ADs, Corvids and the sequacious masses

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LuckyMarmite Negativity is OK.

Life is weird and challenging and unpleasant for many people right now. These threads are a good place to vent. We have differing views on a lot of topics, but that's good.

Wearing a mask will be ok for some, awful for others. To most of us it will be yet another thing to get our heads round, and it's a recent announcement so people want, and need, to talk about it.

The positive thing about all these threads is that we can do that here with respect we have for each other.

And one of the best things is how we can swing from feeling down or angry to comparing days out, to mentioning the dog's anal glands.

Thank you I will watch the video in the morning. I have actually had a very exciting day today meeting my birth auntie - I’m adopted (sorry totally off topic!) but amazing.

We didn’t wear masks but we did socially distance.

@LuckyMarmiteLover

Do watch the video I posted
They are worse than useless

www.facebook.com/joshdavvy2/videos/1302686983261405?sfns=mo

@LuckyMarmiteLover

But I think it is a trade - they opened so many things up without any mitigation and now we know what the mitigation is. Trump hates masks and I hate him. Other countries where mask wearing is more accepted are doing better than us and America. Why do people think they don’t help?

Other mask wearing countries doing better then us? Are they though? You can't compare countries because they all count and record differently etc.

If they help then great, id comply with it but then I'd question why it hadn't happened sooner and perhaps we could have had other freedoms sooner.

@LuckyMarmiteLover

We didn’t wear masks but we did socially distance.

And social distancing is still in place, as confirmed by Matt Hancock today. Social distancing is expected on top of mask wearing. No relaxation in rules has been announced due to compulsory wearing of masks.

And actually, wasn’t the uproar about the beach flockings due to the fact that people weren’t socially distancing?

@LuckyMarmiteLover

The video I posted above on how masks are useless is about 4 mins ling

This scary one about how dramatically a child’s co2 levels go dangerously high when wearing a mask is particularly scary is about 4-5 mins long

www.bitchute.com/video/ypLjmXQoLygi/

Evening all. Have been lurking but have never posted before. It's nice to see there are like minded people in these shite times.

I'm in Ireland and we have just been told that face coverings are being made mandatory in shops, pubs (not serving food) supposed to reopen on Monday but now pushed back until the 10th August.

We had 14 new cases today! That is it. 14 we would have been thrilled with that two months ago. All talk of 'flattening the curve' and '12 weeks' gone. It seems like the government are making this shit up as they go along.

Lots of dementors over here too.

Look at how are beautiful cities are being wrecked

Sorry to comment again but I think it seems the virus doesn’t spread outside - thankfully - so beaches, VE celebrations and protests haven’t lead to a spike - thankfully. Maybe hairdressers/pubs/nail bars are slightly more risky, so we need some form of mitigation? I’m an accountant so probably a bit risk averse!

@LuckyMarmiteLover

Sorry to comment again but I think it seems the virus doesn’t spread outside - thankfully - so beaches, VE celebrations and protests haven’t lead to a spike - thankfully. Maybe hairdressers/pubs/nail bars are slightly more risky, so we need some form of mitigation? I’m an accountant so probably a bit risk averse!

Hairdressers and nail bars are using masks anyway. They’re not being mandated in pubs. They’re being mandated in shops. Shops have been open for 6 weeks now, and there has been a steady decline in cases since then. Once someone gives me a reason that makes sense, I will be open to it.

@NowYouListenToMeFella

Welcome and thank you for your input

@DominaShantotto Hold on.
@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito Sorry about your dad. Hope his surgery goes well. That is a cruel situation for you all.

@LuckyMarmiteLover
As you’re an accountant, you’ll understand we can’t keep bleeding money

Again from Keep Britain free

£10bn spent on a failed test and trace system.

£15bn spent on PPE described as an 'enormous waste' of public money.

To date, £190bn has been spent trying to undo the damage that lockdown has inflicted on the UK.

Is this government fit for purpose?

Just sent that video to my DIL who had bought masks for her 3 and 5 year old. Bloody scary.

Thanks for the welcome Dowser.

Simon. Dolan is a businessman fighting for our freedoms

www.independent.co.uk/voices/lockdown-coronavirus-legal-challenge-judicial-review-boris-johnson-matt-hancock-a9607446.html

@LuckyMarmiteLover

I agree that it seems odd to start having to wear masks now but I think that is because we have a crap government who should have introduced them earlier. Most countries have fewer deaths than us and I think this is partially why. I think we need to get used to wearing masks now in advance of winter when infections are likely to increase. I’d love to be wrong though (hopefully please).

NO - they just count differently.

We count anyone that has been in a room where a CV patient may have breathed anytime in the last 2 weeks

As an accountant I can say that the government is not fit for purpose. I didn’t vote for them, this shit or brexit.

@NowYouListenToMeFella
Lovely to have you aboard
@justasking111
It certainly is

My dil is an icu nurse, I need to check with her but I’m pretty sure oxygen levels In the blood only have to go to something like 94 per cent before it starts getting dangerous

@LuckyMarmiteLover

As an accountant I can say that the government is not fit for purpose. I didn’t vote for them, this shit or brexit.

Ditto

Keepbritainfree

The government's lockdown that has closed schools, premises and companies while limiting free movement is the “most sweeping and far-reaching” restriction on fundamental rights since the second world war.

#NeverAgain

@BogRollBOGOF

The roolz of being an AD: We are allowed to vent the small stuff because we are human, and that's life and life matters. We are allowed to vent the big stuff too. We are allowed to politely and eloquently see the world in shades of grey. We're allowed to enjoy ourselves even in a pandemic. We're allowed to cope with dark humour and irreverence, because we are human and life matters.

And that's what brings us together and gives us strength for thread after thread.

Here we are in another dementor cycle. It stings because this one touches us all. It stings because whatever our preferences are about masks, we can see a bigger picture and how others are impacted differently to us, yet it feels like a majority are crowing and gloating at the cost of invisible difficulties. It's not a real majority. The majority sigh quietly and get on with things. They don't have the energy to battle on and on on the same ground.

The dementors will not win. They might temporarily have this little battle, but they will lose the war. There will be a return to something that is very recognisably our old normal. Masks will not be around forever- well I give the plastic ones in landfill 500 years... that'll be a joy for future archaeologists...

As I said last night ^

I'm no fan of masks, I admit that. I get claustrophobic, have auditory processing issues, hate stale humid air and have occasionally had panic attacks when I've been overwhelmed. Generally I'm not an anxious person, but masks touch too many raw nerves for me. Plus I have a child with ASD who is prone to anxiety and masks through communication difficulties with great effort, so it's not fair on him for me to wear one and make his life even harder.

I would always have found the masks concept difficult, but the abstract way this has been done gives me no confidence in the rationale. All the data has continued to trend downwards.

I can see why others find them reasurring even though they are far from it to me.
Across MN (but not within this thread) there has been a lot of vile vitriol directed against people who struggle with mask wearing. (Plus a lot of general nastiness spilling into other unconnected topics) and the double whammy is wearing.
I'm worn from being at home for 4 months.
Going out as I have in recent weeks will be less of an escape than it was.
I don't know how to escape.
This time last week I was looking forwards to my newly booked holiday... which is now a bit less of an escape than it was.

We're allowed to nurse our bruises. The conversation will move on and cycle round. The humour will creep back.

I have no ill will for anyone who feels differently to me (unless they're obnoxious about it which doesn't apply on this thread)

@LuckyMarmiteLover you met your birth auntie?! How brilliant! How was it? Did you have a lot in common?