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Lose a stone in 21 days - is anyone watching?

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Cheeseandlobster · 12/08/2020 21:43

It just seems like a shameless plug to make Michael Mosley money.

Lots of chat without science "this is good for your erm mental and physical health". Weird comments including that how long you can stand on 1 leg with your eyes shut is reflective of your life expectancy. Showing off how many push ups he can do. And getting his whole family in on it. I usually enjoy programmes like this but not sure about this one.

Anyone else?

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Sally99 · 14/08/2020 13:50

I watched the first episode hoping it would get better but switched off after 10 minutes of episode 2 when wife and son were involved again.

I'm not interested in watching the very dull Mosley family. Mrs M looks like she hasn't washed her hair for a month.

Ihopeyourcakeisshit · 14/08/2020 13:52

I'm interested in the other benefits of keto?
If after a few months in I'll wake up looking like Cindy Crawford I might just be tempted to ditch the Hovis.

OldChinaJug · 14/08/2020 13:56

It's interesting reading this thread.

I agree, the science is changing all the time. And a lot of the dietary advice we currently use is outdated and not based on health at all. It is based on overly simplistic reasoning - eat less fat and you will be less fat. People are starting to come around to the understanding that it is sugar (and therefore carbs in general) that are the problem.

A lot of the advice that is given (eg high fibre) is to ameliorate the effect of a less than healthy diet.

I've been eating low carb for a few months and have already lost weight. My sleep is better, my skin is better and I no longer have aching joints.

Low carb is seen as faddy, whereas people see low fat as sensible. People see cake, biscuits and crisps etc as fine as part of a balanced diet. Yet we don't need any of these to live and, once you stop eating them, your sugar cravings lessen, your taste for sweet stuff lessens and you realise that, actually, they don't need to be part of your diet at all!

People have expressed concern that my low carb 'diet' is unhealthy. And that I'm not eating 'properly'. And yet I eat clean, natural food (meat, fish, lots of green veg and salad, a few berries, and healthy and natural fats). I just make sure that I eat very few carbs and my body gets its energy from fat. I don't eat any over processed food or diet food; I don't eat any low fat; I eat real butter rather than spreads; and I cook in olive oil and lard rather than the 'healthier' sunflower oils. Yet my health is better than it's ever been.

OldChinaJug · 14/08/2020 13:58

And for those saying in the programme that the people don't have a lot to lose, citing only around 3 stones, a 3 stone weight gain took me from the 'normal' range to borderline obese. 3 stones is a lot!

Ihopeyourcakeisshit · 14/08/2020 14:00

I don't wish to be indelicate, but I would be concerned about constipation.

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 14/08/2020 14:04

I think if you drink lots of water you won't get constipated.
I'm looking forward to my knees not aching.

OldChinaJug · 14/08/2020 14:06

And I completely agree that there’s no point in following low carb/Keto unless you understand it fully. Once you see you can’t unsee and there’s no way I’m going back to eating as I was previously

Absolutely.

Shedtheload · 14/08/2020 14:07

I have done low carb before. Maybe some people are lucky and avoid it but I got serious constipation despite drinking more than 3 litres of water a day and eating plenty of veg. Only possible to avoid by taking a laxative in my case but maybe others have different experiences.

AnotherEnigma · 14/08/2020 14:23

@Ihopeyourcakeisshit

I don't wish to be indelicate, but I would be concerned about constipation.
When just starting keto, people can experience either constipation or diarrhea as part of the keto "flu", it should not be an ongoing issue.

Shedtheload,
As I said above constipation should not be an ongoing issue, without more information it is difficult to judge what the issue could be for you. I would suggest carefully monitoring what you are eating to check it is in the right ratio, lots of veg is not necessary to prevent constipation.

beabettermum · 14/08/2020 14:25

Why does anyone need to buy this guy's book to lose weight. You can find low calorie meals on the internet for FREE.

All it takes is a bit of initiative and self discipline.

Shedtheload · 14/08/2020 14:42

AnotherEnigma maybe I wasn’t on it long enough but I think it’s a fairly common complaint because the amount of fibre in meat, egg and fish etc is very low. On an 800 cal diet it would be an even bigger issue I think because the volume of food is so low.

justanotherneighinparadise · 14/08/2020 14:48

I think the cliche is that Keto advocates are sitting around eating bacon all day long. Perhaps some are but my family certainly aren’t. I made a fab chicken curry last night served with mangetout and sautéed mushrooms. Pudding full fat Greek yogurt with blueberries and raspberries.

Lunch for my DP was a ham sandwich (Keto bread) with mustard and lettuce with antipasti on the side. He also had a coffee with cream and a green apple. I certainly haven’t had an issue with constipation and DP hasn’t mentioned it either. I can imagine if you’re only eating meat it could happen. I’m not sure. But I’m not only eating meat. Im eating protein alongside green vegetables and dairy and low carb fruit.

JudyGemstone · 14/08/2020 14:54

@Hammer12

Black tea or coffee is best when fasting. You should really avoid sweeteners outside your eating window as although they aren't sugar they taste sweet which triggers insulin production.

Thank you so much!

The info I've read says you can have tea and coffee just not sweetened
AnotherEnigma · 14/08/2020 16:24

@Shedtheload

AnotherEnigma maybe I wasn’t on it long enough but I think it’s a fairly common complaint because the amount of fibre in meat, egg and fish etc is very low. On an 800 cal diet it would be an even bigger issue I think because the volume of food is so low.
How long were you on it? As I said, it can be an issue early on but never heard anyone suffering past the early stage. You mention 800 kcal, were you eating only that amount of cal?
Shedtheload · 14/08/2020 16:29

No I was never on an 800 cal diet, that was just an observation. I was on a low carb diet for around a month and got pretty bad constipation. I went to the loo circa twice a week if I was lucky. It’s pretty common though I think? I went on quite a lot of forums at the time and lots of people reported similar. I even got some soluble fibre from amazon to add to tea and coffee but it wasn’t as effective as senna.

AnotherEnigma · 14/08/2020 16:30

@justanotherneighinparadise

I think the cliche is that Keto advocates are sitting around eating bacon all day long. Perhaps some are but my family certainly aren’t. I made a fab chicken curry last night served with mangetout and sautéed mushrooms. Pudding full fat Greek yogurt with blueberries and raspberries.

Lunch for my DP was a ham sandwich (Keto bread) with mustard and lettuce with antipasti on the side. He also had a coffee with cream and a green apple. I certainly haven’t had an issue with constipation and DP hasn’t mentioned it either. I can imagine if you’re only eating meat it could happen. I’m not sure. But I’m not only eating meat. Im eating protein alongside green vegetables and dairy and low carb fruit.

Lots of people are carnivore ie. no carbs at all, some definitely only eat meat, some eat cheese, eggs and dairy as well. There does not seem to be any issues with constipation amongst carnivores. I don't eat veg every day.
justanotherneighinparadise · 14/08/2020 16:52

I know even the doctors are slightly in the fence with carnivore but from what the data shows at the moment they can’t find any reason to say it’s bad for health. I prefer the paleo side of things where we would we hunter gatherers evolutionarily, not lions.

Ihopeyourcakeisshit · 14/08/2020 17:03

Keto flu.. constipation...diarrhoea, I must say you're really selling it to me Grin

justanotherneighinparadise · 14/08/2020 17:10

Keto flu is a description of a process where you’re body adapts from burning glucose to burning fat. For some people it’s a few days, for some people it’s a few weeks. For me I gave up sugar and carbs along with caffeine, so I’ve no idea whether it was caffeine withdrawal or sugar withdrawal but I felt like crap for three days.

Diarrhoea- don’t have an issue. Constipation - don’t have an issue.

AnotherEnigma · 14/08/2020 17:57

@justanotherneighinparadise

I know even the doctors are slightly in the fence with carnivore but from what the data shows at the moment they can’t find any reason to say it’s bad for health. I prefer the paleo side of things where we would we hunter gatherers evolutionarily, not lions.
Did you eat paleo previously? I have never been down that road.
AnotherEnigma · 14/08/2020 18:01

@Ihopeyourcakeisshit

Keto flu.. constipation...diarrhoea, I must say you're really selling it to me Grin
I didn't set out to eat in the keto lifestyle, I wasn't overweight at all but was cutting down carbs and fell by chance into keto. I can't say I felt any effects of the keto flu and I put that down to gradually cutting down carbs over about two or three weeks. You can mitigate the keto flu by making sure you use LOTS of salt, preferably the pink himalayan type of salt as that contains the minerals you need.
justanotherneighinparadise · 14/08/2020 18:05

I dabbled with it previously for weight loss but didn’t really lose. For me the fasting is the cornerstone of weight loss. I suspect I’m horribly insulin resistant and have been since I was a teenager. When I was pregnant I failed the 2 hour glucose tolerance test and was asked to come back for the four hour one and passed that. So my suspicion is that I can’t cope with sugar and fail to mop it up quickly so put on weight very easily.

Leflic · 14/08/2020 22:44

For me the reason I got a bit blocked up was not getting hammered every weekend and drinking wine during the week.
I’m regular as you like but I definitely had better poos for for being on the diet.

FritataPatate · 16/08/2020 15:02

Oh and the smugness of the whole Mosley family is quite annoying.

Almost unwatchable: here is my huge mansion; here is my skinny wife; here are my fit kids; here's my big bank balance from you fat lot.

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