Black section on MN

[PatricksRum]

I think it would be great if Mumsnet could make a black parents section/ section for black users.

It is actually a great black focused board, if you look before getting offended. OP seems to post a few threads aimed at riling people up. I disagree with her views as I think there is enough here for everyone. I did not appreciate her exclusionary approach to who was allowed to post in this new section. So flounce in the other direction, madam.

How is asking for a Black section or ideas for topics supposed to rile people up?

If posters are annoyed by the idea they need to take a long hard look at why that is. OP can't be blamed for that.

@silentpool

It is actually a great black focused board, if you look before getting offended. OP seems to post a few threads aimed at riling people up. I disagree with her views as I think there is enough here for everyone. I did not appreciate her exclusionary approach to who was allowed to post in this new section. So flounce in the other direction, madam.

But why should the OP go elsewhere if she likes being on Mumsnet? And how on earth do you construe their posts as 'riling people up'?

You may well disagree with her views, and that's fine, but to tell her to go somewhere else is beyond offensive. So now who's being exclusionary?

Just because you think there's enough here for everyone does not dictate what other posters might think.

You may as well put up a sign on the front page of Mumsnet saying 'no blacks' - do you have any idea how offensive your posts are?

As for the "exclusionary approach", what?

If you aren't black why would you expect to be included in an area for black posters to chat?

What exactly do you want?

@PatricksRum I'm not going to request a BAME/Global Majority board, primarily because it's not my call as I'm white, but also because I don't want to detract from your specific idea because it seems really necessary.
If any other posters who are BAME would like to propose a Majority Ethnic board I'm happy to add my vote but it's neither appropriate for me to "fight" this in any way nor to suggest something additional which is primarily for people other than me, I feel.
I hope the new section is all you need and want.

@silentpool

It is actually a great black focused board, if you look before getting offended. OP seems to post a few threads aimed at riling people up. I disagree with her views as I think there is enough here for everyone. I did not appreciate her exclusionary approach to who was allowed to post in this new section. So flounce in the other direction, madam.

Flounce in the other direction, on my own thread. Hahaha

I'm not softening my words up when discussing racism. I shall be straight to the point. Don't like it? Flounce (or another f word) off yourself

[quote drspouse]@PatricksRum I'm not going to request a BAME/Global Majority board, primarily because it's not my call as I'm white, but also because I don't want to detract from your specific idea because it seems really necessary.
If any other posters who are BAME would like to propose a Majority Ethnic board I'm happy to add my vote but it's neither appropriate for me to "fight" this in any way nor to suggest something additional which is primarily for people other than me, I feel.
I hope the new section is all you need and want.[/quote]
Start your own thread to discuss that with "BAME" people. This is for a black section.

I am totally, totally shocked there isn't one already.
Hope you get your wish, OP.

@BIWI thats not what I said and you know it. And you won't succeed in browbeating me.

Actually, for example Lipstick Alley has one of the best gossip sections around. I may not be a target user but I love it. So you cannot predict what people are interested in by their ethnic background. But do as you wish.

[quote silentpool]@BIWI thats not what I said and you know it. And you won't succeed in browbeating me.

Actually, for example Lipstick Alley has one of the best gossip sections around. I may not be a target user but I love it. So you cannot predict what people are interested in by their ethnic background. But do as you wish.[/quote]
Well I quoted your own post, so ...

OP, may I suggest Lipstick Alley as an alternative to Mumsnet? I personally would prefer not to see segregation on these boards

OP is a Mnetter. Why should she go elsewhere?
I honestly cannot see the problem with a black board, why are people jumping to segregation?
Surely segregation is when you're forcibly keeping apart others, negatively - this is a POSITIVE thing, a place where people who are black can talk about their culture, their traditional foods/recipes, hair care, things me as someone who is white, British, UK, has absolutely no clue about.
People have Scotsnet. Or LGBT parent boards, or special needs board.
Seriously, how is that different?
It's not like they'd not be be allowed to post in the main boards of MN anymore, just they could post somewhere else for advice other people would know about!
Think it was the other thread someone mentioned doing an AIBU about "my son kissed his teeth at me, AIBU that's rude?"
On the main board they'd get a load of people going "What's that?" " etc from people who wouldn't have a clue what it was or if it was deemed rude (like me who had to go google!)
It makes perfect sense for a board people can get specific advice.

I've held off posting because I'm white. But there have been so many shitty contributions to this thread from white people (the usual "reverse racism"/ "why do you need somewhere special"/ "I think it's exclusionary" crap) that I thought I'd post to say it seems like an excellent idea to me, and I hope it's a huge success and really useful. Not that my opinion matters, but it might counter balance some of the shitty opinions.

(I've seen many threads over the years in chat and AIBU where posters with genuine concerns - e.g. over braids in schools or teachers holding black girls to different standards of behaviour from white girls, which I've seen at first hand in DS's primary school - just get shouted down as "over sensitive" by posters with no idea at all. I can totally see the need for a black section. If it's so in-your-face that I as a white person can see it, I dread to think what it must feel like to be black and on the receiving end of it.)

I'm haven't been riled up by the OP. I can see that she seems to have annoyed the more racist Mnetters, but it's hardly her fault, they get riled up by black people in general.🤷‍♀️

Why are you riled by her posts @silentpool?

NRTFT so apologies if this has been covered but would this section exclude other (visible) minority groups that aren't black? Genuine question.

It could not exclude anybody, that's a poor word choice in this case

but I think that because different ethnic groups have different experiences, cultures etc, there is no reason why say a white traveller would find resonance with the black community. People could be forgiven for assuming the person is black which could affect the results of any discussion ( curly hair problems can be very different for example )

If other communities want space or want to band together for a multi culture space, there is no reason why they can't ask for it to be provided

It does not exclude anyone. It is a space for black people.

If you feel there is a group who need their own board please feel free to ask @MNHQ.

We have requested a black board focused primarily on black issues.

@titnomatani

NRTFT so apologies if this has been covered but would this section exclude other (visible) minority groups that aren't black? Genuine question.

If it really is a genuine question, why not just RTFT?

Isn’t this going backwards and isn’t ‘black people’ a bit generic?

Please could people RTFT before posting questions that have already been answered

@Plantpotpot

Isn’t this going backwards and isn’t ‘black people’ a bit generic?

No and No hth

@Plantpotpot

Isn’t this going backwards and isn’t ‘black people’ a bit generic?

A bit generic?

How so?

@Plantpotpot

Isn’t this going backwards and isn’t ‘black people’ a bit generic?

Why do you think this?

It is a thread being requested by black people for black people.

For the love of god there are some seriously hard of thinking posters on here

For those who are BAME there is a multicultural section already where you can post, chat, whatever.

The op is requesting a section for black users. BLACK. Not white people or any other group. A safe space for discussions about anything and everything, where users can get the same invaluable support and advice like I’ve had over the years from Mumsnet. Like the dog house or Scots net.

Jesus Christ my 4 month old could understand and support this. Maybe regardless of boards etc an IQ test should be administered upon sign up to stop this kind of crap

If only there was a 'like' button @captainjacksparrow ...