Bournemouth beach - “Major incident”

[BebeGlazer]

The local police and council have now declared that Bournemouth beach is scene of “major incident” because people will not stay away. Overcrowding, littering, desperately dangerous parking.

www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18541911.bournemouth-beach-bcp-council-declares-major-incident/

Please, please, think kindly before travelling to small seaside towns at the moment. We cannot cope.

Those photos aren't of the same bit of beach at the same time so obviously there are differences.
I'm not in any corner at all. What happened Thursday was completely unacceptable. It's not Bournemouth City Council or County Council.. it's BCP. This is not isolated to Bournemouth it massively effected Christchurch (C) and Poole (P) too. But you clearly aren't local or were effected by this.

And again my point was that the issues caused by this weren't isolated to the beach it spilled out and caused issues in the local community so you'd have pretty good experience of conditions in a lot of the surrounding towns, absolutely - I did living a couple of roads away from a very popular stretch of the beach here as did a huge number of residents. That's the point.

I would also be interested to know which councillors have spoken out against the action taken by VS yesterday? Were any of them also involved in the vote of no confidence attempted coup just a few short weeks ago?

I’ll give you the list of foolish behaviour seen here.

1. Not being aware that there are more beaches in the U.K. than just Bournemouth.
2. Not reading any news over the last 10 or so years that consistently use the photos of crowding on Bournemouth beach as their headline.
3. Not checking a sat nav before you set off. Even at 10am you’d see the roads were busy and amend your plans accordingly.
4. Not adequately preparing for a day trip to the beach by taking items with you which would make urination and defecation easier.
5. Not taking rubbish home with you.
6. Not taking social distancing seriously.

There are fools everywhere.

And Bostoncheers, here’s a gift just for you, thank me later.

www.thesaurus.com/browse/disappointing
www.thesaurus.com/browse/regrettable

@SquirtleSquad

I would also be interested to know which councillors have spoken out against the action taken by VS yesterday? Were any of them also involved in the vote of no confidence attempted coup just a few short weeks ago?

Oh, for god's SAKE, I named him!!

This is becoming like 'debating with mince'.
No, I'm not 'local; I live 25 miles away, tho am v familiar with Bournemouth and have a DC at uni there.

Maybe, just maybe the 'vote of no confidence' was justified?

Ok so you didn't experience any of what went on here then? There's plenty to read on this thread and the other one going over what people have experienced in person living here this week. It genuinely has been pretty awful for a lot of people. I don't know why you'd want to minimise for those who are cross/upset/annoyed or how ever they feel about it, especially if you haven't been effected at all.

And re the councillor - You named one but then went onto say 'people' so assumed there would be more than one. I personally don't think the vote was justified my local councillor is really really dedicated and has been a breath of fresh air but if you've had a really negative experience since the formation of BCP and VS's appointment as someone who doesn't live here then you're obviously entitled to feel that way.

1. Not being aware that there are more beaches in the U.K. than just Bournemouth

• Bournemouth has some of the best beaches in the UK outside the SW. You can keep Lepe.

1. Not reading any news over the last 10 or so years that consistently use the photos of crowding on Bournemouth beach as their headline.

-Yup, I have demonstrated over and over how the long, low shot distorts reality. The DM's friend. Erstwhile 'Phwoar, whatta Scorcher!'; now rebranded as 'Killers!'

1. Not checking a sat nav before you set off. Even at 10am you’d see the roads were busy and amend your plans accordingly.

• Everyone expects a trip to beaches like Bournemouth to be a long, hot sit in a car. The Council have spent a lot of cash over the past two years trying to make it easier to access Bournemouth on the A338 (I think! I think that's the name of the road! Before squirtle think she's demolishing my argument by noting my misnaming of the major A road that runs SW alongside the airport... 😉). I used to roll my eyes once seeing the queues if heading there to visit my DC. I certainly didn't 'turn around'. As you wouldn't.

1. Not adequately preparing for a day trip to the beach by taking items with you which would make urination and defecation easier.

• members of the council concede they weren't adequately prepared for a heatwave predicted a week previously; and who seriously thinks they should need to prepared to defecate at one of Britain's major beach resorts that is open?

1. Not taking rubbish home with you.

• I readily concede that isn't great. But let's ask local expert squirtle to research how many tonnes the council estimate they clean up from those beaches every day, anyway?

1. Not taking social distancing seriously.

• I closely followed governmental guidelines. If it's good enough for Dom, it's good enough for me 😉

Aaaand you can barely contract Covid outside. Aaaand the BLM protests- still awaiting that 'spike', aren't we?

If you weren't in Bournemouth miljea, then why comment to say that what residents say they saw, was overblown? How do you know? Were you sat there watching the Bournemouth beach webcam all day long?

I think some people just enjoy being a devil's advocate.

I was there and it was nothing like on the photos in the news ! At all

Aaanyway.

I think my work here is done.

200 enraged Mumsnetters piled in yesterday. Had their 'say' (Disgusting!)- aaaand left.

In the cold, hard light of day, with less hysterical reportage, rather less air-time and council and local business owners justifiably pretty pissed off at the (national and global) sensationalist reporting and over reactions of yesterday, it would appear there are questions to be answered.

IMO Bournemouth fucked up their handling of being one of the most popular beaches in the UK.

And quite a few MNetters waded in, had their 'say', and left.

Others are picking over the pedantics in order to feel justified in their hysteria of yesterday.

As you were.

And good luck with reviving your life-blood industry.

If you are going to the beach just to shit and fight, it doesn’t need to be the best beach in the world. It could be any bit of U.K. sand. Or just have a litter tray like all the other animals across the country.

Not everyone expects a huge traffic jam to get to the beach. That’s only if you are going to the most obvious beach on the most obvious day of the year. I drove to an Essex beach near me last weekend, entirely straight road, it took 20 mins less than usual, and not a single other person on the beach. I knew it would be so because my sat nav told me there were no other cars in the area and I had checked a few times throughout the day before to see how it was doing.

I also took our mini chemical toilet and some blankets as curtains for the boot of our 7 seater. Because not everyone just turns up and wonders why half a million other people thought they were being equally original.

Lardlizard you need to understand that your first hand account of what you witnessed means nothing.

You're up against rivers of raw sewage, mass brawls, a thousand tonnes of toxic waste, and MN outrage.

😊

sisteragatha I am well familiar with 'Essex beaches' 😉

There's a reason there are no traffic queues heading towards them...

I'm not a local expert, I'm a resident.. you're criticising a council that you can't even name and also weighing in on the vote of no confidence in that same councils leadership which came about in circumstances completely unrelated to this. I brought up the vote to question whether the councillor you mentioned spoke out against the handling of this disingenuously because of the tension with the conservative councillors right now.

You're very invested in this for someone it hasn't effected in any way at all.

And now you've flounced.. oh and then returned straight away.

No other response except to run down essex beaches? When Bournemouth hardly looked inviting

It wasn’t southend either (which had similar issues but always does) because that is also full of the brainless people who think it the only beach in the U.K.

There is more to the U.K. than one beach.

Essex has some good beaches. 'My' beach when I was growing up did require knowledge of the tide times but the upside was that it got washed in several feet of salt water twice a day.

I know a beach like that Errol and I won’t say which one because we all see what happens when something gets too popular!

@Miljea

Aaanyway.

I think my work here is done.

200 enraged Mumsnetters piled in yesterday. Had their 'say' (Disgusting!)- aaaand left.

In the cold, hard light of day, with less hysterical reportage, rather less air-time and council and local business owners justifiably pretty pissed off at the (national and global) sensationalist reporting and over reactions of yesterday, it would appear there are questions to be answered.

IMO Bournemouth fucked up their handling of being one of the most popular beaches in the UK.

And quite a few MNetters waded in, had their 'say', and left.

Others are picking over the pedantics in order to feel justified in their hysteria of yesterday.

As you were.

And good luck with reviving your life-blood industry.

Yes, your work here is done. We definitely all now agree, that there was no problem at all with 1/2 million people showing up in Bournemouth yesterday. Hmm?

Happy flouncing.

Im in Essex but nowhere near a beach.

@Miljea I get that one photo looks busier than the other, however, I can't help but feel that neither is acceptable in the middle of a pandemic.

Even the "quieter" photo doesn't show adequate social distancing.

If it's good enough for Dom, it's good enough for me

I try to set my moral standards a little bit higher than that personally.

What I don't understand is where all these people thought they were going to go to the toilet. They cannot all have been unaware of the issue with public loos. Did they just think, 'oh we'll just shit in a strangers garden or in the sea, get in the car...'? It may seem odd that we can travel hours from home to public spaces, and yet we can't really use that freedom as there may not be anywhere to go to the loo. Odd, but happening so yes, we can't do it. That said I shouldn't expect any sort of reasoning or decency from people who just leave their rubbish behind. I can't think of anyone I know who would do that.

If you are going to the beach just to shit and fight, it doesn’t need to be the best beach in the world. It could be any bit of U.K. sand

Ha, so true!

Samcro Thu 25-Jun-20 15:10:48
people are mad. seems the sun comes out and they forget covid.
(I wouldn't call Bournemouth small)
.......
Yes indeed, as if it would kill anyone to not go to a beach for one year. People are so selfish.

(I too would not call Bournemouth small.)

Millijea, both photographs look much the same to me. They are taken from different angles so on one, groups of people look a bit more distanced from each other is all - but not much. The beach looks terribly crowded in both.