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Words that rhyme in your accent

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SleepingStandingUp · 18/08/2020 11:40

Just said to DS

Count down from 10
Then count back up again

Which rhymed. Then I said it again and it didn't. Which made me think about the nightmare of writing rhyming books for children and the whole giraffe/scarf thing which defiantly doesn't work in my accent.

Also ftr I'm team:
My scone
Is alone
He likes to moan
But it lets his hone
His sculpting of bone.

God I hate teaching my kid phonics
Roll on September

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PurpleSproutingSomething · 21/08/2020 01:06

I teach Read Write Inc at my school (I'm from NW and now live in SW) a phonics scheme. There are red words (non decodable like 'was' 'you' 'said' and one of them came up and it was 'put' now to me put is fully decodable p, u, t. but no apparently in the south they say is almost like 'pat' or something.
So my kids (high EAL) come out with some very funky accents kind of SW/NW/home language hybrids.

Down here bold/bald sound the same.

Made and bed do not rhyme to me.

SleepingStandingUp · 21/08/2020 01:21

Made and bed do not rhyme to me.
Cos you aye sayin it proper

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isabellerossignol · 21/08/2020 01:50

Someone upthread said 'herd' and 'hurd' to differentiate between pronunciations but those are exactly the same to me. As is heard.

The name Craig rhymes with the words egg and vague in my accent. I remember my kids doing these phonics worksheets at school learning the 'e' sound and colouring in pictures of eggs and miming the cracking of an egg and watching little videos, and the sound they learnt as an individual sound didn't bear any resemblance to the eventual sound once it was used in the context of a word in our accent. Complete waste of time and just made learning to read harder than it should be.

Moor and mirror are pronounced the same, as are flour and flower, which both rhyme with far.

SleepingStandingUp · 21/08/2020 01:55

How do you say egg???
The name Craig rhymes with the words egg and vague in my accent

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isabellerossignol · 21/08/2020 01:56

Just exactly like Craig but without the 'cr' sound at the start!

isabellerossignol · 21/08/2020 01:56

Or vague without the v sound...

tabulahrasa · 21/08/2020 02:07

“The name Craig rhymes with the words egg and vague in my accent.”

So... vegg? For vague... or ayg for egg?...

Carl and carol are in fact the same word, and pearl and peril are pretty close to being the same word in my accent.

And yes to girl and squirrel rhyming too.

isabellerossignol · 21/08/2020 02:18

I suppose so. Vay-g, Cray-g and ay-g ? Something like that. All I know is they sound the same.

isabellerossignol · 21/08/2020 02:21

In fact, it's so ingrained that I can't actually comprehend how they don't rhyme in other accents. I'd have to listen to a recording of someone else saying them, to try to understand.

Most of the time on these threads if someone writes words down phonetically I can hear them in my head and work it out. With these particular words, no matter how people try to explain that they differ, I just can't work it out.

Frownette · 21/08/2020 02:44

Aurnt aurrrnt graarse. Ant aunt grass.

Pretty much yokel after that.

alexdgr8 · 21/08/2020 03:00

this has just reminded me, in hosp once, trying to give contact details for someone. an irish therapist repeated the name beryl back to us as if she had heard, berl.
so we kept saying saying, no, beryl.
then we wrote it down. she looked puzzled and said, yes i know: berl.
all the other staff tried to persuade her but we had to give it up and get on with the matter in hand.
i kept thinking of berl ives, who i think was an american male actor.

alexdgr8 · 21/08/2020 03:06

@isabellerossignol

I suppose so. Vay-g, Cray-g and ay-g ? Something like that. All I know is they sound the same.
not being rude, but why do you say egg like that. i have never heard anyone say it like that. surely, it is simply eg, hard g obviously, to rhyme with peg, leg, . oh no, now i'm wondering how you say peg....
isabellerossignol · 21/08/2020 03:07

not being rude, but why do you say egg like that.

Because it's my accent...

isabellerossignol · 21/08/2020 03:09

And yes, egg rhymes with peg and leg in my accent.

alexdgr8 · 21/08/2020 03:21

@Spinachfinger

Scone rhymes with gone. I use short 'a' in bath, laugh, bastard etc.

Singer has got me really perplexed though. If you didn't pronounce the 'g' wouldnt it just sound like 'sinner'? Confused

I'm in the north west, my accent is broad Lancashire.

think of all those words ending in ing. like ending. so sing. the g in that is part of the ing sound. so sing-er. whereas finger is more like fin-ger. i can't really explain it. if you listen to london or southern english you will hear what i mean. i also notice some people say money as if it is mon-ay, instead of mun-ee.
alexdgr8 · 21/08/2020 03:28

@isabellerossignol

And yes, egg rhymes with peg and leg in my accent.
and they all rhyme with Craig and vague ?? ! alright, i'm going out on a limb here, but why don't you try to say it in a more usual way ? are you saying that that short e sound does not exist in your accent. have you done any latin, maybe, et tu brute. et.
isabellerossignol · 21/08/2020 03:47

alright, i'm going out on a limb here, but why don't you try to say it in a more usual way ?

Why would I need to change my accent? Confused

solidaritea · 21/08/2020 08:48

@isabellerossignol

Where are you from? I'm trying to work out your accent making leg and vague rhyme!

tabulahrasa · 21/08/2020 08:52

m.youtube.com/watch?v=5uy0olFArlM

Egg.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=iX-ZjrtYQMg

Vague

m.youtube.com/watch?v=v2qLbfaNanY

Craig

I have a longer ay sound in vague and Craig... but it’s the same basic sound, where egg is definitely just e.

isabellerossignol · 21/08/2020 08:57

[quote solidaritea]@isabellerossignol

Where are you from? I'm trying to work out your accent making leg and vague rhyme![/quote]
Co Antrim

I don't think we use a short 'e' sound much here, like in the 'egg' video linked. But conversely, we don't do the very long 'aay' sound in the 'vague' video. So all those words I mentioned seem to fall somewhere in between.

OchonAgusOchonO · 21/08/2020 10:21

@alexdgr8 - this has just reminded me, in hosp once, trying to give contact details for someone. an irish therapist repeated the name beryl back to us as if she had heard, berl.*

She did hear Berl as that is exactly how I would say it too.

so we kept saying saying, no, beryl

not being rude, but why do you say egg like that. i have never heard anyone say it like that.

alright, i'm going out on a limb here, but why don't you try to say it in a more usual way ?

Based on these 3 comments alone, I think you need to get out and about a bit more. Not all accents are the same. No accent is more correct than another in terms of pronunciation.

tabulahrasa · 21/08/2020 10:27

“I don't think we use a short 'e' sound much here, like in the 'egg' video linked. But conversely, we don't do the very long 'aay' sound in the 'vague' video. So all those words I mentioned seem to fall somewhere in between.”

Huh, interesting... like I said, I actually say the ay in those longer, so I can’t wrap my head round them being anywhere near rhyming with egg.

But when girl rhymes with squirrel and I add extra syllables to loads of words with r followed by a consonant I’d have a cheek to say my way is right tbh, lol

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 21/08/2020 10:27

When I lived in Vancouver they told me that squirrel rhymed with swirl.

tabulahrasa · 21/08/2020 10:31

@Ihaventgottimeforthis

When I lived in Vancouver they told me that squirrel rhymed with swirl.
Yep, in fact if I say them fast enough I’m pretty sure people wouldn’t know which I was saying, rofl
QueSera · 21/08/2020 10:41

Yes ten + again rhyme for me. And owl + towel. And all the Mary, berry etc all rhyme to me.

Also:
Craig + dreg
Laurie + lorry
squirrel + whirl
garage + mirage