ADs head off to The Three Bellends and discuss luxury duvets and stationery

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(Socially distanced of course and in strictest obedience of all localised lockdowns and 3 or 5 tiers and whatever illogic the powers that be can dream up next)

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@WouldBeGood

As I think we’ve said before on these threads, I do think that one’s attitude is different if one has been through a whole pile of shite before all this. Perspective

Completely agree.

Oddly enough, I've had two separate fairly serious medical issues in my life (and I'm not that old!) I think it does give you a bit more perspective.

I've also worked in a care home, which gives you a decent idea about what death and dying in line for most people.

*is like, not in line

'I'm a doctor and I'll have to work over Xmas because of you' (obviously we all know that winter has been easy for the NHS until this year cos obvs no one's ever died before). Are these people not frankly just bored.

Feck off you.arent a Dr if Drs and nurses etc working over Xmas is a revalation to you! Pig ignorant if they think.we are that stupid.

Might be off base here but Boris and Co not shifting on the school meals debacle.............is he hoping for civil unrest so when the virus spreads he can heap more blame onto the public.

@MercyBooth

Might be off base here but Boris and Co not shifting on the school meals debacle.............is he hoping for civil unrest so when the virus spreads he can heap more blame onto the public.

I think you're giving Boris more credit than is due. Not sure he's capable of that level of forward thinking.

Cummings is though.

Organised a zoom call with friends tonight managed to get five of us together, two hours flew by. Feel so much better, we all moaned about missing our lunches out we have been together since playgroup days. A couple fell by the wayside as our lives changed but mainly we have stayed in touch online and in person, two of us are grannies now. One of us has a 7 year old, our last baby in the group.

We all had a good moan about the shit that is covid. All ADs thank god. Especially the one in the medical profession hee hee. She did say that dermatitis is rife in the community so be sparing with the sanitiser and try to use soap to protect your hands.

I bet impetigo is too.

I think that not only have they painted themselves into a corner, their scare tactics have worked so well they are all shit scared.

I remember in the nurses home (a huge, old, creaky house) we used to sit round scaring each other with the ghost stories we heard on our wards, about the nurses home and just in general - and by the time we had finished we would all be scared to go back to our rooms. I think that's the state our politicians are in now.

Loving your thread, people! I agree that there is madness all around. How is it possible that the U.K. can spend a couple of hundred billion pounds on the covid response but can’t fund meal vouchers for the poorest children? I am lost in disbelief.

I know of a care home that are building a conservatory for visitors ,so that the visitors are not out in the cold ,and wet ,and are still able to talk to there loved ones.

@WouldBeGood

As I think we’ve said before on these threads, I do think that one’s attitude is different if one has been through a whole pile of shite before all this. Perspective

Agree too.

mercy hope your DM gets the care she needs.

livin perhaps you/dc could submit a design to your mp like this 🖕with a Santa hat perched on top 😁

Not getting the app here, we’ve already done one isolation while waiting for dc’s test result. Not doing it again if at all possible. Even DementorH doesn’t have it, (although he doesn’t actually go anywhere anyway lol)

Neurodiverse household here too. Ds1 ASD,adhd, is loving the rules etc, he is also paranoid about his teenage spots at the moment so took advantage of being able to look normal wearing a mask so he could hide them and venture out in public this morning.

For you lovely ladies.

Victoria Derbyshire. "I"ll break the rule of six if it applies at Christmas"

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54685296

Jesus its not like shes going to have a rave.

DH reckons they will let some rules relax for Christmas, if only because after the Cummings debacle the press will be watching them like hawks, and they won't want to be caught "flouting" again.

@WouldBeGood Completely agree with you about perspective. I almost drowned as a child after getting caught in a riptide and also walked away with minor injuries from a car crash which killed two of my friends. I’m following the washing hands and wearing a mask (under protest) guidance but no more than that. I’m not particularly scared of Covid.
In other news I have got a Three Bellends t-shirt on the way. The company who own the pub had some printed!
I hope everyone who had a shitty day yesterday is feeling better today.

Morning all

mercy so glad your mum is okay.

I slept last night. I had a useful productive day and all your supportive comments helped too.

I do think that most of us on this thread may have experienced death more closely than many Ds have and that makes us more likely to accept it as a fact of life.

I was wondering, though, do any of you think that we've rather lost ritual around death and this contributes to the fear? That because we've been so lucky, we've forgotten how to accept death and we tuck it away so we don't think about it? We still have funerals but it often seems as though once that ends, then the bereaved should stop mourning. I don't know, I am musing.

[quote Iheartmysmart]@WouldBeGood Completely agree with you about perspective. I almost drowned as a child after getting caught in a riptide and also walked away with minor injuries from a car crash which killed two of my friends. I’m following the washing hands and wearing a mask (under protest) guidance but no more than that. I’m not particularly scared of Covid.
In other news I have got a Three Bellends t-shirt on the way. The company who own the pub had some printed!
I hope everyone who had a shitty day yesterday is feeling better today.[/quote]
Did you buy the 3 bellends t-shirt online or in the pub? After seeing all the 2020 souvenir tat on the Facebook tat thread, a 3 bellends t-shirt would be the only 2020 souvenir I would want!

Modern society means deaths tend to happen in hospitals and nursing homes. Few of us will have ever seen a dead body. We definitely don't live with death as closely as we used to.

@starfish88 I emailed Rockpoint Leisure who own the pub to see if they had any plans to release a t-shirt. Turns out they already had some made and would send me one. They are £20 each plus postage. There is a contact form on their website. Think it’s the only souvenir from 2020 I want as well!

My biggest concern about death at the moment is that you can't give the deceased the send off they deserve.

Frankly if Covid polished me off, it would be a freak anomally anyway. It would be horrible for DH and the DCs especially when they realise that contrary to appearences I did actually do some housework But seriously, it would hurt, deeply and they would live with it, and my disgruntled soul rattling around the place because I didn't have a lovely, exuberent funeral where people I love could come together, sob, hug, and laugh at my great-cock ups

I have relatives in their 80s ticking along OK. They have quality of life left, so yes it would be shock if they went after a short illness. Sad, but not tragic. They fear being trapped in wasted bodies or minds far far more.

I lost my dad in his 50s when I was a child. That was a shock to us all.
I lost an uncle in his late 40s. Severely brain damaged at birth, and he and his peers age quickly. He couldn't process the combination of my dad's death followed 18m later by the key worker who guided him through the first bereavement and he plunged into an ever deepening depression that consumed him. The last time I saw him was sedated in ITU, and it's a comforting memory because he was at peace and not feeling mental or physical pain. It was far, far worse seeing him the previous time hunched over in a chair locked into his own world with no connection to us.
Death like that is a release.

@ISaySteadyOn
I think, for many people, they think that bad things only happen to other people, & that if you do everything "right" you will be ok, & if everyone else does it "right" you will also be protected. Hence the need for people to stick rigidly to all of the rules, & the desire to control everything around them.

Well, I used to think that & then having done everything "right", bad thing after bad thing kept happening. There are some things we have so little control over. It's life. Shit happens. Best to get on with it the best we can.
I'm still being cautious over covid but so much worse has, or could happen. We can only do so much.

As for rituals around death, I'm always struck as to how little time we give the bereaved to grieve. I remember asking for compassionate leave for a grandparent's funeral when I was younger & being asked, "It depends. How close were you to your grandfather?" I was allowed one day off. Most people I know have to get signed off as sick when they have a bereavement.

Maybe mourning should come back in. As I understood it, there were different gradients as grief lessened leaving memories.