ADs head off to The Three Bellends and discuss luxury duvets and stationery

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(Socially distanced of course and in strictest obedience of all localised lockdowns and 3 or 5 tiers and whatever illogic the powers that be can dream up next)

The original digital discussion continues...

MIL died last December. She was deaf, nearly blind and bed ridden and had wanted to die for years. If she'd been kept alive through all this without visitors and not properly understanding why (because she couldn't hear or see, there was nothing wrong with her mind) it would have been beyond cruel.

In our county, half of the Covid deaths were in care homes, it’s on their web site. The rest unfortunately were mostly over 60. Which is awful.
I’m checking the stats every day, we look like we are over the hill. My little district has barely double figures and they are going down. And is the average for UK.
I love all the people who just go order online. What about the people who have to leave the house to go work. It’s a gift to the likes of Amazon .
I binge watched Yonderland, it was so funny and the Christmas special.
I’ve also watched Horrible Histories, the highwayman song too many times on YouTube. I like Adam Ant and Mat Baynton.

Does anyone feel (please correct me if I'm wrong!) but this all feels just wrong!! The elderly who we are supposed to be protecting in my experience feel completely abandoned! Wasn't it a little while ago that the message was loneliness kills? Also this whole we can't shield the vulnerable whilst everyone else gets back to normal feels a bit ironic?! As, as we are the vulnerable are still being put at risk whilst we are all still being restricted? Wouldn't the best answer be to offer financial support for those in any vulnerable situation, be it a job, a multi generation household or whatever and allow others to go back to normal to be able to pay towards them? I do understand that they have jobs to do but aren't they still doing them whilst we are all banged up? I would be happy to pay more to be able for them to be able to feel safe whilst those of us that can financially support them and the NHS! As before much longer there is going to be no money to support anyone!

I totally agree @Wishfulthinking1977

@Wishfulthinking1977

Does anyone feel (please correct me if I'm wrong!) but this all feels just wrong!! The elderly who we are supposed to be protecting in my experience feel completely abandoned! Wasn't it a little while ago that the message was loneliness kills? Also this whole we can't shield the vulnerable whilst everyone else gets back to normal feels a bit ironic?! As, as we are the vulnerable are still being put at risk whilst we are all still being restricted? Wouldn't the best answer be to offer financial support for those in any vulnerable situation, be it a job, a multi generation household or whatever and allow others to go back to normal to be able to pay towards them? I do understand that they have jobs to do but aren't they still doing them whilst we are all banged up? I would be happy to pay more to be able for them to be able to feel safe whilst those of us that can financially support them and the NHS! As before much longer there is going to be no money to support anyone!

Yep

"The elderly who we are supposed to be protecting in my experience feel completely abandoned! Wasn't it a little while ago that the message was loneliness kills?"
Agree with this. Not everyone has someone to phone/ bubble with. Not everyone can access the internet.

In an increasingly crazy world, my elderly & vulnerable (in a social, not medical sense) relative can't get a lifeline alarm fitted. The company won't go into houses to fit them "because of covid"(my mother told them they were being ridiculous- good for her!) But the housing people have been in, masked, to do repairs.
It seems that in some areas we would prefer to risk people falling & spending all night on the floor with a broken leg than we are to risk maybe getting covid off someone who hasn't left their house in months.

Im Helena i NCed DM was taken to hospital this evening. Shes had problems with her legs and pains and noise in her head for ages. She nearly collapsed in her kitchen two weeks ago, She was supposed to have a blood test in March which was put off till August. A while back she was stung by a wasp on her leg and that seemed to make it worse. Shes had to go into hospital on her own. Dad said that when the paramedics who came to the house did the ECG they found a glitch.

So cheers Three Bellends and your disciples for the shitty long lockdown.

Shes 84

I hope she gets the help she needs and gets home quickly x

Thanks @BogRollBOGOF

Oh that is awful and a common tale across the country I suspect. It really is the end of the road for any pretence that the government care, the older and elderly are just a nuisance now and should not have dared to pass the three score years and ten they were allocated originally

Well it's 2.30am and I'm lying in bed in a massive anxiety spiral. No specific reason. Just waves of doom.

It will pass but tomorrow (today) will be hard going. The bad ones leave me twitchy and stressed for hours.

I can't sleep either, @NothingIsWrong. Things keep going round in my head. You are not alone. Offering a virtual handhold if you want it.

@MercyBooth, I am sorry about your mum. That sounds v hard.

I’m awake with The Fear too, @NothingIsWrong and @ISaySteadyOn. It’s rubbish.

Think I’ll try a soothing bedtime tale from the insight timer app. All free and loads to choose from.

@MercyBooth oh no, how horrible. Hope she is ok 💐

And @TheOrchidKiller that’s just ridiculous - sky engineers will come out! Why tf not actual support services?

@MercyBooth

I hope the insomniacs got to sleep.

@WouldBeGood
Ha ha, Sky did go out during full lockdown to fix something!

Morning and sorry to those having a bad night for any reasons. I get the Team Anxiety feelings of doom spiral that can knock you off all day if you wake up with a bad one.

Thinking of your mum @MercyBooth fingers crossed.

Still waiting for the tier 3 here - they love letting it hang over us for weeks don’t they? It’s like psychological torture.

MercyBooth hope your mum gets everything she needs and is more comfortable this morning. Keeping everything crossed she gets home soon.

Insomnia sucks i spent the night awake/asleep/awake too. Once i am organised and ds2 off to school might try a nap not working till this afternoon.

Morning all. Feeling so strange this morning. On the one hand there seems to be a vaccine imminent (for the NHS and the vulnerable anyway) but then on the other hand there is talk of more tiers and I can't take the uncertainty of it all.

Good morning. I assure about the uncertainty being awful. I actually felt a bit relieved when Welsh Government finally announced the firebreak - in a, "It'll be awful, but at least we know what the awfulness is now," sort of way. (Although now of course we have the same uncertainty about what will happen after.)

Agree, not assure.

Mercy I am so sorry

I hope your mum gets treated quickly. It’s appalling that she has to be alone.

I must admit, mum had a fall and paramedics wanted her to go to hospital “to be in the safe side” but she refused, that was two months ago. She might have agreed but being alone through it was the last straw. Her ECG was fine though. Last time she had heart trouble, they kept her in for observation and did nothing and she discharged herself.

That was 4 years ago.

Sorry for the insomniacs. I took a pill, but the last week I’ve noticed, in addition to grinding my teeth, I now have shoulder pain, I think they’re around my ears during the night.

Well
The jokes about Amazon and Wales weren’t wrong

businessnewswales.com/welsh-government-partners-with-amazon-to-offer-funds-for-startups/

Throughout this whole mess I've had periods of insomnia. I've not suffered with it at all since my mum died and now....

@MercyBooth I hope your mum gets the help she needs

Just when you think this couldn't get any weirder, our local tory mp has launched a Christmas card competition. He wants the children to design a Christmas card for him to send the PM and the rest of the cabinet.
Considering the rampant child poverty in a chunk of his constituency the idea that he wants the kids to design a card for the very people who have pushed them into hunger has made me irrationally angry. It just seems so very dickensian.