Bournemouth beach - “Major incident”

[BebeGlazer]

The local police and council have now declared that Bournemouth beach is scene of “major incident” because people will not stay away. Overcrowding, littering, desperately dangerous parking.

www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18541911.bournemouth-beach-bcp-council-declares-major-incident/

Please, please, think kindly before travelling to small seaside towns at the moment. We cannot cope.

[quote BostonCheers]@FlamingoAndJohn

Tourism contributes £1.8 billion to the Dorset economy every year, so Bournemouth would frankly be fucked if some of the ungrateful residents got their way and tourists decided to take their money elsewhere (like I'm doing in Spain this summer)![/quote]
My family as far back as anyone cares to go have always lived in Dorset. Not one penny ever made from tourism.
My mother does spend a day a month picking up litter people throw from their cars. I must tell her to be more grateful.

(I still refuse to acknowledge that Bournemouth is in Dorset).

Not one person in this thread agrees with litter
But it happens everywhere!
No point banging on and on about litter when it’s the one thing that every single person in mumsnet agrees with which is probably THE only one thing absolutely everyone would agree with on the whole of
Mumsnet

@BostonCheers have you read all of the replies to your numerous repetitive posts?
We aren't saying that we don't welcome tourists, we are saying that the actions and visitors on Wednesday/Thursday were ridiculous and disrespectful. We are in the middle of a pandemic and there is no need for anyone (us included) to be travelling miles across the country for a jolly day out and then cause chaos when we get there.

The council have repeatedly asked people to stay local and keep away until they are prepared inline with the guidelines to appropriately welcome people and have enough appropriate places open to cope and deal with them.

We already have mass organised litter picks, there's a tweet slightly up thread that shows exactly how that's going for us.

Please stop minimising people's personal experiences of what happened. It was not regretful, unfortunate or minor. It was disgraceful.

Our economy survives from the Financial Services Sector, the university and public services. Of course tourism is an inportant of our economy but we do not need 1/2 million visitors in one day coming down on one day, during a pandemic when nothing is open anyway, resulting in huge costs to the council and putting mass strain on our resources.

@SquirtleSquad

I haven't said any of the behaviour this week was acceptable. I've said much of it was regrettable and I'd go as for as to day that some of it was very disappointing.

This 'stay local' argument is nonsense though. So long as people maintain appropriate social distancing- which the vast majority of visitors did, there should be no issues.

Really this argument is a NIMBY, anti-visitors campaign and it cannot be given credence. People living in London or Birmingham have as much right to use the beach as local residents.

For the eleventybillionth time. There is no campaign against visitors. After July 4th, when the town is open and ready, according to the easing of lockdown rules, and we can make sure everyone is safe and catered for and have the nice time they want and are entitled to, it will be a different story.

@BostonCheers You just repeat the same things over and over again! NO-ONE absolutely NO-ONE is saying that people don't have just as much as right as the residents to use the beach- that's a given ok? What isn't a given is to use the place like a giant lavatory. Would you be ok if someone came to your house and shat everywhere and left it strewn with rubbish??

@OldQueen1969

For the eleventybillionth time. There is no campaign against visitors. After July 4th, when the town is open and ready, according to the easing of lockdown rules, and we can make sure everyone is safe and catered for and have the nice time they want and are entitled to, it will be a different story.

Exactly and even then it surely isn't tooooooo much to ask for visitors to act like respectful human beings.

Really this argument is a NIMBY, anti-visitors campaign and it cannot be given credence.

Hmm. ‘Please don’t shit in my garden’.
Yes, so fucking NIMBY.

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I’d go so far as to say it was disappointing
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It was regrettable
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Cut people some slack

You’ll just get the same cut and paste job, there is no nuance or discussion here. I wouldn’t bother wasting the time to respond to this bot.

@rosinevera

I think you're exaggerating here- it's not like every garden in Bournemouth became a public toilet. A few individuals defecated and urinated in inappropriate locations like behind sheds or disposed of the waste in gardens. They did this because either toilets were closed or the queues were extremely long.

Clearly this is really unfortunate for the residents whose gardens were involved. But the whole of the town was not an open air sewer.

@Mymycherrypie

I believe language and the words we use are important. So 'very disappointing' is as far as I'm going to go to criticise individuals who have been locked in tiny flats with no gardens for months. Some of the behaviour was really regrettable and far from ideal.

No war crimes have been committed despite what some local residents have said.

Ok Bot

@BostonCheers I think it is using the place like a giant sewer - whether they've defecated or left their rubbish - they've left it for someone else to deal with. Absolutely disgusting and selfish behaviour!

I think I'll start a new business selling adult nappies and potties. The country will need entrepreneurs and it might just save out reals of cholera.

[quote BostonCheers]@rosinevera

I think you're exaggerating here- it's not like every garden in Bournemouth became a public toilet. A few individuals defecated and urinated in inappropriate locations like behind sheds or disposed of the waste in gardens. They did this because either toilets were closed or the queues were extremely long.

Clearly this is really unfortunate for the residents whose gardens were involved. But the whole of the town was not an open air sewer.[/quote]
I think the volunteer group who picked up the litter (Dorset Devils) would disagree with you on that one.

"My family as far back as anyone cares to go have always lived in Dorset. Not one penny ever made from tourism. "

So you don't have your bins emptied, or use the tip, or enjoy street lighting or paved roads, or the myriad other services that your local authority provide, partially paid for by the business rates paid by the businesses who serve tourists?

Clearly this is really unfortunate for the residents whose gardens were involved.

Unfortunate? Are you a Tory MP?

No amount of being stuck in a flat excuses people from leaving litter behind.

rosinevera It is clear that bostoncheers has standards for behaviour that differ significantly from social norms. And is like a dog with a bone in defending this. Perhaps she herself is antisocial or she is surrounded by people who are and thinks it’s normal

Either way, it’s most regrettable and unfortunate for her she thinks public shitting isn’t that bad

@amicissimma

"My family as far back as anyone cares to go have always lived in Dorset. Not one penny ever made from tourism. "

So you don't have your bins emptied, or use the tip, or enjoy street lighting or paved roads, or the myriad other services that your local authority provide, partially paid for by the business rates paid by the businesses who serve tourists?

Well there isn’t street lighting. The tip, and empty of bins is paid for by council tax. Towns who don’t have tourist seem to manage to have all those facilities.

Argh if I have to read one more time pity for people 'cooped up for 3 months' ill go slightly mad 😂 Nobody was cooped up. We wernt in prison! We had access to the outside. My daughter and gs live in a flat. They managed to survive by going on walks locally. Using their imaginations and making it fun. No one in the UK was shut up in their homes 24/7 for the last 3 months. Shielding and vulnerable obviously were but most of thise on the beach would have just been using entitlement to do as they please and not give a damn about possibly overturning what has been achieved. Personally the thought of being on a crammed beach like that is my idea of hell. We did naively venture to Bournemouth 2 years ago on a hot day only to find ourselves by midday caught up in something similar. We left. Couldn't stand the smell of weed and seeing people burying their lager cans in the sand and having people so close they may as well shared my towel. Plus on a walk towards the pier we found needles. Must be awful for residents. You have my utmost sympathy xxx

these not thise I dont know where that came from 🤣

Even people who do come out of years in prison dont celebrate their freedom by crapping all over Bournemouth

“What you gonna do when you get out Jonny?”
“Probably a steak, a beer, then a crap in a rose bush.”

It doesn’t happen.

"So you don't have your bins emptied, or use the tip, or enjoy street lighting or paved roads, or the myriad other services that your local authority provide, partially paid for by the business rates paid by the businesses who serve tourists?"

Sounds like Fridays cohort cost far more than any contribution they made with all the extra clean up costs incurred- poor residents.

People defacating, land leaving san pro must have very low self respect and standards, not normal

@woodhill

You're making it sounds like thousands of people just walked into people's gardens and did a shit on the grass. That didn't happen.

A small number of individuals unfortunately did defecate and urinate in places that were not ideal, such as behind sheds and others took the regrettable decision to dispose of bottles of urine in gardens because bins were full.

So clearly not behaviour that should be encouraged but it's not as if every garden in Bournemouth became an open air public toilet.