Ghislaine Maxwell has been arrested.

[ArriettyJones]

By the FBI.

Some good need for a change.

She's in a very dicey position, lots of very powerful people have a big incentive for her to be disposed of
It's all very mutually assured destruction isn't it

What doesn't make a lot of sense to me is that if she gets a much shorter sentence for revealing bigger fish, surely she'd be in much more danger once she's free?! Even if the big names get jailed, they will use all their resources and henchmen to get revenge. Surely the safest place for her is inside a maximum security prison because her enemies can't get inside either.

caught between a very sharp Rock and a very hard hard place

Having watched the documentary on Netflix it was Clinton’s name that appeared to be associated with him more than Trump

Not that I think it would stop people voting for Trump.

I think apart from Prince Andrew it’s more likely to be big names investors or those we are not familiar with who hold a lot of power

Even if the big names get jailed, they will use all their resources and henchmen to get revenge. Surely the safest place for her is inside a maximum security prison because her enemies can't get inside either.

Do you think they don't have influence inside prisons? Of course they do. She would be extremely vulnerable in prison if the guards are persuaded to look the other way and switch the cameras off when she 'commits suicide'... like they did when Epstein did.

I don't believe for one second that he killed himself.

Very pleased she's been arrested. Recently watched the documentary on Netflix, really shocking how these things become normalised and the extent of the cover up.

Likewise Athlete A.

@User214934514

What doesn't make a lot of sense to me is that if she gets a much shorter sentence for revealing bigger fish, surely she'd be in much more danger once she's free?! Even if the big names get jailed, they will use all their resources and henchmen to get revenge. Surely the safest place for her is inside a maximum security prison because her enemies can't get inside either.

I'm not so sure, it didn't help Geoffrey Epstein

@SeaEagleFeather

As someone on Twitter quite rightly remarked: It says a lot about the British Monarchy that the Harry&Meghan situation was viewed as a major crisis by them and the Prince Andrew situation was not

Ahhhhh, twitter logic

The question is still valid, no matter where it was made.

Never thought I'd see Twitter being straw-manned.

There is no question. The above was a statement.

There is no 'straw manned'. I quoted and responded to what was written.

In this case the medium is the message and the message is simply wrong. Anyone who thinks there was no crisis must have been asleep during the aftermath of Andrew's interview.

Her family must be so proud of her.
Not !!!!

@LadyEloise

Her family must be so proud of her. Not !!!!

When your Dad is the "bouncing Czech" whose participation in Nazi atrocities was never quite dismissed and who managed single handedly (well with your brothers) to condemn hundreds of pensioners to penury, you really have to go some to be more despised.

Now I write that out, I find it astounding Robert Maxwell was never knighted. Maybe he was an over achiever ?

It may be she was granted some kind of immunity when Epstein went to jail originally. Her lawyers will I'm sure have all the details.

@DGRossetti Yes you are right, but wasn't her mother, despite being raised a Christian- father Protestant, mother Catholic- very involved in writing about the Holocaust and bringing it to people's attention ?

In this case the medium is the message and the message is simply wrong. Anyone who thinks there was no crisis must have been asleep during the aftermath of Andrew's interview.

The mere fact that some kind of 'crisis' only happened after Andrew had been given enough rope to hang himself - which he did - is in itself damning as hell. Andrew was openly best buddies with and protective of convicted paedophile Epstein and the Monarchy thought nothing of it. Says it all, really.

They were forced into 'oh this is really not great, Andrew' posturing by public outrage, not by some grand insight that the rape of underage working class girls is not ok. I very much doubt they can wrap their head around why there was public outrage, even now. I mean, it is not like this had been an issue for the past centuries.

@deepwatersolo

In this case the medium is the message and the message is simply wrong. Anyone who thinks there was no crisis must have been asleep during the aftermath of Andrew's interview.

The mere fact that some kind of 'crisis' only happened after Andrew had been given enough rope to hang himself - which he did - is in itself damning as hell. Andrew was openly best buddies with and protective of convicted paedophile Epstein and the Monarchy thought nothing of it. Says it all, really.

They were forced into 'oh this is really not great, Andrew' posturing by public outrage, not by some grand insight that the rape of underage working class girls is not ok. I very much doubt they can wrap their head around why there was public outrage, even now. I mean, it is not like this had been an issue for the past centuries.

What had been an issue 'for the past centuries'? Public outrage? You're wrong about that. Remember Edward VIII?

Your think he should have been forced to retire because of his friendship with Epstein and the photo of Virginia Roberts? He has many dodgy friends. Photos of the royals are faked every day and some people make a living out of it - although I'm not saying that one was faked. He is unsavoury and arrogant but these aren't reasons to remove him. The reason only came when he bungled the interview. He isn't a soap actor. You are mistaking the royal family for celebs who can be sacked when the cancel culture on twitter says so. An understanding of the real world would help.

Read the Vanity Fair piece.

All very dodgy. Bill Clinton implicated - he flew in Epstein's private jet at least 26 times.

Am I getting her dad mixed up with someone else? I thought he was brought up an Orthodox Jew and escaped the Nazis?

EachandEveryone
Yes her dad escaped the Nazis.
Her mother was raised a Christian- Ghislaine's grandparents were Protestant and Catholic. Elizabeth, Ghislaine's mother wrote about the Holocaust.

“ When your Dad is the "bouncing Czech" whose participation in Nazi atrocities was never quite dismissed” I dot understand that bit

You are mistaking the royal family for celebs who can be sacked when the cancel culture on twitter says so. An understanding of the real world would help

you must have been so very surprised when Andrew was forced to retire from Royal Duties and Weinstein was tumbled. Your real world suddenly didn't quite correspond to the (admittedly very surprising) events.

“ When your Dad is the "bouncing Czech" whose participation in Nazi atrocities was never quite dismissed” I don't understand that bit

www.irishtimes.com/news/maxwell-faced-war-crime-claim-at-time-of-death-1.774978

Why would I have been so very surprised?

I stated above that Andrew is unsavoury and arrogant. You must have missed that.

I had no idea who Weinstein was before the allegations started.

You've seized on the second sentence you quoted without reading the first. It specifically referred to the cancel culture which the previous poster advocated.

What had been an issue 'for the past centuries'? Public outrage? You're wrong about that. Remember Edward VIII?

I parsed that as the issue was "the rape of underage working class girls".

And the poster is right. It wasn't an issue in previous centuries and Edward VIII's abdication had nothing to do with the rape of underage working class girls.

Im still not reading it right Rossetti. Why does that make him a participant in what the Nazis were doing when he himself escaped from them as a youngster? Sorry, its been a long day at work 🙂

@PotholeParadise

What had been an issue 'for the past centuries'? Public outrage? You're wrong about that. Remember Edward VIII?

I parsed that as the issue was "the rape of underage working class girls".

And the poster is right. It wasn't an issue in previous centuries and Edward VIII's abdication had nothing to do with the rape of underage working class girls.

No, Edward VIII's abdication had nothing to do with the rape of underage working class girls (although Virginia Roberts was of age when she was in London).

But it did have plenty to do with public outrage.

Not sure why you were parsing as the issue is substitution. 'This' in the following sentence seems to mean 'public outrage'.

You are mistaking the royal family for celebs who can be sacked when the cancel culture on twitter says so. An understanding of the real world would help.

Acknowledging that the Royal Family feels untouchable and only threatened by 'mixing with the plebs' (for it might give someone the idea that normal rules appy to them) is pretty much the epitome of 'understanding the real world'. You know, that real world that can usually end the unaccountable behaviour of monarchies only by 1789-type events.