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Anti Ds We might be locked out of last thread,..but we will never be totally locked dow 👍

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Dowser · 01/08/2020 13:56

How did that happen?
Taking one for the team 👍

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NannyPhlegm · 03/08/2020 08:05

@skeptile

And you can't make this shit up - there was an internet shutdown just before the new restrictions were announced yesterday - government said it was a cyber attack! Trying to whip up panic. The health minister actually used the terms 'shock and awe' in the press conference, with regard to the intended effect of the new restrictions. They must think we're idiots - we all know the slaughter of the Iraqui people was based on a political lie.
@skeptile I'm shocked, and that's saying something in these times. I watched the minister use the words "shock and awe" on telly and I gasped. The utter arrogance! And, as you say, we all know what happened the last time those words were used.
SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 03/08/2020 08:31

I loved Knives Out! Great film. Though I couldn't get on board with Daniel Craig's accent. Weird.

skeptile · 03/08/2020 09:01

Sorry I haven't tagged/responded to anyone in particular. I've actually had a lovely day here in Melbourne - a glorious winter's day. I'm not complying with the restrictions. I've been out several times - my DS is autistic, and no fucking way is he going to function as a human shield for someone who has arbirtarily been deemed to be 'more' vulnerable, by political edict.

skeptile · 03/08/2020 09:06

The twat premier has actually flagged a potential Stage 5 - saying it would be 'unthinkable', but saying it nonetheless. DH said it's like bloodletting - if it doesn't appear to be 'working', just keep sticking the knife in. Junk science. The premier and his scientific advisors (cut from the same cloth as the Imperial gang) are completely out of control, but seem to be enjoying huge popularity.

skeptile · 03/08/2020 09:06

Apologies for my terrible language...

BogRollBOGOF · 03/08/2020 09:38

Terrible language is fine here. It's very theraputic Grin

It is the lack of big picture and transparancy that is unnerving.

Phase 1, lock down then phased reopening until recently. Whatever your views about the practicalities, there was a message of supressing the curve to keep the NHS coping, and very few would disagree with the underlying goal. No one wanted scenes of people dying untended in the corridors.

But what now? We clearly don't want another massive surge, more exponential growth and back towards 1000 deaths per day and ITU staff working relentlessly.
But what are the goals and thresholds? With general cases so low across the majority of the country, what is the distinction between a localised blip and a genuine, worrying uptick in cases. A clear rationale would be much better than random threats of what liberties could be taken away.

Some people without specific physical concerns are still too terrified to leave their homes after over 4 months, even when people who were shielding are advised to go out (with care). Some people didn't give a fuck from the start. Most are somewhere in between, trying to be more careful about it and don't need terrifying into submission.

Under His Eye.
Blessed be the fruitloops.

skeptile · 03/08/2020 09:45

There is no big picture here - well, it appears that the goalposts have yet again been moved to the goal of virus elimination. That was specifically said NOT to be the goal here in Oz, back in April - 'neither New Zealand nor Sweden' was the big line (lie).

It's like Winston burning the evidence of previous governmental utterances which contradict today's declarations.

Except here we seem to be be happy enough to forget without the need for a furnace.

SockYarn · 03/08/2020 09:51

Hope Wee Nippy doesn't pick up on the over 50s crap! She can sod off.

Well given that wee Nippy celebrated her 50th last week it could mean that she has to stay at home. Every cloud has a silver lining.

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 03/08/2020 10:03

@skeptile

Apologies for my terrible language...
Ha! No need. This is mumsnet: the one with all the swearing.

@IAintentDead the necklace is from the discworld emporium. www.discworldemporium.com/jewellery/174--i-ate-nt-dead-necklace
I'd love it but at £45 it's a bit beyond me right now, as just a treat for me. I might ask for it for Xmas though, I never know what to ask for. If Christmas isn't cancelled, of course Hmm.

Anyone know what happened to the Nandos Covid thermometer thingy? Where are we on that now? I agree with the pp who said we need a clearer map of restrictions Vs cases - though actually I think it should be based on hospitalisations & deaths, rather than cases. Otherwise they can just keep ramping up the testing to produce more positive tests, but if people aren't actually getting sick and dying, what the fuck are we doing?

WouldBeGood · 03/08/2020 10:07

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito yes, surely it’s the consequences of a positive test that are important?

Otherwise we’re all subject to these restrictions for people who are mildly unwell: it’s getting out of hand now.

Allflightscancelled · 03/08/2020 10:08

Morning all! I'm steering clear of all -government propaganda news sites today as my blood pressure can't stand it.

In happier news, my dentistry problem is resolved! They were only promising a temporary filling, which would obvs. have been shit, bit I'd saved the errant gold filling and they said they'd be able to shove it straight back in. So they have, and I'm happy.

They were all totally hazmat-ed up, I had to wait outside the building, and they had four nurses on, each of whom seemed to be responsible for one room and for herding you through it without stopping or touching anything. The weirdness keeps ramping up.

DominaShantotto · 03/08/2020 10:27

We have the Death of Rats plushie from Discworld Emporium. I'm tempted by the cuddly Luggage one as well.

DominaShantotto · 03/08/2020 10:30

Rishi's dishes seems to be a success though - Macdonalds was as heaving as it's possible to be when you can only use one table in three when I popped in for a breakfast earlier.

Allflightscancelled · 03/08/2020 10:32

Rishi's dishes is actually a great idea.

countrygirl99 · 03/08/2020 10:39

@Allflightscancelled I had a temp filling, pending a root canal vs extraction decision. All in serious hazmat wear. Afterwards they ditched the serious PPE while I waited in the waiting room. It was well after hours so just us there and we chatted a bit about the options while the nurse sorted out the admin. Then the dentist said she gets hot under the masks and we all looked at each other and said "shit, forgot to put mask back on" in unison. Dentist laughed and " oh dear, we are all doomed".

Supermarketworker06 · 03/08/2020 10:43

So cross here. Day at home, housework and admin, no problem you'd think?
I've got to ring about my civil service pension, as the answer is not on the website. Answer phone message- we're very busy and short staffed cos of covid, look on the website or email cos we're not taking phone calls unless you're vulnerable.
Sky- why have you massively increased my payment? Answerphone message pretty much as above.
Halifax- query about my mortgage. 3 for 3 here, same answer phone message as above!
Is there a theme here? Not everyone is vulnerable so surely there is the facility to talk to people who want answers to questions that are outside the norm, AND NOT ON THE BLOODY WEBSITE!
And I've not done any housework and I've missed pop master. Bollocks, shit, piss and arse.

ISaySteadyOn · 03/08/2020 10:43

I took DCat to the vet today for her jabs. They took her in in her carrier and brought her out again in her carrier.

She is, I am pleased to say, in good condition. But she feels a bit sorry for herself.

IAintentDead · 03/08/2020 10:45

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

oohhhh I could spend a fortune in there. That is a bit pricey though

ButterMeCrumpets · 03/08/2020 10:50

@Supermarketworker06

So cross here. Day at home, housework and admin, no problem you'd think? I've got to ring about my civil service pension, as the answer is not on the website. Answer phone message- we're very busy and short staffed cos of covid, look on the website or email cos we're not taking phone calls unless you're vulnerable. Sky- why have you massively increased my payment? Answerphone message pretty much as above. Halifax- query about my mortgage. 3 for 3 here, same answer phone message as above! Is there a theme here? Not everyone is vulnerable so surely there is the facility to talk to people who want answers to questions that are outside the norm, AND NOT ON THE BLOODY WEBSITE! And I've not done any housework and I've missed pop master. Bollocks, shit, piss and arse.
I ignore those messages and stay on the line. They have never kicked me off when I finally do get through to a real person.
DominaShantotto · 03/08/2020 10:51

Local papers now going around the supermarkets and counting how many people not wearing masks and if they're wearing disabilities lanyards and basically passing judgement on if their non-masking is "acceptable".

Horrific. (Derby Telegraph and Notts Post are the two I've found so far up to this shit - but I suspect all those in that newspaper group (Reach PLC) will be running exactly the same shit.

Allflightscancelled · 03/08/2020 10:54

I like to sound of your dentist, @countrygirl99 Grin

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 03/08/2020 10:56

@DominaShantotto

Local papers now going around the supermarkets and counting how many people not wearing masks and if they're wearing disabilities lanyards and basically passing judgement on if their non-masking is "acceptable".

Horrific. (Derby Telegraph and Notts Post are the two I've found so far up to this shit - but I suspect all those in that newspaper group (Reach PLC) will be running exactly the same shit.

That's fucking appalling! There's no requirement to wear a fucking lanyard. Awful.
Blobby10 · 03/08/2020 11:08

@ButterMeCrumpets I tried that with those awful answerphone messages that never had the department I needed and noticed that several companies now just cut you off after a certain time!!! John Lewis Customer service was 5 minutes, Gigsberg for refunding concert tickets (yeah I know I'm on a loser with this one) cuts off after 4 minutes, doctors surgery did it after 15 minutes which was really annoying as I was down to caller number 3 in the queue!

MagdaS · 03/08/2020 11:08

Hello! We are on holiday. It seems ever so normal up here in the Yorkshire Dales, pubs open and trading with precautions, NT and EH properties open, even if we have to book. Walking is obviously fine. Apparently the Wensleydale Cheese place is open too, but I’d have to mask up so I don’t much fancy that.

I suppose it’s because we do outdoorsy type stuff when we’re here that it seems normal enough.

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