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Where in the England can I buy a decent 3 bed house for £200,000?

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PinkShimmerSparkle · 22/08/2020 17:49

Just that really, I would like it to be in a nice area as well.
Is it even possible?

OP posts:
GreyGardens88 · 24/08/2020 08:22

Saltaire. BD postcode but direct train to Leeds in 15 minutes. And you can walk to the big Asda in Shipley

Immigrantsong · 24/08/2020 08:29

@BarbaraofSeville

Amazes me that people can make such ridiculous statements about somewhere they've never even been

No, the person who thinks all of West Yorkshire is 'rough as fuck' actually lives here.

I'm wondering whether she's never actually left inner city Bradford, where she lives so isn't aware of the diversity of the county, or even more bizarrely, holds such high standards that she genuinely considers places like Ilkley, Adel, all the nice villages and small towns across the county etc to not be acceptably nice places to live.

You are right I live in West Yorkshire. My opinion is based on the following: -The areas mentioned are too few to compensate for all others. -The housing available in those areas is considerably more expensive and designed to keep people of a low income out -West Yorkshire for BAME people like me is a very insular and inhospitable place. Minorities present co exist in their respective cultural groups and integration does not seem to be in place in reality.

I did also explain at the very beginning, that I was talking about specific places within West Yorkshire and did not want to cause offense.

My opinion is made out of living in various places here within the last 21 years. If you are British and local of course you will have a different opinion.

But to me Yorkshire isn't God's own country or a nice place to live. And I do standby my view as that is my experience.

BarbaraofSeville · 24/08/2020 08:29

Plus there's the lovely park, surrounding countryside, Salts Mill galleries etc and lots of lovely coffee shops. A couple of friends lived in Saltaire, said it was really nice.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

BarbaraofSeville · 24/08/2020 08:33

The housing available in those areas is considerably more expensive and designed to keep people of a low income out

But there are plenty of nice places offering suitably sized houses for the OPs budget, which is the point of the thread. It is not necessary to live in Ilkley to live somewhere that's nice to live.

Immigrantsong · 24/08/2020 08:40

@BarbaraofSeville

The housing available in those areas is considerably more expensive and designed to keep people of a low income out

But there are plenty of nice places offering suitably sized houses for the OPs budget, which is the point of the thread. It is not necessary to live in Ilkley to live somewhere that's nice to live.

Having hunted for a house 10 years ago, I couldn't find anything in the nice areas for that budget.

Also like I mentioned a couple of nice areas don't change a lot, esprit they are out if reach.

I completely understand that Wedt Yorkshire is home to a few people here and I don't wish t continue offending them.

I expressed my views based on my experiences.

I also do wish to point out how different it is for immigrants like me not accustomed to how good and bad areas are so close here in the UK.

I don't like the classism and capitalism that make places supposedly good areas to live in. The UK thrives in a system of exclusion. The areas mentioned as good, are also predominantly white with zero diversity.

I don't find West Yorkshire a nice place at all. Even the supposedly nice areas. I can't wait to move.

MrsJBaptiste · 24/08/2020 08:44

@Immigrantsong
But to me Yorkshire isn't God's own country or a nice place to live. And I do standby my view as that is my experience

Any reason you're still here then suffering in this hell hole you call West Yorkshire?

Immigrantsong · 24/08/2020 08:48

[quote MrsJBaptiste]@Immigrantsong
But to me Yorkshire isn't God's own country or a nice place to live. And I do standby my view as that is my experience

Any reason you're still here then suffering in this hell hole you call West Yorkshire?[/quote]
Yes, I can't sell my house.

Bought 10 years ago by a public footpath (not realising the issues attached to this in the UK).

Locals have tried setting the house on fire, had windows broken in, weekly vandalism, antisocial behaviour, racial abuse, disabled abuse and all sorts.

So trust me it isn't due to lack of trying. I would love to move out of this hellhole and leave it to the locals as they have made it clear they don't want my kind here.

Danglingmod · 24/08/2020 08:51

The problem with these threads when they come up is that people suggesting places all over the country that the OP doesn't know (I know she asked for that) but genuinely, I don't think £200k goes that far in the nicer parts of any city, region or county.

Several places mentioned here I know well and you definitely wouldn't get both a nice house and a nice location for £200k. Possibly the very most rural parts of some of these places, Northumberland, other counties, parts of Scotland, Wales etc...but the more rural you are, the more likely your dc are to want to move away when they're older.

Everybody seems to want to live in a peaceful, safe place in the country/by the sea, but with excellent local facilities opportunities and transport links to the rest of the country. Buying what I think of as a decent house in the very nicest part of Newcastle, Liverpool, Nottingham, almost anywhere mentioned is not possible at that price point.

Bluesheep8 · 24/08/2020 08:52

If you are British and local of course you will have a different opinion

Well I am only one of those things in that I am British but I am definitely not local, I relocated.
One of the things I like about West Yorkshire is the fact that it's culturally diverse.
I accept that you've had different experiences though, so as a pp asked, why stay? Especially for 21 years?

Heatherjayne1972 · 24/08/2020 08:55

Worth bearing in mind that where house prices are lower often wages are lower too
Not always but often

Immigrantsong · 24/08/2020 08:57

@Bluesheep8

If you are British and local of course you will have a different opinion

Well I am only one of those things in that I am British but I am definitely not local, I relocated.
One of the things I like about West Yorkshire is the fact that it's culturally diverse.
I accept that you've had different experiences though, so as a pp asked, why stay? Especially for 21 years?

Thank you for sharing your experience.

For the first 11 years we moved around the county renting and working to save for a house.

The next 10 we bought a house and could only afford to buy in Bradford. The house in itself is lovely and wish I could still live in it in a completely different part of the country as it's 3 double bedroom, 3 bathroom, great garden...

But we experienced massive problems with the public footpath and the reaction to us being BAME. I am also disabled so moving is not the easiest.

What this shows is that different factors affect people's experiences and I do hope people here can understand where I am coming from with what I said. We have tried so hard, but nowhere we lived within West Yorkshire welcomed us. After Brexit especially people have been openly racist.

Immigrantsong · 24/08/2020 09:00

@Danglingmod

The problem with these threads when they come up is that people suggesting places all over the country that the OP doesn't know (I know she asked for that) but genuinely, I don't think £200k goes that far in the nicer parts of any city, region or county.

Several places mentioned here I know well and you definitely wouldn't get both a nice house and a nice location for £200k. Possibly the very most rural parts of some of these places, Northumberland, other counties, parts of Scotland, Wales etc...but the more rural you are, the more likely your dc are to want to move away when they're older.

Everybody seems to want to live in a peaceful, safe place in the country/by the sea, but with excellent local facilities opportunities and transport links to the rest of the country. Buying what I think of as a decent house in the very nicest part of Newcastle, Liverpool, Nottingham, almost anywhere mentioned is not possible at that price point.

I completely agree with all you said.
Bluesheep8 · 24/08/2020 09:03

imigrantsong

I am genuinely sorry you've had such bad experiences.

Bluesheep8 · 24/08/2020 09:08

I completely understand that West Yorkshire is home to a few people here and I don't wish t continue offending them.

You haven't offended me. As I said, I'm not FROM here, I relocated here and your opinion is based on your experience. I'm surprised and disappointed to hear it but that doesn't make it any less valid.

BarbaraofSeville · 24/08/2020 09:11

Buying what I think of as a decent house in the very nicest part of Newcastle, Liverpool, Nottingham, almost anywhere mentioned is not possible at that price point

Well of course it's not, but believe it or not, there's a huge middle ground between the subjectively very nicest parts of any particular city and the rough areas with social problems that blight people's lives. And the majority who live in those middle ground areas generally do so quite happily.

I honestly despair of the obsession on Mumsnet with only accepting the very best and if there's any sort of compromise, feeling hard done by.

And as for the most desirable areas of the city where I live, there's still issues. The schools are the most oversubscribed, so if you move there, chances are your DC won't get into the schools that you've paid extra to live near anyway. In non COVID times, the traffic is worst and access to the motorway takes forever. I know a few people who live in areas like Adel, Horsforth, Cookridge and they've all been burgled, sometimes more than once, because guess what, criminals have transport and know where to look for people who have the nicest stuff and are often complacent about security, because they live in a nice area.

I remember a thread where a Mumsnetter needed to move to a nice small town on the east side of Leeds because her DH had got a job there and there were endless posters suggesting that they lived in areas like Horsforth, which would have forced him into a 2 hour round trip each day to commute because they couldn't see past their desire to live in their perceived 'best' area, when they could have found somewhere perfectly nice within 5-10 minutes drive at most that still had lots of nice local amenities and would have been cheaper too. Ridiculous.

MozzchopsThirty · 24/08/2020 09:17

The north east is lovely, I grew up there
Coast is beautiful, Newcastle is great for culture, shopping, architecture and transport is excellent

@riotlady are you from Morpeth? I grew up there. Currently visiting Newcastle but live far far away SadI still miss the north

Signifyingnothing · 24/08/2020 09:18

Telford

MozzchopsThirty · 24/08/2020 09:19

Re the friendliness of the north east, took my teen ds shopping yesterday, he said 'wow the people here are so nice & helpful, it's not like at home'

Northerners and geordies in particular are just lovely

Signifyingnothing · 24/08/2020 09:20

5 bed house for £135,000 Shock
Telford

Immigrantsong · 24/08/2020 09:26

@Bluesheep8

imigrantsong

I am genuinely sorry you've had such bad experiences.

Thank you kindly.

It's been a nightmare. The worst is that we want to be a part of this country and feel like we belong here, but haven't been allowed to do so.

I do consider this my country and it's a real pity things haven't worked out. We did try iut all of West Yorkshire too so we could have an all conclusive idea of things.

If anyone can suggest a place that welcomes foreigners up please let me know. Desperate to move somewhere where we get included and allowed to fit in.

Immigrantsong · 24/08/2020 09:34

@BarbaraofSeville

Buying what I think of as a decent house in the very nicest part of Newcastle, Liverpool, Nottingham, almost anywhere mentioned is not possible at that price point

Well of course it's not, but believe it or not, there's a huge middle ground between the subjectively very nicest parts of any particular city and the rough areas with social problems that blight people's lives. And the majority who live in those middle ground areas generally do so quite happily.

I honestly despair of the obsession on Mumsnet with only accepting the very best and if there's any sort of compromise, feeling hard done by.

And as for the most desirable areas of the city where I live, there's still issues. The schools are the most oversubscribed, so if you move there, chances are your DC won't get into the schools that you've paid extra to live near anyway. In non COVID times, the traffic is worst and access to the motorway takes forever. I know a few people who live in areas like Adel, Horsforth, Cookridge and they've all been burgled, sometimes more than once, because guess what, criminals have transport and know where to look for people who have the nicest stuff and are often complacent about security, because they live in a nice area.

I remember a thread where a Mumsnetter needed to move to a nice small town on the east side of Leeds because her DH had got a job there and there were endless posters suggesting that they lived in areas like Horsforth, which would have forced him into a 2 hour round trip each day to commute because they couldn't see past their desire to live in their perceived 'best' area, when they could have found somewhere perfectly nice within 5-10 minutes drive at most that still had lots of nice local amenities and would have been cheaper too. Ridiculous.

You make some very good points, but wanted to offer my experience as a word if caution to people.

The house we bought 10 years ago was in a brand new development in a lovely culture de sac. So very nice area.

However due to it's proximity to 2 notorious estates and having a public footpath by it we encountered so many issues.

So it's possible and extremely unfortunate to do good research and choose a good property and location, but due to other factors having your life made into hell.

Bluesheep8 · 24/08/2020 09:35

immigrantsong are you able to give any info as to an idea of your country of origin? Also, is work/commute a consideration?

Immigrantsong · 24/08/2020 09:40

@Bluesheep8

immigrantsong are you able to give any info as to an idea of your country of origin? Also, is work/commute a consideration?
I would rather not as it's very identifiable and have been recognized here before and had to ask for posts of mine to be deleted.

I can talk to you via PM though if you want to know.

Yes work and commute is a consideration. I get a taxi provided as a disabled person but have been working from home during Covid as shielding due to my disabilities.

On annual leave now though. My sector is academia.

Thank you

Danglingmod · 24/08/2020 09:44

Yes, and I realised when posting that it sounds massively snobby what I wrote but it's always worth correcting the idea that any property outside of the SE costs about £50k and you can live like a King.

A pp said that in the cheaper parts of the country, salaries are low, too. That's true but in my city (often touted as a cheap place to live) and surrounding desirable villages where, outside of a couple of niche industries, most of the best jobs are public sector and then the obvious things like solicitors etc, there are hundreds and thousands of properties in the 350+/450+/500+ price bracket. A new build small semi with small garden is 225+. A new build small detached is 280+.

NetballHoop · 24/08/2020 10:29

Chapel Allerton in Leeds, 4 bedrooms and lots of other rooms. It's listed as offers in excess of £200,000, but you could always try a cheeky offer.

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