ADs don't want the greater good, give us our crusty jugglers!

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Here you go all, thought it might be my turn again.

To be fair some/most of the guidelines are a nightmare to follow

@ineedaholidaynow

To be fair some/most of the guidelines are a nightmare to follow

A lot of the guidelines suggest a lot but actually mandate very little (playground guidance is a prime example). I do agree though that they could be clearer in places and they should have been issued earlier in most cases. Saying places can open in 14 days and issuing guidance two days before is not helpful. Nor is constantly changing it.

I found out why there was such a long delay opening our public toilets. They were checking for legionnaires disease.

@BogRollBOGOF
I'd love some proper pets (fish don't count) but DH comes from a family that don't do pets, and as much as I'd love to just sneak a moggy into the house like DM did, I just can't face the extra layer of cleaning up. It's bad enough keeping two sons toilet trainned...

Do it! I did. Well, not so much "sneaked" a cat in but got a child to badger their self-professed cat-hating father so much & put up a protracted campaign so that he caved in eventually.

Guess who loves that cat (almost) the most?

@ineedaholidaynow

To be fair some/most of the guidelines are a nightmare to follow

Some of the guidelines are farcical, but with something simple like playgrounds, why did most find à way to open around 4th July, and some councils are still nearly one month later, handwringing over details like staffing and cleaning when it is clear that all you need is a disclaimer at the gate for everyone to ignore

I've found in several settings that things relax to something more workable after a few weeks.

By the time I went to Waterstones, other than the till, it was business as usual.

With my fitness class, we still cleaned the equipment in our zone, but it simplified to take a bottle if squirty and some kitchen roll after the class. By the time it's left hours/ the next day, and surviving virus would be pretty useless traces anyway.

I was concious about things like touching gates right at the start, especially when my secret routes got "busy", but that wore off by May. The UV is a potent virus destroyer and the chances of being 2 minutes behind a disease ridden rambler and exposing my self via a latch had decreased rapidly.

I didn't see the grim reaper hanging around otherwise empty field, just sheep, lambs, cows, a hare and a couple of buzzards

@justasking111 Actually Legionnaire's Disease is a sensible one to check for in water systems that haven't been used for a while. The bacteria do tend to grow in stagnant water, and then would be transmitted through loos flushing/taps running. Not that I'm an expert ..

@justasking111

I found out why there was such a long delay opening our public toilets. They were checking for legionnaires disease.

Still shut around here. Because peeing in bushes 50m away is so much better for public health

Last week on a High Street there was shit that had been trampled across the pavement and had to dodge. It was either from a sweetcorn loving St Bernard or homo sapien. Bleurgh.

[quote MaudesMum]@justasking111 Actually Legionnaire's Disease is a sensible one to check for in water systems that haven't been used for a while. The bacteria do tend to grow in stagnant water, and then would be transmitted through loos flushing/taps running. Not that I'm an expert ..[/quote]
It's another reason why windscreen wash is useful in cars aside from anti-freeze, as it keeps the water sterile. As the water squirts up and forms smaller droplets, it is possible to inhale legionella.

I still think my council's primary motivation is penny pinching though.

Do wash my hands as soon as I get home now though - wherever I've been!

Back in February I remember Jenny Harries & that doctor Jeremy Vine has on his awful show saying we should do this because it would make a big difference in protecting ourselves.

I do it, but forget sometimes. Who knows if it works, but so far so good.

MaudesMum

@justasking111 Actually Legionnaire's Disease is a sensible one to check for in water systems that haven't been used for a while. The bacteria do tend to grow in stagnant water, and then would be transmitted through loos flushing/taps running. Not that I'm an expert ..

In my last job it was my job to run the taps in the sink in the kitchenette for 10 minutes once or twice a week, to flush out legionella. I took it seriously - I'd had a patient who caught it from their workplace.

Got to admit that sometimes I'd forget to go back & turn the taps off, & the steam was something else!

Schools have compliance checks for legionella every week.

@BogRollBOGOF those buzzards eat carrion - they were keeping an eye on you waiting for your inevitable demise from gate touching 😊

In fact if you have showers etc at home you don’t use for a while it’s a good idea to flush them out before using them again

Really good to see the French PM basically rule out another national lockdown again today, saying that the social, economic and mental health costs are just too high. Interestingly even the Guardian editorial yesterday came out against another "worldwide lockdown", which I think was basically an admission that a UK lockdown couldn't happen either

Yes our ministers are saying the same thing SomewhereEast, we can't afford it.

During lockdown our council FM team visited every building every week to run the taps and flush the toilets to keep legionnaires at bay

I emailed to say about he fire escape at the council pool, not feeling safe also might not be accessible for older people too...will see what they say hopefully they change it. It is silly as they have a spacious lobby and corridors with automatic doors etc.

The local private gym just says health is your own responsibility and try and distance and wipe things. I can't afford the fees though so stuck with the council one for now.

@NothingIsWrong

During lockdown our council FM team visited every building every week to run the taps and flush the toilets to keep legionnaires at bay

Which is the sensible approach! Not just to wait until they’re told they can reopen and say ‘oh we can’t do that, it’s not ready’. FGS they knew they were going to reopen at some point, so it makes sense to keep things maintained.

I think the Covid threads are feeding off each other and everyone else is leaving them to it

@IAintentDead ... absolutely the CV board is mainly a wank-fest of dystopian fantasy now ... apart from a few posters (PatricaHolm is brilliant) no-one has anything very interesting or insightful to add ... I just avoid it all!

@torydeathdrug

I think the Covid threads are feeding off each other and everyone else is leaving them to it

@IAintentDead ... absolutely the CV board is mainly a wank-fest of dystopian fantasy now ... apart from a few posters (PatricaHolm is brilliant) no-one has anything very interesting or insightful to add ... I just avoid it all!

I agree - they are at risk of turning into an echo chamber

Yes you can't even post on positive news without getting abuse. It's a bit sad.

Scotland's schools to reopen fully in a couple of weeks, just in the news. Maybe causing the increased dementoring

I spoke to CAMHS this morning - they said they have to do appointments in "full PPE which is completely inappropriate, pointless, confrontation and alarming for children and young people with mental health difficulties". I'm quoting there. He has referred ds to their community team who don't have to wear PPE but might not be able to access all the services ds might need. Sorry, it's utterly crap but the best we can do

TDD my young nerve is having her appts for cancer over zoom or something like that wonder if that would work for MH...maybe not? Seems a bit OTT doesn't it could they not just distance themselves, not like they need a physical exam is it, or meet in a garden or outside...

niece, I mean, blasted spellcheck thing

Coronavirus: UK lockdown solidarity 'starting to fray'

Prof Robert West from University College London, a member of the behavioural science group which feeds into Sage, said the level of concern people feel about the virus was easing, and was even lower among young people.

He said this level of concern was the "key thing" which encouraged people to take the necessary action to protect their community. "We need to ramp that back up to appropriate levels."

There's someone who'd like the covid boards on here.