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[LadyOfTheImprovisedBath]

New Thread. - Hello.

Interesting! I really don't know who I'll vote for.

I like rishi but it's purely from a selfish pov because without furlough etc horrible things would have happened to us. Though I do tend to think he's the only one with half a brain.

I'm disappointed with Keir starmer because he hasn't really questioned the pm, or even given alternative views. I really thought he'd have something to say about education but... Nope.

@Ibake oh they are good value thank you. I spent ages making single layer pleated fucking made to measure cotton masks for my DC and one only likes wearing the disposable ones Also, sorry about this but I feel Rishi Sunak is actually a bit of a prick, given his voting history (see below) especially as a disabled person. I think as he is fairly "new to the scene" to a lot of people and has talked a good talk (I'll give him that) implementing the furlough scheme, he has adroitly positioned himself as a "good Tory", especially for left leaners.

As a left leaning feminist I am definitely politically homeless and have been for some time sadly.

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/25428/rishisunak/richmondd_%28yorks%29/votes

Wow these are moving faster than ever! And it looks like we're in hiding?!

For those on here who are anti mask, one of the exemptions is ‘if wearing a mask would cause you severe distress’

I am of the opinion that an affront to my freedoms is a cause of severe distress.

All the travel companies seem to have a downloadable no-questions-asked card or screen shot that you can get. I’ve downloaded mine 😃 hurrah no more masks for me 😃😷😷😷😬

Rishi come across as competent though not sure if his popularity will continue when we have to raise taxes.

I've thought for a while to get money and attention from UK government Wales needs to go Conservative or nationalist.

@NannyPhlegm & that poster: that's so cool! Going to get me one too, now.

The thing is, say you have been through some horrific experience that means you don’t want to wear a mask, do you really want to announce your reasons why to a packed bus/shop?

Historically a woolly liberal, hence appalled at Leicester sweat shops, now that is worth waving a placard about, not some 300 year old BLM issue. We live in the here and now so have to sort it out.

Conservative got in here twice, a horrid excuse for a human being but the alternatives just as sketchy so did not vote last time around.

Not voting for plaid cymru that's for sure. The only lady that I know of that's piped up about women's rights in easing the lockdown is conservative. How messed up is that? Liberal?

GeneGenie

Voting is tricky really. I'm usually more conservative minded and Corbyn certainly terrified me. Also, although I know he's a buffoon (most of us have been called the same) but I quite liked Boris, because he's a libertarian at heart (I don't think he was pro lockdown or closing schools until he saw how the wind was blowing with public opinion) and because he speaks his mind. Even if you don't agree with him, you get a sense of personality, which is refreshing. He called David Cameron a 'girly swot' for example, and you've got to like him for that.

Every other party leader in recent years, of all stripes, just says what the party line is and hides behind media training.

So my default decision might be conservative (even though I know we are supposed to vote for our local candidate not the party leader, and even though a tory vote around here is always a wasted vote).

But I don't know. I'm not happy with how this has played out but I'm not sure if it could have been any different with all the vested interests that are involved. And I'm not yet convinced that a change of leader in the Labour party has been enough to turn them into a workable alternative.

So many imponderables.

@Allflightscancelled I know what you mean about Boris. I agree that he didn't want lockdown. It is refreshing for the pm to have some kind of personality however he's almost too "silly" for me to believe he knows what he's doing iyswim. But there again, a stern and boring persona doesn't assure competency either does it?

I dunno. Our local Tory MP has fought for schools opening but our labour council put it off and that's what made me think.... Oh, you aren't standing for what you stand for right now.

Our local Tory MP is a dickhead of the highest order and there’s not a chance in hell I could over put a cross next to his name.
Sadly it’s also a safe Tory seat!

The only Senedd member who seems to be speaking out on lockdown is Neil Hamilton. Oh brave new world!

Yes @BubbleIsNotAFuckingVerb voting records are something I often struggle with. I guess whipping often has a lot to do with it? Also, with someone like Sunak and, indeed any young ambitious MP, do they bend over when required in order to work their way up and then start to effect change from a position of power? Or am I being waaaay too generous there!?

It's just that I find the whip system in some ways pointless in that it's always newsworthy when someone goes against the party so if all they ever do is toe the party line on big issues, why bother having a vote? Don't really profess to understand the ins and outs of parliament though so I could just be being really naive.

While I think Boris is an arrogant twat, I don’t think anyone would have come out of this smelling of roses based on the fact that we were importing cases and it was spreading in the U.K. widely before we realised. At the time no one had any idea whether lockdown would just be a massive overreaction. A lot of the criticism (and much of it is justified) is with the benefit of hindsight. If we had loads of PPE stocked up there would have been riots from the ‘waste of taxpayers money’ and environmental activists. I cannot quite get my head around how the Cheltenham Festival went ahead however.

Yes, mistakes were made but the idea that it would have been better with Corbyn in charge is 😆

Coronavirus in Wales: Face masks 'not a magic bullet' says FM

Face masks are not mandatory in Wales but are recommended in places like public transport.

I do think this is one area Wales is being more sensible.

Yes I think that's what I mean about vested interests. There are people interfering and hampering things to further their own agendas; and I don't even know what those agendas are any more. They seem to be more about pissing off the opposition than representing the interests they supposedly stand for. It's hard to respect any of them, really.

@KaronAVyrus

The thing is, say you have been through some horrific experience that means you don’t want to wear a mask, do you really want to announce your reasons why to a packed bus/shop?

@KaronAVyrus

It says in the guidance that you don’t have to say why you won’t or can’t wear one and they are not allowed to ask.

It’s a sad truth that those wearing masks the most incorrectly, that is those that can’t afford a clean one for each use, are the ones most likely to be lacking in the understanding of how to wear them correctly, and amongst the most vulnerable to bacterial and other non Covid chest and throat or skin infection from incorrect use.

@BlackberryViolet what about people who lip read, don't they matter anymore?

I asked about this at work. The official advice was to write everything down for the person. I pointed out that they can't read, and their visual impairment combined with the mental distress they're feeling renders any pictorial form of communication useless, & likely to be thrown at me.

But that's not important, only covid matters.

The see-through masks don't meet PHE standards so we won't be getting those.

I also heard that on the radio - the experts who come out with this don't understand the challenges of real life for so many people, & their solutions aren't always practical.

the idea that it would have been better with Corbyn in charge

I've seen that on MN - and wonder other than wishful thinking what that was based on certainly Welsh labour haven't been outstanding.

I did wonder if it was my age making the current crop of politicians seem so poor.

Cheers, @Ibake!

Stansted, Gatwick, Heathrow, unlimited entry to the UK, London was thrown under the bus imo.

Leeds uni. students the day we cleared out sons rooms 25th March, chinese arriving back at his student block in large numbers we watched them pulling their suitcases past our car we decided the world had gone mad.

I'm centre left politically, but am socially and fiscally conservative (both small and big C). I know Blair is a bad word at the moment, but I am a Blair babe really, when you pull back the layer.

The next Westminster election might be 4 years away, but the next Senedd election is next May! I voted Labour last time, but I'll be damned if they get my vote this time round. It'll be a vote for the Tories chez Phlegm.

Keir Starmer.......I had such high hopes for him, but he's been very reluctant to rock the boat. Not one word about education and the children being made into social pariahs. The media goes on about him being forensic. Sorry, but I don't see it, and I watch PMQs every week. My other half says to give him a chance to settle into his role. Uh-huh, no way. We're in a crisis and if he can't do his fricking job in a crisis, then what use is he?!

@110APiccadilly

The only Senedd member who seems to be speaking out on lockdown is Neil Hamilton. Oh brave new world!

Neil Hamilton as in cash for questions, sleaze and the scary wife Christine?

Wondered where he'd gone!