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Hello Girls..it’s me again.

Hope your all out and about enjoying this glorious Saturday.

@chocolatesweets

Hi everyone , Met a friend yesterday , very pro lockdown aussie style. I explained the other side of lockdown that no one seems to be talking about except you on here. She said , well you didn't have to listen to the rules from the beginning. Which I thought was true but it's more complicated than that isn't it? I didn't think that comment was fair.

Well even if you didn’t listen to the rules from the beginning, you couldn’t actually go anywhere as it was all shut . Not much rebellion can be carried out standing outside a locked building!

Is anybody worried how easy it has been for the government to implement some of these 'laws'
They could make it law and mandatory to wear pants on your head to walk around next and from what I've seen not many people would object! This blind obedience without asking questions is the real thing to be fearful of

@Vintagelovingmum

Is anybody worried how easy it has been for the government to implement some of these 'laws' They could make it law and mandatory to wear pants on your head to walk around next and from what I've seen not many people would object! This blind obedience without asking questions is the real thing to be fearful of

They wouldn’t only ‘not object’, they’d beg for us to be made to wear them more often, in more places, and for it to continue after the pandemic!

@Vintagelovingmum
This blind obedience without asking questions is the real thing to be fearful of
This blind obedience without asking questions is the real thing to be fearful of
This blind obedience without asking questions is the real thing to be fearful of
This blind obedience without asking questions is the real thing to be fearful of
This blind obedience without asking questions is the real thing to be fearful of
This blind obedience without asking questions is the real thing to be fearful of
This blind obedience without asking questions is the real thing to be fearful of
This blind obedience without asking questions is the real thing to be fearful of
This blind obedience without asking questions is the real thing to be fearful of
This blind obedience without asking questions is the real thing to be fearful of
This blind obedience without asking questions is the real thing to be fearful of
This blind obedience without asking questions is the real thing to be fearful of

Can you say this ten times louder, please? This is what I think is MUCH more dangerous than any virus; for far too many people, Boris is God. It's why I'm making as much noise as I can about it. I'm on to the mask threads regularly to point this out.

That gives me a new idea for a slogan mask or T-shirt: a picture of Boris, captioned "he's not God, you know".

@Vintagelovingmum

Is anybody worried how easy it has been for the government to implement some of these 'laws' They could make it law and mandatory to wear pants on your head to walk around next and from what I've seen not many people would object! This blind obedience without asking questions is the real thing to be fearful of

I totally agree, @Vintagelovingmum. There are days when I think we’re all participating in a giant sociological experiment. One of the things that’s worrying me is the massive gap between what the law actually requires (no more than 30 people in your house if you live in an area not subject to a local lockdown, for instance) and what the guidance says. Often it’s the guidance, not the law, that people on here and elsewhere are shouting about. (Masks in shops, on the other hand, are law but being treated by the police as if they were guidance. Presumably because the government has worked out that they can get people to enforce the rules against each other.) It’s very troubling.

Presumably because the government has worked out that they can get people to enforce the rules against each other.

This, I think, is the worst bit. The government are encouraging mob rule.

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito
Wasn't it cressida dick who hoped people who didn't wear them would be 'shamed' into wearing them

@chocolatesweets
Exactly, it's easy to say that but given that nowhere was open or available to visit I just can't understand how people were supposed to 'rebel' or not listen to the rules. I'm going to admit,heavily pregnant with a 2.5yr old we may have gone out twice a day a couple of times just for a walk up our lane but I didn't think that was too rebellious at the time!

We were talking about in relation to not seeing my grandmother. We didn't know did we?

This, I think, is the worst bit. The government are encouraging mob rule.
Then they can blame people for going batshit crazy on others and say they never wanted that. Win win.

It was indeed Dick @Vintagelovingmum Absolutely disgusting comments from her.

@wanderings you can buy a mask with Boris is a Twat on it, if that helps.

There are days when I think we’re all participating in a giant sociological experiment

Sometimes I think this too! It certainly feels like a real life version of The Truman Show.

And also, every morning, it reminds me of Groundhog Day.

@wanderings

The funny thing is: when I was younger, I used to be a total roolz busybody. I was that child who had to be told not to enforce rules on other people; I'd tell my parents off for crossing at the red man; I was the class snitch at school; and when driving, I'd rage internally every time I saw a rule being broken; and I reported drivers all the time.

Now I'm enjoying watching roolz being broken, it's liberating!

See, I have always had a tendency to break rules, or at least bend them, just out of sheer naughtiness sometimes, to prove I can.

I'm not sure whether its made this current nonsense harder or easier for me.

I've always been a bit roolz-averse too. I hate being told what to do, unless 1. the instruction makes sense 2. it's given in a polite way by someone who isn't being a pain in the arse.

If those two caveats apply, I'm probably cool with it. In the current situation, neither caveat applies.

@Welcometothelifeboatparty

I've always been a bit roolz-averse too. I hate being told what to do, unless 1. the instruction makes sense 2. it's given in a polite way by someone who isn't being a pain in the arse.

If those two caveats apply, I'm probably cool with it. In the current situation, neither caveat applies.

Me too

@Welcometothelifeboatparty

I've always been a bit roolz-averse too. I hate being told what to do, unless 1. the instruction makes sense 2. it's given in a polite way by someone who isn't being a pain in the arse.

If those two caveats apply, I'm probably cool with it. In the current situation, neither caveat applies.

Me too.

I've usually gone down the route of passive resistance. Listen carefully and then, unless what I was told made sense, just do exactly as I was going to do anyway.

It's surprising how often it is never even mentioned - although I have had some ridiculous bollockings in my time - when things haven't gone wrong, just 'NOT WHAT I TOLD YOU TO DO'

Oh yes, IAintentDead I've had loads of those too. In the last job I ever had, it got to the point where I was getting those spectacular blocking's every day. That was the job that persuaded my I'm unemployable, so I've been freelance for 13 years. Now I have a boss who tyts me like a queen and we never argue

Mind you, she's a lay cow. MNs for hours at a time my previous boss played online poker for hours at a time breaking only to buy more naughty underwear online for her adulterous affair

*Lazy cow, not lay cow

@Vintagelovingmum you are right. And the influence of social media has been massive, as we see in the number of teenagers happily following the roolz.

We seem to have collectively lost our ability to think critically.

I've always stuck to the rules but I've started to break them just a little with all this. I 'accidentally' walked out through a visitor centre the other day without my mask on for example. There was no one inside to pass anyway and I was hot/had unwashed hands. It was a very small rebellion but I enjoyed it.

I've come across someone in real life who's lying about being unable to wear a mask. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I'd kind of like to have the nerve to do it myself but that's pushing the rule breaking a bit too far for me. I was quite shocked she admitted it though.

Mostly I just wish I still lived in wales where things appear better.

What is making me feel sad today, is that even though life experiences have taught me how unthinkingly evil many people are, I always try and expect better.

So many people actively wanting to leave under a totalitarian military regime makes me sad.

this blind obedience without asking questions is the real thing to be fearful of

I think people are asking questions or eye rolling behind closed doors in RL - but are going along because they know other people are really scared and becuase frankly they don't need the argo and most of these restictions they can ignore or live with.

There's always a self rightous element trying to police everyone else in every society and I think that element is very loud on many issues currently in ours.

Many people can tolerate masks so for them it's not the huge issue it is for others - and while many are sympathetic they don't often see the attitude many who can't experience so can ignore to a certain extent or minimize plus there are arsholes who seemingly can't understand people's circumsatnces are different- I think there are more on MN than in most other places.

I think as time goes on there'll be less tolerance for all the restrictions as long as cases remain low.

The blind obedience is hard to tolerate, I think, because some of the people who are blindly obedient have the brass neck to categorise all those who are less compliant as 'thick'.

Blind obedience is often not a sign of impressive intelligence or an enquiring mind.

I comply with rules if there is a point to them but go for passive breaking / ignoring if not. DP is very much - that's guidance not the law - and we carried on with our Sunday trips to the countryside for a family walk throughout lockdown. We did put a copy of DS2's DLA assessment letter in the glove compartment to show if challenged though!
At work I have learnt not to comment on pointless rules and just quietly ignore them. Definitely makes life easier. I like the sound of your boss @Welcometothelifeboatparty !

I think branding others as thick who have different outlook or view is a major problem all round in our society.

@Worldgonecrazy

What is making me feel sad today, is that even though life experiences have taught me how unthinkingly evil many people are, I always try and expect better.

So many people actively wanting to leave under a totalitarian military regime makes me sad.

Whilst there are the 'evil' people and the unthinkingly evil ones, I still believe most people are good (if lazy about consideration). Many just want an easy life and others, at the moment, are genuinely scared. The tactics of the government and media have combined to ensure that. Many people haven't got the education to make any sense at all of the figures and rely on the media to translate, which is a recipe for disaster. Others can make sense but are natural catastrophisers, they (or some of them) are also frightened; so frightened that they think there is no getting past this and the only way we will ever learn to live with it is by following firstly the roolz and secondly their own obsessional roolz that they have worked out are necessary. I think many of them are wilfully genuinely incapable of understanding any report, opinion or even statistics that don't back up their theories.

A bit like I wilfully refuse to read anything that catastrophises the situation. Even if it is possibly true, I don't want to know - I'll deal with it if it happens. I am not wasting my time worrying about things that probably won't happen. Like with other risks, I take (what I see as) appropriate precautions and get on with life.

I don't believe worrying about makes any difference. They seem to have a belief that worrying about it and performing (IMO) pointless rituals will somehow mitigate the consequences for them.

I think wearing masks is as much good, and done for the same reason as carrying pomander to mask the smell did during the plague.