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DominaShantotto · 30/08/2020 20:16

My lovely hairdresser was saying that the first week after they added masks to the visors she was having to take beta blockers all day to stop her freaking out that she couldn't breathe.

What kind of a fucking world are we living in when we are having to force ourselves through panic attacks and take bloody powerful medication to keep the neurotic contingents' face straight?! Or just pretty much living unable to access medical care or shopping for fear of the social shaming and mask vigilantees?! It's fucking ridiculous.

I wish wish wish I could wear the hateful things. I'd actually quite like having nice excuses to go wild shopping for pretty fabrics and all things haberdashery. I'd like to be able to just pop into Tesco on the way back from school like I used to do - instead of having to psyche myself up and either take myself to the point of absolute terror and feel off most of the day, or wear a fucking lanyard around my neck and cope with so many stares and glares that the lanyard feels like it weighs me down like a ball and chain. I don't get out anymore - it's grim. It's neverending.

I kind of hope they succeed in shutting the unis down completely - would mean I don't have to run the gauntlet of shame to continue my course. The eyes... the hostile eyes looking at me like I'm not worthy or human - it's me back on that operating table, shaking uncontrollably with shit beeping and me terrified I was going to die - and the medics only interested in the baby (I adore DD1 but her birth was appallingly handled) and that I was just an inconvenient complaining piece of meat. I feel like that inconvenient piece of meaningless meat again these days.

TheOrchidKiller · 30/08/2020 20:41

@DominaShantotto Flowers
The pandemic, & the consequences such as masks, are responsible for triggering all sorts of past traumas. It's awful.

Just got off the phone to DPs. DF is plotting a visit here, which will be wonderful. Only sticking point is DM who has taken a backwards step with the OCD & is washing everything in sight, & going out less than before, even though she says it's irrational. This is not my mum.

Willow2017 · 30/08/2020 21:52

DominaShantotto
It's all shit and it's time the govs admitted it and said enough is enough. Fines for not wearing a useless bit of fabric, closing down businesses, schools like prisons, it's all feeding the self important egotistical arses and some are growing rich from it while others are getting off on thier personal power trip. The rest of us dont matter to them. Fuck em all. Hopefully more people will take a stand against it all in a big way and drown them all out.

Do not let the bastards get you down you are worth more than all of the judgey idiots put together. (((Hugs)))

TheOrchidKiller · 30/08/2020 22:29

In todays good news farting is not spreading the virus

Just as well really.

Willow2017 · 30/08/2020 22:47

Just as well as many people are talking out thier arse these days😃

MxEWeatherwax · 30/08/2020 22:52

My DD has a mask with skulls on, she states it is her in mood when wearing. Have just washed DH disposable mask, it survived. The teenagers around here are moving in packs of about 15 to 20 since the end of lockdown. So if they have it they have already spread it. The R is very low other an a super spreader who managed to close at least 3 pubs. Going out for lunch tomorrow for last day of Eat out offer. So looking forward to having food made for me.

justasking111 · 30/08/2020 23:01

This is what masks were made for.

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 31/08/2020 07:23

Well Cotswold Outdoor can get to fuck, can't they?

WouldBeGood · 31/08/2020 07:28

That’s horrible. On a nicer note, I was in a Tesco yesterday and a staff member was going round, unmasked, pushing a trolley and doing the shopping for an unmarked elderly woman with a walking frame. She was being so lovely to her, it was heartwarming.

DominaShantotto · 31/08/2020 08:23

Tesco staff have been lovely to me- telling me to get the damn mask off when I’ve been struggling

WouldBeGood · 31/08/2020 08:35

@DominaShantotto good to hear 😊

Vintagelovingmum · 31/08/2020 08:55

@TheOrchidKiller I'm with you being surrounded by dementors, one of my closest friends is british living in the US but she was proud at the beginning of not having left the house for 13 weeks at all (except she still went to the shops every week for food). At that point I was pregnant so dh didn't want me going in shops either and stuck with a toddler I almost went mad!
Dh works for an airline and since they've been flying, which has been about 2 months, we haven't heard of one member of cabin crew who has caught it. Told my dementor friend and she said 'the masks must really work then'

We're on the 2 day countdown to nursery now for dd1, I'm going to get so much done! Only problem is we think she's got asthma as she gets a bad cough when running around and in the latest advice if any child shows symptoms they will be isolated in the 'special ppe room' until a parent picks them up, then, government advice says, they aren't allowed back until they have a negative test. Not sure how I feel about testing a 2 yr old possibly multiple times!

ISaySteadyOn · 31/08/2020 08:55

@DominaShantotto, it is ridiculous. I genuinely believe that all this fuss has and will cause more problems than the one it purports to solve.

On the FWR boards which I lurk on and see some of you post on, posters often say that they are posting things for the lurkers. I have started to think of going mask less as something a bit like that. If I do not wear a mask and nothing terrible happens, it means that other people who are also exempt but afraid can see that it's ok. So every time you don't wear a mask, you are, in a way, helping people. That said the anxiety when you go somewhere new is a killer so Flowers

@Dowser, you were right. It is getting easier.

Pixel7777 · 31/08/2020 09:31

The Times is annoying me today. Going on about how non mask wearers are mainly sociopaths and lacking in empathy.

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/refusal-to-wear-a-facemask-linked-to-sociopathy-69zr7hcqh

Em no, what about people who find them triggering and with disabilities etc? And people who know they are not the whole answer?

In my local paper the health person locally is saying remember they are not the main thing, it is people meeting on homes, so don't be complacent thinking as masks are being worn we are OK.

Hasn't been the answer in Spain has it...

Pixel7777 · 31/08/2020 09:38

In the guide to using them, they tell us..

How effective are they in reducing virus transmission?
A study by Paul Hunter, a professor of medicine at the University of East Anglia, suggests that masks can reduce transmission of the disease by an infected person by between 6 and 15 per cent

They may also have a small protective effect for the person wearing the mask “People talk about masks as if they’re the thing that’s going to solve the crisis — they’re not,” Professor Hunter said. “They’re a useful part, but they’re not an alternative to social distancing, and all the other stuff that you have to do.”

Hmm.

Not very high is it. www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/the-dos-and-donts-of-wearing-a-face-covering-t8f3b8pjz

Pixel7777 · 31/08/2020 09:40

The main thing I have noticed, is previously we had to queue to go in the Co-op but now it is a free for all due to masks; now there are queues inside instead.

So, the distancing is going. they give a false sense of security I find. I mean it is nice to to have to wait in the rain, but actually feels more packed inside instead.

TheOrchidKiller · 31/08/2020 09:52

That manager in Cotswold Outdoors : "You can come in to the shop without a mask but we're not serving you." Excuse me?

@Vintagelovingmum it's interesting about the flight crew not catching it. Last day of EOTHO today & no one at DD's work has had it. Staff wear masks, but not the customers.

Sympathy for parents of small children who get asthma & coughs etc.

ISaySteadyOn · 31/08/2020 09:55

@Pixel7777

The Times is annoying me today. Going on about how non mask wearers are mainly sociopaths and lacking in empathy.

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/refusal-to-wear-a-facemask-linked-to-sociopathy-69zr7hcqh

Em no, what about people who find them triggering and with disabilities etc? And people who know they are not the whole answer?

In my local paper the health person locally is saying remember they are not the main thing, it is people meeting on homes, so don't be complacent thinking as masks are being worn we are OK.

Hasn't been the answer in Spain has it...

Well, you know, we inconvenient ASD and dyspraxic types with our sensory issues and anxiety about fitting in with social rules and heart conditions where we have been specifically told not to wear a face mask so we don't end up in hospital (if the hospital could be bothered to treat us), we're just unempathetic sociopaths. Yeah.
110APiccadilly · 31/08/2020 09:57

@DominaShantotto It would be a real shame if you had to drop your course because of the mask issue. Can you to talk to student support and your tutor? At the very least they should know about the problem.

Could you take a year out rather than stopping the course altogether? I'm hopeful that this madness can't persist too much longer - but maybe I'm an optimist.

Incidentally I will be teaching F2F in September. We've been told to wear masks, but the minute a student tells me mine is a problem (and I wouldn't require them to tell me why as their personal medical information is none of my business) it's coming off - and if necessary I will explain carefully to the university that I don't want to be caught up in a disability discrimination case. I certainly won't be enforcing any of the students wearing them either.

PourMeADrink · 31/08/2020 10:05

I keep hoping that people start to see sense when it comes to masks but it doesn't look like it because the vocal Ds keep shouting the loudest Sad

Vintagelovingmum · 31/08/2020 10:09

@Pixel7777 interestingly I would say the opposite for people who don't wear masks,exactly like you say they can be people who have been abused by actual sociopaths!

Even from the beginning,out of a few thousand crew in the whole of the UK, we only know one crew member who has actually had it confirmed. Although there was a really horrible cold/flu everybody at his work had in december and january which we think could have already been it. We think it's strange that there was no outbreak in flight crew who would be the first to come into contact with people travelling out of china

I was thinking surely if masks in shops work why hasn't Wales had a huge spike in cases and doom since they haven't made masks mandatory

KnobChops · 31/08/2020 10:24

I’m getting very fed up with Mumsnet now. Coming to the conclusion it’s used by mostly stay at home, financially secure, anxiety disordered types who are able to and want everyone to stay inside until a cure is found. The amount of anti return to school propaganda being touted on here by people with vested interests has been an eye opener. In the real world other than masks worn by many I see people trying to go about their lives again.

PourMeADrink · 31/08/2020 10:40

@KnobChops

I’m getting very fed up with Mumsnet now. Coming to the conclusion it’s used by mostly stay at home, financially secure, anxiety disordered types who are able to and want everyone to stay inside until a cure is found. The amount of anti return to school propaganda being touted on here by people with vested interests has been an eye opener. In the real world other than masks worn by many I see people trying to go about their lives again.
I do think that it's very easy to scream for lockdowns when your own bubble at home seems very secure. Bet they wouldn't be so keen if their income stopped or they had to pay extra now for the government support for all the businesses and jobs that's have been ruined.

I get fed up of the media thinking most of us have had lots of time to do other things. Ummm lots of us have been working throughout either in or out of the home. WFH isn't about sitting on the sofa doing hobbies and making memories.

Basically it's all shit and the longer this goes on the worse it gets. I am totally fed up with it now.

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