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Mascotte · 17/07/2020 09:05

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SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 21/07/2020 17:35

@Orangeblossom78

Can you imagine of the other health campaigns had the tone of this drama though
"lose some fucking weight or you're a granny murdering cunt" you mean?!

"Stay the fuck out of fucking KFC"

Grin
justasking111 · 21/07/2020 17:35

Oh the irony

If the BBC journalists and politicians believe they are addressing the public on twitter Russia and China must be laughing into their vodka and sake.

PinkFondantFancy · 21/07/2020 17:39

"you potato" Grin I'm trying to decide whether to book a UK holiday or not. I feel like if we want a break we should hurry up and have one just in case autumn turns out shite but I don't know if I can face the scrabbling around for something to do if it rains. Confused

Orangeblossom78 · 21/07/2020 17:42

Two years ago don't remember the dementing over this www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/commissioning/flu-and-cold-weather-contributed-towards-50000-excess-winter-deaths-last-year/20037896.article

Killed quite a lot more than this drama so far...and such concern for men as well who are mainly at risk. It's all very strange.

Orangeblossom78 · 21/07/2020 17:44

Haha, imagine the guilting ones, "Think again, you could be at risk of a sudden healthy agonising heart attack" (fast food) type ones as well...

"Cirrhosis of the liver causes vomiting of blood and a dreadful sadly death.."

Along with first person descriptions from the suffers and sad tales from those who had lost people...

BogRollBOGOF · 21/07/2020 17:54

@Orangeblossom78

Two years ago don't remember the dementing over this www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/commissioning/flu-and-cold-weather-contributed-towards-50000-excess-winter-deaths-last-year/20037896.article

Killed quite a lot more than this drama so far...and such concern for men as well who are mainly at risk. It's all very strange.

I've cited 50,000 flu deaths 2018 in discussion, but the dementors I was battling with were arguing that I was arguing against myself about lockdown because the lockdown had prevented CV deaths far exceeding that... I hadn't even mentioned the word lockdown! (It was about it being pointless to introduce masks nòw before it was announced)
Orangeblossom78 · 21/07/2020 17:56

You would just get 'but it's not flu'

Orangeblossom78 · 21/07/2020 17:58

and 'there's a vaccine'. Even though it is guesswork to which strains (which mutate) and not very good in the older people.

justasking111 · 21/07/2020 18:01

There has been such a sense of humour fail in the last year or so, brexit, covid. I think even Michael McIntyre would be booed off a stage if he introduced even a smidgeon of levity into his act.

Drivingdownthe101 · 21/07/2020 18:05

@Orangeblossom78

and 'there's a vaccine'. Even though it is guesswork to which strains (which mutate) and not very good in the older people.
And up to 50,000 people despite there being a vaccine!! Imagine how many people would die of the flu if there wasn’t one.
trappedsincesundaymorn · 21/07/2020 18:05

@Orangeblossom78

You would just get 'but it's not flu'
Unless of course they're talking about the elusive second wave and then it's..."well look what happened with Spanish Flu.....".
LivinLaVidaLoki · 21/07/2020 18:08

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito
"Stay the fuck out of fucking KFC"
😂😂😂😂😂

LivinLaVidaLoki · 21/07/2020 18:09

@trappedsincesundaymorn
I can't believe those misery malakas are still banging on about Spanish fucking flu.

justasking111 · 21/07/2020 18:11

If you are over a certain age you get a more ass kicking flu jab anyway I think. So one size does not fit all.

Orangeblossom78 · 21/07/2020 18:11

Isn't Spanish flu and swine flu still around and now part of general 'flu viruses'- I think the 1968 Asian flu is...

Orangeblossom78 · 21/07/2020 18:13

In the 20th century, three influenza pandemics occurred: Spanish influenza in 1918 (17–100 million deaths), Asian influenza in 1957 (two million deaths), and Hong Kong influenza in 1968 (one million deaths).[15][16][17] The World Health Organization declared an outbreak of a new type of influenza A/H1N1 to be a pandemic in June 2009.[18]

Orangeblossom78 · 21/07/2020 18:13

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza

HeIenaDove · 21/07/2020 18:14

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/disabled-scots-lawyer-disgusted-after-22380425?fbclid=IwAR0kTWJTrE-LAf-DL2YN0JXuvl-0tJ8sKWy5z4MsjiXwfRxyrA1gV_VnhUA

Disabled Scots lawyer 'disgusted' after being harassed and refused entry to shops without face mask
Daniel Donaldson has hidden disabilities and says he has been taken aback by the treatment he has received on the street from strangers

A disabled Scots lawyer claims he has been regularly harassed and abused by strangers for not wearing a face mask in shops.

Daniel Donaldson has hidden respiratory disabilities and is exempt from wearing a mask.

The 40-year-old, who is a disability rights lawyer, says he has been left ‘disgusted’ by the discriminatory treatment directed towards him and others who are permitted to not wear a face covering in public.

He claims he has been confronted by strangers, subjected to vile verbal attacks and refused entry into stores since face masks were made mandatory in shops in Scotland on July 10.

Daniel told the Daily Record: “I have hidden disabilities and underlying medical conditions and therefore I am exempt from wearing a mask.

“However I have been utterly taken aback at the treatment I, and others in similar situations, have experienced since they were made compulsory two weeks ago.

We are being discriminated against and refused access to shops on some occasions, and that is just not acceptable.

“I’m disgusted.

“Just last week I was stopped in John Lewis by a customer who demanded to know where my mask was.

“I said I am exempt and then a further explanation was demanded, to which I told the person to ‘p* off’ because it’s a breach of my privacy.

"Face masks affect my breathing. This raises my respiration. This increases my heart rate. This causes distress. To wear this, I need to take diazepam. In addition to the regular medications, and liquid steroids to help keep my airways open

Daniel also slammed the Scottish Government for “rushing through” confusing legislation to enforce the new rule.

He added: “The problem is, the Scottish Government published this law three hours before it was introduced.

“There was no consultation with disability groups, no taking into account how it would affect them.

"The guidance is confusing, and doesn't make it clear that we don't need medical evidence to prove we are exempt."

Daniel, from Glasgow, says he was desperate to get out and about after being cooped up at home since the end of February.

He has been relishing the easing of restrictions but was not prepared for the amount of people who would challenge him in the street or in shops over his lack of PPE.

Daniel said: “I’m not jumping on the anti-face mask bandwagon here, I just believe people with disabilities who are exempt have the right not to be harassed going about their lives.

“Disabled people are not lepers, we are not going out there to spread the virus, and if staff and other customers are wearing their face masks, they have nothing to worry about, they are protected.

“So I’m just trying to raise a bit of awareness as we all try to get back to a bit of normality because it has been a lonely time for all of us and it’s not fair that some are feeling worry about finally getting to go into shops.”

Daniel, who runs the Disability Law Centre in Glasgow, has been using his organisation’s Facebook page to raise awareness and call shops out for discriminatory treatment.

He has also stepped in when he has witnessed harassment of others.

He added: “I have intervened in a number of incidents and I try to help as much as I can.

“Last week a security guard at a shop in Glasgow was trying to stop a young girl from entering because she didn’t have a mask, even though she was explaining why she couldn't wear one.

“He was intimidating her and I was not happy with his tone to this young girl, another woman said it was disgusting, so I took it up with management and they apologised profusely.

“But we can’t be there to see all these incidents unfold.”

Proof of exemption is also not a suitable solution to the issue, according to Daniel.

He said: “Things like exemption lanyards or so called medical evidence will not work.

“If you put a lanyard on, it’s like putting a big disability sticker on you forehead.

“All we can do for now is raise awareness because the system right now is not working.

“It makes me wary to go out but I will continue to live my life and try to help others do the same.”

A Scottish Government spokesperson said: “As the First Minister has said, no one should be abused or treated in an unacceptable way and those exempt under the regulations should not be made to wear a face covering or denied access to shops.

"Retailers can ask people to wear a face covering, but should be understanding when people tell them they are exempt and we do not expect staff to enforce the wearing of face coverings.

“The guidance on the use of face coverings by the public is contained in the Phase 3 Staying Safe and Protecting others guidance on the Scottish Government website.

This makes clear that it may not be appropriate for those who have a health condition or for disabled people to wear a face covering.

“For those who are not exempt, it is now mandatory to wear a face covering on public transport and in shops or other retail outlets, and we expect face coverings to be worn when in an enclosed public space where it is difficult to maintain two metres physical distance and where there is a risk of close contact with multiple people you do not usually meet.”

Find out more about Daniel's campaign to promote awareness of hidden disabilities here

Orangeblossom78 · 21/07/2020 18:15

Due to the high mutation rate of the virus, a particular influenza vaccine usually confers protection for no more than a few years. Each year, the World Health Organization predicts which strains of the virus are most likely to be circulating in the next year (see Historical annual reformulations of the influenza vaccine), allowing pharmaceutical companies to develop vaccines that will provide the best immunity against these strains.[129] The vaccine is reformulated each season for a few specific flu strains but does not include all the strains active in the world during that season

Quite hit and miss then

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 21/07/2020 18:18

So, in a shocking turn of events, it turns out giving people an excuse to act like nasty twats results in a lot of people acting like nasty twats.

Orangeblossom78 · 21/07/2020 18:24

That reminds me of that awful post on here about a lady on oxygen in the garden centre.

justasking111 · 21/07/2020 18:26

I think the flu vaccine missed in 2018, but hit in 2019. Trying to recall what the nurse said to me last year about it.

justasking111 · 21/07/2020 18:27

If I needed to I keep an inhaler in my bag I would wave that while saying no knickers either.

TheOrchidKiller · 21/07/2020 18:30

@chocolatesweets
"My mum is fed up with my negativity and thinks I should appreciate what I have. She thinks I'm ungrateful. I am desperate for a life. For human interaction. For joy. You all know on here right?"

I would come over & make you a cup of tea if I could, & entertain your twins so you could drink it all while it's hot.

I understand, MIL used to say similar things when I had PND ("Why are you depressed when you've got a beautiful baby & a nice house?" That's why we didn't tell her when I had depression a few years ago).

It's because you are not sadly dead, some people can't see that other things, whatever they are, no matter how trivial* they might seem, might actually be really tough for others to deal with.

*(a life, joy & human interaction are definitely not trivial).

Another day of gloom. We were all offered the antibody test via work. Most people haven't got them- that's a source of doom, apparently.

A tiny number of people have got them- that's a source of doom too, especially the asymptomatic ones because it means they could've spread covid to us all, and we could all be sadly dead by now, even though we're not.

I have mostly tried to keep out of it. I don't have antibodies, I don't actually care. It's not like it changes anything.

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 21/07/2020 18:30

I keep an inhaler in my bag I would wave that while saying no knickers either.

Tempted to borrow one of DH's inhalers for this purpose.... Wink

I won't really as I'm a rule follower by nature, damn damn damn

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