ADs, Corvids and the sequacious masses

[Mascotte]

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These "statistics" always precede some new measure.

The whole thing is an absolute disgrace. I know I have a vested interest in the wedding industry, but they are completely in the dark. Photographers, Videographer’s, planners, venues, event dressers, florists, cake makers, make up artists, DJs. They represent a whole industry who have absolutely no idea whatsoever whether they will have any businesses left. They’ve lost all their work for this year, you’d have thought. Because allowing people to have legal ceremonies doesn’t correlate with a “wedding”, and so the vast majority of couples, like me, will postpone. We won’t have to pay back deposits to move our dates, they just lose that earning off our wedding for this year and move it to next. It represents billions of pounds in revenue every year, and it makes me so angry. I can go to a pub and mix with randoms, but I can’t have a wedding reception with a group of people whose medical history and contact details I have?

Rant over.

@Mascotte yup absolutely true

Yes to surface thing. Prepare to enter shop by putting mask on and touching it, open door, touch face when removing it on way out. Bleurgh. Just the sheer amount of snot never mind COVID!

@Pleasedontdothat on the plus side, we know these politicians cant see a world beyond the end of their noses and Mr Wanksock has rather a short nose so his 'foreseeable future' would be shorter than the 'foreseeable future' of someone with a Barry Manilow style nose 🤣🤣🤣

And @AnxiousElephant77 I totally agree. It's the fact that the measures are so arbitrary that makes me doubt their efficacy or any actual basis for them.

Plus the sheer disregard for swathes of people who have no idea if ir when their livelihoods will be allowed to restart. It really upsets me.

@AnxiousElephant77 I really don't get the wedding restrictions - if it's a modern couple getting married they will be living together so why the need to wash hands before AND after the ring exchange? Actually why the need to wash hands at all at this point! And don't get me started on the nonsense about dad not walking his daughter up the aisle - presumably they will have travelled to the venue together?! On the plus side, how lovely to be able to use COVID as a reason to keep numbers really low

I wrote to my MP last night. I’m sure it’ll make no difference but I felt I had to do something. My feelings have gone from being gutted for myself to being devastated for all my suppliers.

[quote Allflightscancelled]@NothingIsWrong

Is this (at least partly) because you've changed your meds?I think that's what you said (sorry I've got that wrong I've been AWOL for a few days)[/quote]
Increased dose and added beta blockers.

They help, but sometimes it's not enough.

Just got to keep on keeping on

There’s an announcement on the 21st apparently, however I watched them being asked about it during a sage meeting. One member suggested a wrist band system, whereby your guests wear a coloured wrist band to demonstrate whether they were happy to be hugged, as an example, and if not. So green, yes, hug me, red, stay away you dirty germ ridden bastards.

As ludicrous as that sounds, I was a but hopeful that creative solutions may be discussed. However, they then went to a mathematician member of sage, who barked something about there needing to be ‘eradication’ before any large gatherings of any sort could be considered.

I shudder to think how many people are going to lose their jobs.

Well I have just had my delivery of face visors which I ordered on Amazon.

SO much better than masks. I can breath in one for a start.

I just had a horrendous panic attack in Tescos - was relatively OK - on edge but managing with my headphones in focusing on music until a masked warrior started giving me the evil look for not having one on and I ended up in such a state I could barely speak to pay for my shopping.

Ironically I was in there as I'd gone to the pharmacy bit to pick up a prescription for some better happy pills.

I'm now up to panic attacks before any social interaction. Fun times!

"Wanksock this morning was saying ‘for the foreseeable future’ which makes me want to curl up in a corner and howl"

Yep. Often want to run outside & scream. Did scream in the car once. Didn't help.

The trouble with them saying, " it's just til Christmas," is that we've been here before with having to do these measures for just a few weeks and then it goes on indefinitely. Christmas would become February, and so on. I wouldn't trust them to lift measures when they say they will.

But yes to NothingisWrong saying there is nothing to look forwards to & life feels stuck. Without some light at the end of the tunnel, which they don't then dim, or extend the tunnel, everything is just flat.

The fecking light at the end of the tunnel is socially distancing and wearing a face mask over its head.

@DominaShantotto

Christmas would be great for me, the wedding could go ahead. But why would restrictions be eased at the coldest and busiest time? They’re all full of shit.

"There’s an announcement on the 21st apparently, however I watched them being asked about it during a sage meeting. One member suggested a wrist band system, whereby your guests wear a coloured wrist band to demonstrate whether they were happy to be hugged, as an example, and if not. So green, yes, hug me, red, stay away you dirty germ ridden bastards."

Or we could just, like, ask, each other if we are ok with hugs etc?

"on the plus side, we know these politicians cant see a world beyond the end of their noses"

If they are wearing their masks correctly they won't be able to see their noses at all.

So sorry that so many on here are feeling panicky.

@Allflightscancelled

The supermarket workers thing is utterly made up, I'm sure.

Round here (South Midlands city) it's well known amongst supermarket workers (we know lots, in different large chains) that there haven't been any outbreaks amongst the staff. We have a huge Sainsburys and a huge Tesco nearby. Nothing.

We also have a large Morrisons and a couple of Aldis. Nothing. I realise this isn't a scientific study or anything, but I flat out don't believe Hancock. It's a mistake or a bald lie.

Scientific study or not, it's the same here. To be fair, I'm in the south west and we have a very low incidence of infections in our county. We have a big Morrisons, nothing in there according to one of my friends. None in our store either. Very strange.

@SockYarn I can't believe you want to keep breathing!! So selfish.

In happier news, seems there are some ADs in my town, this was posted on the local page in response to a mask moan

@Blobby10 - absolutely right about funeral directors. I’m employed at a national brand and we are now below expected capacity and planning for a quieter end of year than usual because all the people who would have likely passed away then, died at the peak in March/April.

Dreadfully sad for all the poor souls lost, but increasingly upset for the non-direct losses too.

@Nothingiswrong

I'm really sorry things feel so grim. My DH has generalised anxiety disorder and when it strikes it's awful to watch, and I know it's so much worse for him. He tried to come off the ADs last year at a really stressful time with work and his mum being terminally ill, and it was terrible. Then I insisted he went back on, and he did, at the same dose as before. It made him so much worse because apparently we should have started low and built back up. My fault.

But this is my long winded way of saying I really feel for you, and I know there really is little alternative to gritting your teeth and waiting for the new treatment regime to settle. I wish we could help in the days while you're waiting for that to happen.

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I'm sorry to be a downer but I think that wearing face covering is enforceable by law under the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984. There are a lot of words in it, but Section 45C indicates that the LA has the power to monitor public health risks.

As they've said that there will be exemptions I have no idea who and how they will decide if the exemption is 'valid' or not. But I can't imagine who would want to get involved in that.

Meanwhile people seem to be holding out until the last minute in this neck of the woods. I went into town today as I am on a mission to save Pret. It was busy and I only saw one mask.

@Allflightscancelled

The supermarket workers thing is utterly made up, I'm sure.

Round here (South Midlands city) it's well known amongst supermarket workers (we know lots, in different large chains) that there haven't been any outbreaks amongst the staff. We have a huge Sainsburys and a huge Tesco nearby. Nothing.

We also have a large Morrisons and a couple of Aldis. Nothing. I realise this isn't a scientific study or anything, but I flat out don't believe Hancock. It's a mistake or a bald lie.

Having worked in 2 major supermarkets since last year even at the height of winter with customers coughing all over us and thier shopping before we touched it, licking their fingers before peeling out notes to hand over i don't know a single person who was off with covid. It was a month after the whole thing first started before the store even provided hand gel and useless gloves! Its only fairly recently that plastic screens were brought in. Now in the cafes we have to wear visors behind plastic screens when the possibility of catching the infection from a 3 minute interaction behind a plastic wall has dropped to almost non existant! Plus retail staff do not have to wear masks but if we do shopping after work we do!!! Where is the sense in making customers wear them?

On a better note I was at opticians this morning. Masked up, one at a time in premises as its very small etc. But as i have been using this independent place since god was a boy it was a relief to have the same relaxed normal visit as ever. Laughing at my lovely optician in donated flowery scrubs. He had a mask on but also had a visor so i could pull my mask down for certain procedures and he just put the visor on. All very relaxed and usual chat. He did say the best thing he had read lately was how considerate the virus was staying away till Friday till every one put masks on.😄 All in all nothing like the sterile basic in and out pdq visit I was expecting. To be clear they had a sign up stating thier cleaning procedures after each customer, box for frames you had tried on, usual plastic screen in place etc but totally non dementory.

Masks enforceable by Public Health Act 1984.
Vaccines being developed by Gilead

Whoever is writing the script for 2020 is a shit writer and needs to be less heavy handed with the literary references