things.

Preparing to be told this financial situation is all my fault Sad

OP posts:
BillMasen · 28/10/2020 12:40

@Completmentfille

But this is different

No it isn't.

Financial abuse is dangerous, damaging, and not fixable by a conversation.

You really have no idea what you are talking about.

I respect your knowledge and experience in this field. And agree that financial abuse is serious.

My point is that, given what we have been told, we cannot say yet if this is financial abuse or a communication issue. You, and others, have perhaps understandably, leapt to the conclusion that it is. I just feel that it could not be and a straight conversation at this stage could resolve it. If not, then yes, I’d call it financial abuse.

Crazybunnylady123 · 28/10/2020 12:44

If my partner left me dressed in rags while he had a nice new car I would be walking!
As it so happens we earn much much less and he would sacrifice his last few quid for me and the kids.

MessAllOver · 28/10/2020 12:46

Wow. This is not ok. Put the 300 towards the credit card and don't tell your DH.

Then you have a choice to make. Either talk to him and establish an equal relationship where you're partners and both have access to a reasonable amount of money to meet your needs. Or work towards leaving him.

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Pringlemonster · 28/10/2020 12:47

Not enough
£50 a week ,
No absolutely not

formerbabe · 28/10/2020 12:49

It's not a communication issue...he knows what he's doing. He has made a choice. We have a much lower income and I'm a sahm. Dh asks me regularly if I have enough money and do I need more.

Titsinknicks · 28/10/2020 12:49

£200 is nowhere near enough and wouldn't be if he was on half that salary

MadameBlobby · 28/10/2020 12:49

He’s financially abusing you. He’s a cunt and you should leave. You’ll be free and have more money. In the meantime, try and get a job if you can. I know it’s difficult at the best of times, let alone now.

Darker · 28/10/2020 12:49

People - please please remember that if the OP is a victim of coercive control, leaving is potentially highly dangerous. She has no money and no job. She can't just walk away.

MadameBlobby · 28/10/2020 12:52

Sorry @Darker good point

OP hope you manage to negotiate an exit strategy soon

Mummyoflittledragon · 28/10/2020 12:53

Bill
A professional has told you this isn’t fixable. Women on this thread with a wealth of experience as women and who’ve also seen other women is saying it’s fixable.

Why are you not listening to us because frankly you’re coming across as a know it all male?

Wannabegreenfingers · 28/10/2020 12:54

This is awful. No I couldn't live off £200 a month for everything you listed and I'm a single parent with 2 children.

piscis · 28/10/2020 12:54

It is ridiculous to be building up a debt when he earns more than 100k, it doesnt make sense.

BillMasen · 28/10/2020 12:59

@Mummyoflittledragon

Bill A professional has told you this isn’t fixable. Women on this thread with a wealth of experience as women and who’ve also seen other women is saying it’s fixable.

Why are you not listening to us because frankly you’re coming across as a know it all male?

Firstly, and again, my sex is irrelevant. Opinions don’t count less from one sex vs the other

Secondly it’s the opposite of “know it all”. I’m saying no-one on this thread knows enough to state the op should simply leave with no discussion. It’s a sometimes understandable knee jerk often seen on here and I don’t think we have sufficient knowledge here to jump to that.

I respect the expert opinions. I just think some are acting on incomplete information which may not actually be the right thing for the OP

Serenschintte · 28/10/2020 13:00

It’s outrageous that he gives you an allowance. I have not been in pain employment since my teen was born. DH would not dream of giving me an allowance. I work at home. It’s our money. We talk about larger expenses. I’m so sorry you are experiencing this controlling behavior

HelloRose · 28/10/2020 13:02

OP I think you know yourself this situation is incredibly unfair. How is your relationship otherwise? Can you have a frank discussion with him?
Definitely put the 300 quid towards your credit card. Regardless of whether you tell him or not, you can't let this debt continue to build.

Serenschintte · 28/10/2020 13:03

Also would you take a housekeeping/nanny job with similar hours as the ones you work for £2400 a year - which is what you receive. I hope not.

Noideawottodo · 28/10/2020 13:07

FWIW, When I was a SAHM my dh earned around that amount and gave me £1000 a month.

Aozora13 · 28/10/2020 13:08

On that salary he takes home more in a day than he gives you a month. That’s not frugal, that’s extremely tight-arse and possibly financially abusive. You need to come up with a more equitable arrangement. How does he treat you in other regards?

Thedogshow · 28/10/2020 13:08

I think that’s awful. It would be ok if he was earning very little and things were tight for you both, but it’s horrible that he is earning so much but is so mean with his money, and very disrespectful of the role you are playing in raising the children.

When I was a SAHM everything went into the joint account and we discussed big purchases but my husband never questioned my spending on smaller things and was generous and kind.

I would really not choose to be a SAHM in your circumstances. You are being controlled and disrespected and not able to make your own choices.

Noideawottodo · 28/10/2020 13:09

He also put a big chunk into a househould account for bills/mortgage etc, he 'paid' himself about 600 a month.

Noideawottodo · 28/10/2020 13:10

110000 salary is asbout 6k a month! 200 quid is pitiful

bestbefore · 28/10/2020 13:12

@LouisLitt

Fucking hell. What a tight bastard.
THIS!
Rhythmisadancer · 28/10/2020 13:13

He is quite a high earner but doesn't seem to realise that it takes two of you to earn that salary - what would he be paying in childcare costs if you weren't at home? Do you have a cleaner / get any ironing done? Or are you doing that as well? Because he would either be doing it or paying for it if you weren't there. He is massively taking advantage of you.

Suzi888 · 28/10/2020 13:14

No I couldn’t live like that, at least not whilst he was earning £106k. Ask for more! Grin or say you’ll get your own job and he can pay for the child care if needed.
I’d say around £600-£800 a month is more reasonable. (As he can afford that).

DianaT1969 · 28/10/2020 13:15

It must be difficult to have sex with someone who thinks that your contribution to the family (caring for his child and keeping a home) is worth less that £50 per week.
The fact that you've allowed this situation to go on so long, suggests that you struggle to assert yourself and you don't feel self-worth. Whether you stay with him or not, work on that.
I would have got a job pronto and earned my own money if this was my only option. I guess you don't have a pension either?