Bournemouth beach - “Major incident”

[BebeGlazer]

The local police and council have now declared that Bournemouth beach is scene of “major incident” because people will not stay away. Overcrowding, littering, desperately dangerous parking.

www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18541911.bournemouth-beach-bcp-council-declares-major-incident/

Please, please, think kindly before travelling to small seaside towns at the moment. We cannot cope.

@wildone84 I will gladly join you, the more the merrier right? Heck, I'm sure half a million of us would be welcomed with open arms. I'll chip into the fund towards Boston's local economy of course

Yes bring your bottles of urine and your used sanitary products ladies!! Boston will understand. It's our treat to ourselves after isolation. She could even band together with some lucky volunteers and furloughed workers to clean up all our shit. That'll give them something to do the poor underemployed dears. They should be grateful!!!

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18414590.amp/

There is also the fact that it is estimated that 40% of Bournemouth’s own population live in flats (and yet manage not to poo on the beach most of the time)...

@BebeGlazer

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18414590.amp/

There is also the fact that it is estimated that 40% of Bournemouth’s own population live in flats (and yet manage not to poo on the beach most of the time)...

Some of them are even toilet trained (hard to believe in 2020 UK)

I wish I could copy and paste photos of our little town which sits next to the A31 so that Boston could grasp what it was really like the other day. Our sleepy little market town became a rat run for the daytrippers. Local pages have lots of comments on the subject and photos:

Locals were abused by the daytrippers for getting in the way as they tried to cut through the town
A young girl in her car trying to drive against the flow of traffic (it is two way as high street is open even on market day day) being called a stupid little bitch (and other worse things) because they had to give way,
A daytripper doing a U turn when he realised he couldn’t get down the road any quicker and throwing his rubbish into a hedge in front of the homeowner (when challenged he said yes I did that and drove off)
A homeowner catching a lad pissing on his drive after jumping out of a car that was stuck in the horrendous traffic jam as they were returning home
Locals (including myself) struggling to even cross the road because once the cars had got through the high street they were accelerating to race to the A31 (I and a few others were helped by local workman who made them stop)

At 11pm on Thursday night the traffic was at a standstill on the A31 because so many people were leaving the beach, I saw a traffic jam as I was driving home down the A31 that was the length of the forest so 14 miles long so if that beach wasn’t overcrowded where did all those cars suddenly come from?

That was our experience in a nearby town, not Bournemouth so I believe what the locals in Bournemouth were saying as the daytrippers were acting like animals in our town too.

And I expect none of those people contributed a single penny to the local economy, Tara.

@FlamingoAndJohn they used our town as a rat run they weren’t there to contribute to our town! You think how our home town and residents being abused, rubbish thrown into people’s gardens, pissing on people’s drives is ok? Our town isn’t set up for tourism we don’t rely on it and I would imagine any financial gain Bournemouth made by being descended on by 500,000 people was soon lost in clean up costs and the good will of locals who were left with the aftermath.

Nothing excuses the behaviour of these people.

Maybe the locals could leave off the clean up for a couple of days next time. See if the daytrippers would want to sit on a litter/shit strewn beach.

Absolutely disgusting to see the way fellow humans behave.

I cannot imagine wanting to sit on that beach even without a pandemic. Where is the fun in being piled on top of each other? You'd be better off sitting in a sandpit on your local high street.

Sissy....the beach is 7 miles long. The picture is of a tiny proportion on a blazingly hot day.

Most of the rest was pretty empty. Locals know to head towards Branksome or Henningsbury.

The complaints are effectively about day trippers. People from the midlands or London who travel by coach or train so arrive in Central Bournemouth. This is the part of town that has the arcades etc. There is an element of snobbishness involved. Unfortunately this coincided with the normal end of school/University parties that happen on the beach. Don’t forget end June is when students from the two Universities will have to have collected their things from their rental properties. Bristol too had a massive rave, which sort of substituted as a goodbye/graduation for those who missed out because of lockdown.

@Needmoresleep have you read the thread? It's not just Bournemouth central at all. All of my experiences are Mudeford/Avon (which is near to hengistbury head which I think you mean by henningbury?)
And the other major issues including the entire ferry line over to the Purbecks was caused by people blocking to a ranks one and Sandbanks.

*flocking to Branksome and Sandbanks

Squirtle,

You should explore a little. Real locals head for the area below the cliffs between Branksome Chine and Canford Cliffs. Or between Southbourne and Henningsbury Head.

Not Sandbanks (too many TV programmes) or the relatively small beach by the super expensive beach huts at Mudeford. (Do you own one! Worth the price of a 4 bedroom house in most parts of the country.)

I am reliable informed that both were pretty empty, as they normally are.

[quote Tara336]@FlamingoAndJohn they used our town as a rat run they weren’t there to contribute to our town! You think how our home town and residents being abused, rubbish thrown into people’s gardens, pissing on people’s drives is ok? Our town isn’t set up for tourism we don’t rely on it and I would imagine any financial gain Bournemouth made by being descended on by 500,000 people was soon lost in clean up costs and the good will of locals who were left with the aftermath.

Nothing excuses the behaviour of these people.[/quote]
But according to some on this thread you should be getting together with local businesses to pick up all the rubbish and be grateful. Otherwise all those people will fuck off to Spain because you are grumpy and when you don’t have your bins emptied it’ll be your fault.

@FlamingoAndJohn yes I’ve seen an awful lot of the ridiculous comments on here. I won’t lose any sleep over people not visiting or holidaying here either as contrary to the belief of many mumsnetters on here we don’t all work in hospitality. In fact I don’t know anyone here that does. We are accused of being NIMBYS, snobs etc yet nothing could be further from the truth! There’s is an expectation that the area will be busy on nice days and school holidays, we adjust our lifestyles to accommodate this ie planning when we decide to go out in the local area as we know certain roads will become extremely busy etc

What went on last week was just unacceptable and anyone who makes excuses for the litter, pissing and shitting in people’s gardens etc well I’m sorry then I just despair

@FlamingoAndJohn

I haven't said people should be grateful to tourists who are littering and defecating.

However, I think at a time when the economy is on its knees and we all need to be doing everything possible to keep people on employment, I think local residents have a responsibility to accentuate the positives and really do their part in encouraging tourists to visit. So they should really not be making public criticisms of visitors and should be helping to clear up litter etc to ensure their area remains a great place to visit.

[quote BostonCheers]@FlamingoAndJohn

I haven't said people should be grateful to tourists who are littering and defecating.

However, I think at a time when the economy is on its knees and we all need to be doing everything possible to keep people on employment, I think local residents have a responsibility to accentuate the positives and really do their part in encouraging tourists to visit. So they should really not be making public criticisms of visitors and should be helping to clear up litter etc to ensure their area remains a great place to visit.[/quote]
Oh my word!!

Would you want to clear up someone else's poo particularly in this Covid crisis?

I know I wouldn't

Bollox, I live in London, I don’t have a personal responsibility to clean tube trains.

Some, not all people are like wild animals.
A wild animal will piss and shit wherever it wants, including in gardens.
They will also tear wrappers from food, eat the food and leave the wrapper on the ground.
They will also become violent in hot weather especially if their personal space is encroached.
A wild animal doesn't know any better. A human does.
Why would a human want to act like a wild animal?
Yes, a lot of people have been cooped up for a few weeks, that doesn't mean that they have to go charging off to the beaches and other beauty spots like they've just been freed from a ten year prison sentence.
If they have no respect for others or their surroundings, then they're lacking in self respect too, because no one with a shred of self respect would act like a wild animal.
Nor would anyone with a grain of brain go anywhere for a prolonged period of time without checking what facilities are open first.

[quote BostonCheers]@FlamingoAndJohn

I haven't said people should be grateful to tourists who are littering and defecating.

However, I think at a time when the economy is on its knees and we all need to be doing everything possible to keep people on employment, I think local residents have a responsibility to accentuate the positives and really do their part in encouraging tourists to visit. So they should really not be making public criticisms of visitors and should be helping to clear up litter etc to ensure their area remains a great place to visit.[/quote]
So @Tara336 should be responsible for clearing up after people who just passed through her town and contributed nothing at all to the economy?
The people driving through her town littering had nothing to do with people having jobs. I’ve lived in a number of seaside towns and my jobs there never had anything to do with tourist.

Hahahahahaha

Snobbery..... from a town that has become known as the stag and hen capital of the world, that has many rehab centres to help the less fortunate, that embraces diversity and culture wholeheartedly......

I'm very interested in the psychology of people who seem determined to put our residents into a pre-defined box so readily, when it has been repeated over and over that it was a specific set of circumstances causing a reaction of concern for both visitors and residents and it has been explained over and over again. We don't want that to put people off from coming but in the current situation the actions of those who behaved anti-socially were particularly alarming.

We know our local areas thank you - and we know what it was really like for a 24 hour period. Statistically, if our population is near 200,000, and 500,000 people turn up for fun n frolics, a huge number of residents experienced that as testified by people posting here.

This is beginning to feel a bit Orwellian and not dissimilar to other issues going on generally - believe what I believe, regardless of the truth or suffer the consequences. Quite startling and a bit chilling to be honest.

Why are these few posters so wedded to their worldview and perception that they cannot accept their perception from afar does not tally with actual events? Is it to provoke a reaction? To see how far people can be pushed before they say something out of frustration that can be seized upon to prove their point? It's not like we're discussing an abstract - 50+ tonnes of rubbish, 1000 traffic fines and three stabbings haven't been invented to encourage metaphysical debate, they have been observed and are evidence of an actual problem that was addressed and that will be used as to inform our actions as lockdown eases further so that visitors and residents can co-exist peacefully and safely while the pandemic is still being considered a risk.

I'm beginning to think the end of the world won't be by physical catastrophe but from collective nervous breakdown to be honest. Oh, and for the record, we weren't having a nervous breakdown here over the issues - we were appropriately concerned and understandably pissed off - normal reactions.

@Bostoncheers do the daytrippers have any responsibility at all? Or is it just us locals that are completely irresponsible by saying we are not ok with our area/towns/homes/residents being treated with utter contempt? If that’s the case and you think it’s fine Im happy to join the other mumsnetters who have offered to visit your home and treat it in the same way, you can clean up the shit we leave behind after all if it’s good enough for us to do...

So they should really not be making public criticisms of visitors and should be helping to clear up litter etc to ensure their area remains a great place to visit.

No. The visitors (a subsection thereof) should not be making a filthy mess in the first place, and of course local people have every right to criticise them. you are getting this arse about face.

It's Not ideal, regrettable and unfortunate but I really think there are two posters on this thread who are either so ignorant or thick they just can't understand basic common decency or are just goady arseholes with nothing better to do.