ADs, Corvids and the sequacious masses

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@MovingtoCardiff that's the weird feeling I get. It's so disproportionate.

There was a post on us4themscot about 3 different studies in 3 countries which have found that kids are rarely the ones spreading it. It's adults giving it to kids. No point in putting that on that thread tho. I dont need the shitstorm that would follow 🤔

It's only disproportionate if you imagine this is still about a virus (if it ever was).

The clowns need to be telling us what freedoms we will get in exchange for this massive imposition of muzzles, and FAST. And I don't mean the freedoms which have already been announced.

There's a lot of us feeling very similar today.
I've been having a really good July compared to the months prior, but I'm low on steam today... oh I wonder why...
Mind you, DS1 is having one of those days too... I can't actually blame masks for that

I need to concentrate on my fitness class tonight and our trip to the pub after
I still have good things planned that don't involve shops (or fecking masks)

@sonicbook

I get that many of you will (maybe) be quite educated but I just can't resist!

@sonicbook.

That is so funny. It’s like people think that mums can’t be scientists or epidemiologists 😃

I’m so glad that there are scientists out there who are non dementors but strangely the mainstream media chooses to ignore them.

I’ve also just noticed that the non dementoring scientists being ignored are either women or foreign-sounding. Must be a coincidence

@wanderings

The clowns need to be telling us what freedoms we will get in exchange for this massive imposition of muzzles, and FAST. And I don't mean the freedoms which have already been announced.

Oh dear... no.

These people want to reimpose lockdown, but a proper one this time.

This is a step back into prison.

You are never getting your "freedom" back.

They actually put it in scare quotes now, the absolute psychos.

I just can't understand how this is causing things to grind to a total halt.

I was discussing it yesterday with my husband who is neither an AD or a D, he claims he's "normal" He mentioned the fruit farm of 200 having 73 positive cases and how most were asymptomatic and that's why we are wearing masks because whilst it's not an issue for many people for some it is. Now I don't disagree that for some people this virus is dangerous but how far do we go to protect people? At what point does it end? What if there isn't a vaccine and we don't eradicate it? Are we expected to live like this forever because it might kill some people?

It's all so frustrating. I'm going to end up having to go back to the weekly shop now instead of popping in for bits here and there because I will never remember to take a mask with me everywhere. I have been wondering how to claim I'm exempt, I do have some breathing issues and have done for years. Nothing wrong with me so I'm putting it down to stress but wearing a face covering could end up causing me to feel like I really can't breathe instead of the usual not quite getting enough air feeling.

I do wonder how much of this mask wearing shit is coming over the the US where they are in a very different place to UK and are way more likely to encounter infected people.

Here infection rates keep dropping every week.

I know DH is more pro masks in more situations but he watches a lot of US comedians who do new commentary who are usually anti Trump and pro masks - and while he know US is different I think he's still influenced.

I made the mistake of posting on a car seat thread the other day and someone has just PMed me in concern that I might not know how tall my own child is!

@DominaShantotto I think there is a huge crossover between the sanctimonious car seat people and the dementors.

Certainly the person I know who spent HOURS resarching seats, reading Which reports, watching endless safety videos, lecturing people in Asda's car park about doing it wrong and still even now posts regular things on FB about how back facing is best (her kids are teenagers) is a massive dementor who hasn't been to the shops since February and who is now posting those ridiculous things about your mask being like underwear.

Place marking for if I ever have time to catch up. So depressed by the masks.

@MaudesMum

I like that, *@Wherearemyminions*. In the meantime, just to check I'm not going entirely mad, I've been doing some maths. The COVID-Joinzoe stats says my district has an estimated 593 active cases per million. My district has a population of 112,500. So that works out as: 66 active cases. Even assuming asymptomatic people on top of that, I can't help thinking that the chance of someone breathing over me in a shop is vanishingly small...

And at least half of those are in care homes and unlikely to be shopping in Asda.

Scotland here. I don’t wear mask in shops. No one bothers you

I see some staff wearing mask I seen some not wearing

But it’s really shite seeing people wearing mask. Doesn’t make me feel safe. It just looks and feels miserable The atmosphere is like misery

People touching them fiddling with them yuck

I just can't understand how this is causing things to grind to a total halt

Me neither. I'm beginning to sound like a broken record I think but I just feel like I'm on another planet. I just don't get it.

That is so funny. It’s like people think that mums can’t be scientists or epidemiologists 😃

No, no I'm absolutely certain mums can be anything at all. I just don't believe that there are any scientists or epidemiologists on this thread.

But to be fair this should be a safe space for your musings and believe it or not I genuinely don't want this to descend into a bun right but I couldn't resist that one.

Sorry and goodbye 😃

All the mask wearing just makes me feel like not going to shops.

It’s so joyless. It’s really really horrid. Can’t see people’s faces. It’s like we are robots

If this is to encourage people to go shopping and enjoy browsing don’t think it will work

DH's observation on masks after a trip to Asda was the people mostly don't wear them properly, adjust them constantly, and think their magic mask of immunity means they don't have to social distance or do the other stuff like washing your hands.

I tend to agree.

When I go back to my voluntary position in a charity shop I will NOT be challenging people over mask wearing. They nay have a very genuine reason for not doing it and even if they don't, I'm not the police and it's none of my beeswax.

The people who were constantly ringing 111 to report their neighbour for "flouting the roolz" will be LOVING IT though.

It all feels so joyless. I'm really struggling now with the lack of anything to look forward to. Everything outside work that makes life worth living has disappeared - music, theatre, all our local restaurants. And I'm very frightened by the precedent this sets - are we going to be locking citizens up every time there's an epidemic in future?

Wow I'd best have a word with mumsnet about what data they have on me and have been sharing with other posters given there's one that seems to have stumbled onto the wrong board AND knows what I do for a living!! I'm just a stupid woman though, what would I know. Back to the kitchen sink for me. Must.stop.thinking.for.myself.

Quote from Nicola on today's daily death count - although you can't really call it a death count as nobody has died for SIX DAYS -

"I don't want to stand here and be the voice of doom".

Bit fucking late for that Nikki. You couldn't make it up.

[quote MaxNormal]@LethargicLumpOfLockdownLard here you go, specially for your DH. If you scroll down to Table one you'll see current best estimate fatality rate is 0.0065, or 0.65%. Where on earth has he got 10% from?

www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html[/quote]
Thank you.
I don't know, Facebook somewhere.

Yes I was going to say 0.65% was the figure id seen.

Tonight Matthew I will be "Mask Maker Extraordinaire"

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3967598-To-think-the-government-will-now-have-to-change-plans-for-schools

Another one

What will you all do if masks become compulsory in schools? I don't know if I would be happy sending my DC in.