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ADs, Corvids and the sequacious masses

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Mascotte · 13/07/2020 22:34

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SockYarn · 14/07/2020 13:11

I can't NOT send my kids. They are at secondary school. The last four months has proved they are rubbish at home learning and so am I. I can't work with them clattering around and I am starting a Masters in the autumn.

I'll get them the plastic visors.

NannyPhlegm · 14/07/2020 13:13

@sunlightflower

What will you all do if masks become compulsory in schools? I don't know if I would be happy sending my DC in.
If it means they drop social distancing, I wouldn't care. It's the teacher's headache to make sure they put it on, keep it on, don't lose it, don't swap it, don't drop it in the muck then put it on again, drop it into the loo and then cry. Best of luck to them, I say
Drivingdownthe101 · 14/07/2020 13:14

@sunlightflower

What will you all do if masks become compulsory in schools? I don't know if I would be happy sending my DC in.
Deregister them, go and live with the in laws in Spain for a year and ‘home educate’ (i.e spend our days in the swimming pool Grin). Mine are primary though, and MIL is a retired primary school teacher (private) and DH can work from home so it doesn’t matter where he is.
Drivingdownthe101 · 14/07/2020 13:14

NannyPhlegm our school isn’t enforcing social distancing anyway.

PinkFondantFancy · 14/07/2020 13:19

My school is remarkably calm and seems to plan to go back as close to normal as possible. If they make masks compulsory I'll send them both in with some kind of offensive skull and crossbones bandana safe in the knowledge it'll be over their nose and mouth for a sum total of about 3 mins per day.

They won't stop though until the kids are sprayed with bleach in the way in too, Korean style. One of the school WhatsApp parents shared it as an amazing idea. With no sarcasm.

BogRollBOGOF · 14/07/2020 13:20

[quote Drivingdownthe101]Here we go...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3967504-Should-kids-wear-facemasks-in-school-to-reduce-second-wave-and-more-school-closures[/quote]
I got in nice and early on that one and seem to have at least got it started on a no masks tone...

I've taught many classes that were frankly hard work on behaviour and there are plenty of knobs who'd love the opportunity to fling masks around, or make difficult to detect noises. Then there's the pure distraction of the fidgeting. And the forgetting...
Most teenagers are lovely young human beings, and generally I loved being a teacher and I stopped before the system quashed the love, but all it takes is a bad combination of 2, 3, 4 personalities and it makes a class hard going for everyone else.

Thank goodness my two are still primary for at least a couple of years.

ISaySteadyOn · 14/07/2020 13:36

@sunlightflower

What will you all do if masks become compulsory in schools? I don't know if I would be happy sending my DC in.
Deregister and home educate. I am not having my children muzzled.
Supermarketworker06 · 14/07/2020 13:50

I'm waiting to see how long it'll be before a customer gets arsey with a staff member who chooses, for whatever reason, not to wear a mask. "If I have to wear one why don't you?" etc etc. Any suggestions for a reply? No swearing, mind, i've been told as long as I don't swear I can be "assertive ". My assertive levels have certainly been honed lately!

LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 14/07/2020 13:51

What will you all do if masks become compulsory in schools? I don't know if I would be happy sending my DC in.

Hope they cope - definitely can't have the Y11 at home next year and if asthmatic Ds can't cope buy a visor and hope that's allowed.

Ibake · 14/07/2020 13:54

@Supermarketworker06

I'm waiting to see how long it'll be before a customer gets arsey with a staff member who chooses, for whatever reason, not to wear a mask. "If I have to wear one why don't you?" etc etc. Any suggestions for a reply? No swearing, mind, i've been told as long as I don't swear I can be "assertive ". My assertive levels have certainly been honed lately!
I think they're saying retail workers won't have to? But I would just say 'because you're here for half an hour and I'm on an eight hour shift'
Shodan · 14/07/2020 13:55

@Mascotte I don't know- I can't think of any ceremony that wouldn't come over as kinda poncey Blush I think maybe just start wearing the rings and then wait for people start asking if we got married on the quiet...

Have you thought of anything?

Worldgonecrazy · 14/07/2020 13:55

@sonicbook
No worries. Apologies accepted.

@SockYarn I disagree about the ERF theory.
As someone who used to play with stats and data for a living 😎 my non work related research into car accident injuries and death led me to be very pro ERF to the point of evangelism.

I’m very big on safety, to the point of being that person you don’t want to start chatting to at an event 😷

It’s also that same love of stats and analysis of human behaviours that brought me to the AD threads. The real risks are so much lower than the perceived risks, (especially with masks where my observations indicate that mask wearing will be more harmful than not wearing one for the vast majority of people) and the fear is being deliberately stoked by the media. I’m also observing social media behaviours, especially on anonymous forums, or social media groups where people won’t know everyone such as those for local areas and it’s fascinating in a sick kind of way. We are all being manipulated so easily, even us anti Ds AngryGrin

Shodan · 14/07/2020 13:58

What will you all do if masks become compulsory in schools?

I'd still send ds2 in tbh. But I'd make masks for him and skate as close to the edge as I can in terms of design and choice of fabric/pattern. Skull and crossbones maybe, or the hells angels insignia- anything vaguely threatening really.

Worldgonecrazy · 14/07/2020 13:58

@Supermarketworker06

I would direct the customer to a list of exemptions and remind them it is quite rude to ask such a personal question about a strangers health.

LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 14/07/2020 14:01

Supermarketworker06 get a sunflower lanyard to wave in their face possible accompanied with a very quiet but firm icely polite - I am not under any obligation to dicuss my medical history with a total stranger.

AnxiousElephant77 · 14/07/2020 14:03

Just watching Hancock. Masks do not mean no social distancing.

fartingsparkles · 14/07/2020 14:04

Feeling down today. Think its the mask thing. Maybe I am being thick, but I don't get why going in to a shop where I am not likely to be long, and not likely to get close to anyone for long, requires a mask, especially at this point in proceedings. I feel that if we are forced to wear them, then other 'guidelines' should be relented.

I am going to my local shopping area in a bit for the first time since March.

The 120k winter deaths article being paraded is putting my back too. When you read it, those figures are a worst case scenario with absolutely no mitigations - no social distancing, no hand washing, and most importantly no treatment - cos that's reallllly likely isn't it??

DominaShantotto · 14/07/2020 14:05

@AnxiousElephant77

Just watching Hancock. Masks do not mean no social distancing.
I can't watch.

Have they set Leicester free yet? That one's dropped off the news now they've locked it up.

BubbleIsSTILLNotAFuckingVerb · 14/07/2020 14:08

Oh masks masks masks. The rest of MN is bizarre beyond words in some places. The irony is that reading all that bollocks (and now being told to by the government is really making me not want to wear a mask now Grin I just do not understand particularly the "be prepared to explain yourself disabled people" who the fuck do they think they are?! It's rage and tear inducing in equal measure. Please can I just say, as a mask wearer myself I do not fucking judge ANYONE not wearing one and I certainly don't think they need to fucking justify themselves to anyone else Hmm I also fucking detest the "you owe it to the clinically extremely vulnerable people as you're literally sadly killing them with your selfishness if you don't wear a mask" Well not in my name as they say. I don't expect people to suffer extreme discomfort on my behalf as I'm not some kind of martyr that expects people to suffer themselves as it's better for me. Why do they always have to turn it into some kind of bizarre top trumps (oh yes where mental health is always always at the bottom)

Also, didn't the government publish a guide helpfully saying you can make masks from old socks? Anyone thinking that the argument of tying an old sock round your face - not now mind, in two weeks time! - is a fabulous strategy needs their bumps felt. I want to ask them if they would be happy with a surgeon operating on them wearing an old sock or T shirt on their face as PPE Grin

Gov - "Here is our strategy - tie an old sock round your face in a couple of weeks time"
General public "Yes I will and I expect anyone not wearing an old sock on their face to justify themselves to me if I see them".

Oh yes on that subject, teens. Teens teens teens. FML as they would say Grin I bundled my hair into a giant quiff this morning as it needs washing Blush and DH asked if my hair had been blown backward from the winds caused by all the teenage sighing this morning Wink

AnxiousElephant77 · 14/07/2020 14:09

Reviewing Leicester this week.

BubbleIsSTILLNotAFuckingVerb · 14/07/2020 14:11

@LadyOfTheImprovisedBath

Supermarketworker06 get a sunflower lanyard to wave in their face possible accompanied with a very quiet but firm icely polite - I am not under any obligation to dicuss my medical history with a total stranger.

Or just say "fuck off" Wink My DD wears a mask at work (interacting with the general public) and has an excellent ability to smile while mouthing "fuck off" behind her mask. Apparently it's quite therapeutic. I know one day she'll do it when her mask is not on her face and get sacked Grin

SomewhereEast · 14/07/2020 14:13

Any north of England (especially Yorkshire) people have recommendations for attractions which are just really normal right now? I'm a bit surprised at the number which still have playgrounds shut up or whatever. We were looking at the Yorkshire Wildlife Park but the kids love their playgrounds and half are still shut while the other half steem to have some weird one-child-on-each-thing-at-a-time rule. I just don't want to pay money for a dreary experience

Mascotte · 14/07/2020 14:14

@Shodan, no, I can't think either... don't want it to be like something out of Hello magazine 😃

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DominaShantotto · 14/07/2020 14:14

@AnxiousElephant77

Reviewing Leicester this week.
I don't think they'll let the city out. They've got a nice "comply or go back to end of March" public figurehead of misery there to threaten us all with.

Considering deleting facebook (except I use it to message a few people) to avoid the inevitable mask-shaming. Several people just hit the snooze time out again.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 14/07/2020 14:16

Flamingoland, from what I hear, and the Yorkshire seaside resorts from personal experience!

Castle Howard v normal and play areas are open, Newby Hall they are shut.

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