Black section on MN

[PatricksRum]

I think it would be great if Mumsnet could make a black parents section/ section for black users.

@EmbarrassedUser we've moved past the dissent now. We're in the planning stages. Any concerns about the idea should be sent directly to MNHQ via email.

@AMemeByAnyOtherName as I mentioned in my post, I'm minority ethnic, not white so no white privilege to check here. I don't think its ok to refer to any group with a sweeping generalisation, that's literally the problem.

*None of that is for the OP to worry about, or for you for that matter unless you're thinking of getting a job working for Mumsnet?

I've never seen posts like yours on any of the other threads asking for specific topics.*

No I'm not thinking of working for MN or ever have done.

As for "none of this is for the OP to worry about" - you're right. I don't dispute that.

The OP (or anyone else) can request as many topics/subs as they like irrespective of financial considerations.

The reason I brought this up was to offer up (based on industry experience) why specifically the request for multiple subs that replicate main site topics and specific moderation are imho likely not to be granted (not to say they they won't and it's for MNHQ to decide) plus in the spirit of wanting such a space within the site to succeed explaining why a single topic to start with is likely to be more effective and gain more traction.

Finally to answer your final point about I've "never seen posts like yours" in respect to requests for new topics, I refer back to the point that I've been consistent in supporting this the creation of this topic but have never before seen a request that is asking not only for a topic but a whole umbrella section that replicates multiple site level subs.

Had I done so, whatever the subject matter of the topic, I would have offered the same opinion.

Why is it relevant whether I'm a premium user OP?

@KenAdams the fact remains that you're not being excluded from a board discussing, say, Afro hair care. It just doesn't concern you. So getting offended and flouncing seems a bit silly, don't you think?

@DeRigueurMortis my guess is that if you're so concerned about the income of MN, one would hope that you're contributing money yourself. Or working for their team sourcing good advertising relationships. Not just popping on to a thread or two and asking people to consider how they're affecting the income of the site.

@DeRigueurMortis

Why is it relevant whether I'm a premium user OP?

You seem very concerned about their finances.

Presumably you've seen the board and article regarding the need to generate profit. And with your "intel" I'm sure you must be contributing to their finances. Are you contributing through subscription o contributing by offering your unwarranted financial advice on a post about ethnic minorities?

[quote AMemeByAnyOtherName]@DeRigueurMortis my guess is that if you're so concerned about the income of MN, one would hope that you're contributing money yourself. Or working for their team sourcing good advertising relationships. Not just popping on to a thread or two and asking people to consider how they're affecting the income of the site. [/quote]

I'd refer you to this section of my previous post.

"The reason I brought this up was to offer up (based on industry experience) why specifically the request for multiple subs that replicate main site topics and specific moderation are imho likely not to be granted (not to say they they won't and it's for MNHQ to decide) plus in the spirit of wanting such a space within the site to succeed explaining why a single topic to start with is likely to be more effective and gain more traction."

In short I'm not at all concerned with MN's financial position in the context you imply.

Then maybe you can stop talking about MNHQ's finances and profits. The OP's already had to deal with a shit ton of derailing.

@ZoeTurtle

Then maybe you can stop talking about MNHQ's finances and profits. The OP's already had to deal with a shit ton of derailing.

I made clear earlier that I was happy to "leave it there" however I also feel I have a right to respond to posts that have misconstrued what I have posted and my motivation, especially when the underlying sub text is that that the topic in question is a factor.

There's a multicultural families topic.
Indeed there is but things like politics, holidays, where to live, and some other issues are relevant to us but not really parenting.
As I've said, if it is just a Black section I'm intending to sit down and listen.
But when, for example, I ask for suggestions on holiday destinations for us where DD won't get stared at, I get a 90% pushback set of replies.

@drspouse

There's a multicultural families topic. Indeed there is but things like politics, holidays, where to live, and some other issues are relevant to us but not really parenting. As I've said, if it is just a Black section I'm intending to sit down and listen. But when, for example, I ask for suggestions on holiday destinations for us where DD won't get stared at, I get a 90% pushback set of replies.

It is going to be black section. That is set in stone.

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You can request a section of your choosing

@june2007

Already we are seeing people being asked to justify there agenda, their race. Are they black enough.

Can you point to where someone has asked if a poster is black enough?

Justifying your agency isn't localised to this thread. It's inevitable when a lot of whataboutery is used.

@june2007

Already we are seeing people being asked to justify there agenda, their race. Are they black enough.

No one has been asked "are they black enough?" Fabrication.

@PatricksRum Why do you need to know if I’m black?

Why do people say such things that need to be heavily moderated by Mumsnet.

Why can't we speak to each other with respect even if we have different opinions.

Mumsnet could then spend their time on positive things like creating the Black section and other sections that may be requested.

I'm sending positive energy to the universe to bounce back to us all!

In this situation, when discussing the creation of a black space, it's important to know that the requests/concerns/opinions are from black users, as that is the demographic it will affect. That way the new board will serve its intended purpose.

sugarlost - thanks for the positivity; let's hope it works!

OP, may I suggest Lipstick Alley as an alternative to Mumsnet? I personally would prefer not to see segregation on these boards. As a foreign non-parent, I already face questions of why I am here but I like to think there is enough in the way of common human experience to get on with here.

I can not believe this thread is still going

I expected it to go:

OP: can we have a black section

Other posters: Good idea

MNHQ: sure

-the end-

Instead it’s been interesting, to put it very fucking mildly.