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Dear Black People of Mumsnet

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PatricksRum · 14/09/2020 00:23

Following on.

Name the thread poll here.

strawpoll.com/fr4juk62w

Thanks to everyone, black and white who have helpfully contributed.

Thanks to everyone, black and white who have proved exactly why we need this section.

@AMemeByAnyOtherName
@BIWI
@EchoCardioGran
@Quaagars
@Phoenix21

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CuriousFluff · 15/09/2020 19:11

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C130 · 15/09/2020 19:27

@CuriousFluff

We're the same so we have equal opportunities? Oh wait..

Fine but create a white one, create an Asian one, create a mixed race one to.

This is just the type of post which is adding noise, nothing else, and has already been answered elsewhere on the thread.
Gilead · 15/09/2020 19:28

Fine but create a white one, create an Asian one, create a mixed race one to.

Which bit of equity and equality are you not getting? In the main these boards are white and middle class. Most questions and answers are based around white experience. White make up, white hair. Of course this board is needed and it’s indefensible to argue otherwise.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 15/09/2020 19:40

@CuriousFluff

We're the same so we have equal opportunities? Oh wait..

Fine but create a white one, create an Asian one, create a mixed race one to.

Feel free to ask MNHQ to do so.
AMemeByAnyOtherName · 15/09/2020 19:45

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fhhhhhhf · 15/09/2020 19:48

@AMemeByAnyOtherName I think it's lovely that your DM wants to vote.

C130 · 15/09/2020 19:49

I just think that some people who have no desire to see this happen will carry on and on like this. They should not be given the time of day.

AMemeByAnyOtherName · 15/09/2020 19:53

@C130 I'm not sure they'd be able to tell the time even if we gave it to them.

@fhhhhhhf thank you, I was happy to see her getting excited and she liked one of the names more than the others. I hope that she'll start using MN again one day. Being both black and a teacher has so far meant that she hasn't had the best experience on the site.

Which reminds me... we need spaces on MN for police, paramedics, doctors, nurses and firefighters. Bloody teachers

C130 · 15/09/2020 20:08

@AMemeByAnyOtherName I just have a low tolerance for this sort of thing. I am really looking forward to the new section, and do not want to see these posters with their sad agenda trying to derail conversations.

AMemeByAnyOtherName · 15/09/2020 20:27

@C130 it's understandable that your tolerance would be low if you've dealt with something so often that you're sick of the sight of it.

Today I had an idea for a thread I want to create, but it's definitely one for the new board. It made me smile thinking about it. Do you have any thoughts for threads you'd like to see or create?

Splendidseptember · 15/09/2020 21:16

Op has mnhq not set up your board yet? If not how hard can it be?

C130 · 15/09/2020 21:47

@AMemeByAnyOtherName Yes I did think a general thread would be a start, and then maybe other sections could be added later on, depending on what posters want to chat or want advice on. I like anything hair related. 4c lady that I am, and loving it. Happy World Afro Day all!

PatricksRum · 16/09/2020 00:49

@Home2018

Late to the party but I think Black Perspectives allows us to have wider conversations outside of the opressed/marginalised/in contrast to whiteness space.

Take black childrens skin/hair for example, make up, or fashion for larger thighs!

Or course, we can technically discuss anything, anywhere. However, I think it'll be empowering to see ourselves outside of the 'marginalised' realm and our wider conversations as things we simply want to talk about and not always under the lense of minority conversations or BLM.

Much like everyone else I suppose.

Thanks for setting this up.

This was asked of Mumsnet some years back and the idea was ignored.

It's clear the current BLM wave is having impact and in spaces like this, rightly so. As a black woman, it makes me feel safer and more included.

Would you like a code to vote?
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PatricksRum · 16/09/2020 00:50

Thanks for all the supportive messages. Just reading through now.
Will pm you a code for your mam Meme Smile

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PatricksRum · 16/09/2020 00:51

@CuriousFluff

We're the same so we have equal opportunities? Oh wait..

Fine but create a white one, create an Asian one, create a mixed race one to.

[email protected] I'm sure they'd love to create a white section Grin
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Quaagars · 16/09/2020 01:33

Why the heck would we need a white one lol, surely that's MN by default?!
As in nobody knows anyone's colour on here but it's assumed white going by posts and questions, eg the question asked about afro hair care and "go google it"

PatricksRum · 16/09/2020 03:28

@Quaagars

Why the heck would we need a white one lol, surely that's MN by default?! As in nobody knows anyone's colour on here but it's assumed white going by posts and questions, eg the question asked about afro hair care and "go google it"
I wish they would just say, "I'm racist."

These false pretences; Why do you need a black section? Why can't we have a white section? I don't care if you're black, white, purple, green. Stop playing the victim. My life is difficult too. I'm not privileged, I'm poor. We're not all racist.

It's tiring. Lures us into replying. I'm thinking I'd prefer an American approach: I'm racist and I don't care.

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Laiste · 16/09/2020 08:31

I'm guessing it's not been set up yet because folks are still voting on what it should be called. When the voting closes it shall be unveiled hopefully! I'm looking forward to reading :)

Well done PatricksRum

MichaelMumsnet · 16/09/2020 08:47

Hi all.
Firstly, a big thank you to @PatricksRum for all your hard work in advocating for a new board for black Mumsnetters.

We've set up the new board here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/black_mumsnetters

Please feel free to start a topic or two and also let others know about the new section - we're keen for it to be a busy and useful space.

And please do let us know about any further ideas, suggestions or concerns that you may have.

MNHQ

LadyofTheManners · 16/09/2020 08:50

@Phoenix21

No need to apologise *@LadyofTheManners*, if mumsnet had any doubts it’s been proved repeatedly as to why a safe space is required.

I feel Black Perspectives also invites those who may not be black but have Q in relations to mixed children/families, wanting to holiday somewhere like Caribbean etc.

Not that my primary objective is to cater to all but I do strongly believe in inclusion within a safe space.

‘Mums’net was founded on the basis of a safe place for mums. It’s evolved nicely and is inclusive to all, but I also find it ironic that people are using a forum called ‘mumsnet’ to complain that a special interest area is segregating.

Yeah exactly! I wish I had of had a board to ask when my DD had her first kids party. We live in a multicultural area and she had little girls coming with dietary needs due to religion. I didn't know where to ask as I didn't want separate tables as it felt they would be segregated and feel left out! I had to sheepishly ask another mum and felt like a prat! She laughed and said I wasn't the first to ask and she offered a solution that sorted everyone too I think sometimes the fear of approach puts people off, we don't want to cause offence so having a board for hat sort of thing were you would get a response from those who know without the embarrassment factor is brill That and I want a good jerk chicken recipe because the one I got offline was crap compared to a neighbour who cooked for us when I was a kid and my Dad was in hospital ill. Never been able to replicate it.
PatricksRum · 16/09/2020 08:53

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/black_mumsnetters

OUR NEW BOARD IS HERE GUYS

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Quaagars · 16/09/2020 09:37

Brilliant news

Gilead · 16/09/2020 11:30

Good Luck with the new board folks!

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 16/09/2020 11:31

Great news

PatricksRum · 16/09/2020 11:33

Thank you all Smile

Hopefully it will be a learning curve as well as a safe space. Would be great if you joined us.

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