Black section on MN

[PatricksRum]

I think it would be great if Mumsnet could make a black parents section/ section for black users.

Mehmen, go away and read about white privilege. Then you might begin to understand.

@Mehmen

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3991181-To-worry-most-people-won-t-ever-get-it

If you got a spare moment, please read this thread I started about black people and hair... that may answer your question “Why can’t you ask about beauty hair blah blah on the existing boards”

So... is this a space exclusively for black people to post and to eliminate white posters?

what does that even mean?!

@Cam2020

*Yy Re hair! I see a lot of poets about white people's hair. It would be good to discuss other types of hair. Hair care for black children*

What is to stop anyone from posting about those topics already?

Sounds like segregation to me.

Let me think how I would start a thread

"Hi black people of mumsnet. I mean I'm not excluding white people, I just need some advice from black people."

It would be followed by posts like yourd

Apologies if I offend and I do understand the points re hair etc being very specific to your ethnicity so it does make sense to have a place for that , but it just seems sad that the site isn't inclusive as is, as we can't see the colour of any posters skin.

Sounds like segregation to me

If minorities expecting their own space sounds like segregation to you then I don't think you know what segregation is.

As asked by many a poster - what’s the issue with having a forum where we can discuss what affects us and ensure we receive answers that are both edifying and supportive? If I posted here about how my daughter doesn’t like it when Her classmates touch her Afro without her permission, I can assure you, a good number of posters are not likely to understand my issue, plus those who would may miss my post as it’s going to be on page 9 in about 5 minutes due to lack of posts - on our own forum, a fellow black poster is more likely to see it even on other pages.
There’s a Swahili saying which translated says “The chilli is still in the field and yet you’re claiming it’s burning your tongue” - this is an issue that doesn’t affect you and yet you’re making an issue of it.

I think it's a great idea (I'm white). As a pp (OP?) said, it's tiring having to explain yourself all the time. If a black person wanted to discuss a 'nine night' on the general bereavement board, they would spend loads of time explaining what it was. On a Black board, enough posters will know what it is so they can just discuss the issue at hand. Loads of things that are specific to Black people's lives specifically.

still growing in the fild

Aargh I meant still growing in the field!

I think it's more that minority experiences are unique.

With a disabled child if I wanted parenting advice I go to SN section. Where the threads stay top of active in the section because the people who seek it are those who can comment for experience.

So if you have a style and beauty question - for example - based on being black - if you go into this section your thread will stay current and active rather than be pushed down because it's a minority question not many can or will answer.

It's not about segregation. It's about not being lost in the boards due to minority.

I don't experience the black minority because im white and raised MC in a very white MC area. But I understand that means I'm very much in a majority and anything I lost in general will get loads of answers.

My son has a disability that's prevelance is 1:100,000.

I use a close FB page for this because it gets responses. If I asked a question about it on MN the chances of someone else with same condition seeing it whilst it's active is very low.

BAME people just want somewhere like the LGBT/SN/Cragnet section which is specific. Why so much angst about it?

I'm sorry Patrick you are receiving such horrid and uneducated posts.
I support you.

@Soundofdapolice

The irony is that *@PatricksRum*.

You and white supremacists agree.

That black people should have separate spaces from white people.

I’m sorry you’re having to deal with this nonsense @PatricksRum

It’s just mind boggling to me that people can’t understand.

@Mehmen

I’m sorry but why? If a white person asked the same they’d be uproar. Why can’t you ask about beauty hair blah blah on the existing boards? If it’s cultural then to be fair to all we would need Asian, Eastern European and so on.

Erm...racism? That how protected characteristics work? the default is white. That's the flipping point.

White people dont need to ask for a space to discuss white hairstyles and make up or police racism because white is the default.

(And before we get the white groups who do experience racism complaining, that would not be a "white" issue but an eg Jewish issue)

How would anyone here know what colour you are @Soundofdapolice? Sure you only registered/name changed a couple of hours ago. Your post on this thread is the first under this username.

To the white people racists who are so offended by this idea. Imagine if men said "women shouldn't have Mumsnet, it will be divisive, they shouldn't need their own space".

@Soundofdapolice

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

The difference is the Op wants to have a voice somewhere not be drowned out everywhere ( as now) or banned from existing ( white supremacy)

Yes it would be better if there was no need for a separate board, in the same way as it would be great if we didn't need a feminist board, but that's not the world we live in, and refusing to recognise and respect the differences and difficulties is oppressive racism

@DioneTheDiabolist

How would anyone here know what colour you are *@Soundofdapolice*? Sure you only registered/name changed a couple of hours ago. Your post on this thread is the first under this username.

Thanks for that heads up

I'm white. I find the very fact that some black posters are having to explain why a black space (for want of a better phrase) would be helpful on Mumsnet to other posters really uncomfortable.

A need for this has been identified. Mumsnet need to respond.

@PatricksRum

I took a break from the thread.

Came back and Ffs

WHITE PEOPLE, WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM

The world is centered around white people. I ask for ONE SECTION on ONE SITE and you're still fucking moaning.

I think it shows that some more focussed spaces would be very beneficial - hope that you get what you've suggested

To the white people racists who are so offended by this idea. Imagine if men said "women shouldn't have Mumsnet, it will be divisive, they shouldn't need their own space".

Men post on Mumsnet. Having concerns about separation doesn't mean people are racist.

Sounds like segregation to me.

Haven't RTFT because it would only depress me, sorry, but I think it's a great idea. Somewhere BAME people can discuss their lives experiences without white people explaining to them:

-What they can and can't feel
-What they can and can't ask for
-What did and didn't happen to them

Just imagine that.