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Well, I'm in a positively splendid mood this evening

DS2 has gone to his father's for the weekend and so, for my dinner, I've had...

Fudge. Nearly an entire box of Morrison's all butter fudge.

You can't tell me I'm not enjoying the high life.

In other news - today I had the welfare check phone call from ds2's teacher and am promised another in 2 weeks (can't wait). He has also been invited to enter this year's maths challenge competition thingy, which he is very happy about (strange child loves maths. He did not get this from me!)

I must say I fancy a trip to IKEA. It's a shit drive though so not something to be undertaken lightly.

I am going to lose my fucking shit, I swear. The government have always said they will review the shielding w/c 15th June (bear in mind the date we have been told to shield until is 30.06.20 and it was "likely" to be extended).

Asked about it at the press conference today and responded "the coming weeks very shortly we’ll be getting that advice out to them, giving the advice that they need to make sure that they know that they can go out safely and who is needing to continue to take those special protective measures”

The coming weeks very shortly?! People need to know if they should be going back to work, people have DC shielding who want to go to school...Surely they know by now if there are any indications to advise people with certain conditions to continue to shield or if it's not necessary. How can they just expect to leave people in limbo like that?

And I know it's our decision and we don't need to be told what to do but surely the whole point of the shielding period was to gain more knowledge of which conditions were most at risk etc and advise us so we can assess out risks sensibly. All I have been advised at the moment is that respiratory issues are the biggest underlying cause of sad deaths in women in my age group and that's why I especially need to STAY AWAY FROM ANYONE AND EVERYTHING. You would think after months and months they would review this as soon as they could with the evidence they've had. It's like we are a fucking afterthought all the fucking time. Back of the queue all the fucking time.

Also "those special protective measures" fuck OFF, what would they be then - oh yes telling us to stay in our houses away from anyone even the people we live with for months and months

I'm fucking furious - I have made the decision that leaving the house for certain things/not staying isolated from my DC is more beneficial to my mental health than risky to my physical health so I will make my own decisions. But I would like to be at least kept in the loop with updated info or even just fucking acknowledged. To treat the most vulnerable people this way is fucking scandalous.

Do not leave your house, even in your house stay away from everyone even your husband and children, do this for months and we will get round to you eventually. In the coming weeks very shortly.

@SpnBaby1967 Excellent news about your karate!

We've also been told that one of ours can go back on the 27th. Inside!! Very excited

@OhFuckOffWithTheBubbleBollocks That's so shit. No wonder you're furious, I would be too. It's outrageous that you've been so much ignored

OhFuckOffWithTheBubbleBollocks “the coming weeks very shortly...” that’s just an insult, you need something concrete now.

@Shodan yay!

@OhFuckOffWithTheBubbleBollocks that's shite. The not knowing must be really difficult. The UK Governments have been really bad on handling this.

Jesus Bubbles I'm so sorry 😪 What a gigantic crock of shit. Your rage and frustration is palpable and I don't blame you one tiny bit. The not knowing is worse than knowing the worst.

Rant away x

Sorry that was awfully me me me and ranty There are people in a lot worse situations than me, shielding DC which must be incredibly hard, shielding people being pressured to go back to high risk employment or not being paid or being paid SSP or just being sacked, and people living apart - actually in different houses from their DC.

It's so shoddy to treat them this way. I think a lot of people assume all shielding people are elderly (over half of us are under 70!) or we are sick/disabled enough that they don't have a "proper" RL anyway alright that might be true for me when there are shielding people usually living healthy, active day to day lives which have just been STOPPED.

What ho, murderous wenches...

Today I kept the anxiety under control. Later, there will be drinking. And maybe a takeaway.

But first I have to wield the Sticks Of Pain. AKA the freeze treatment for a verrucca on my daughters foot. Her teacher did ask me very delicately what these sticks of pain that she said I used on her feet were...

OhFuckOffWithTheBubbleBollocks you’re right, that is absolutely fucking shit.
I’d offer you a hug but I don’t want to murder one of our own.

My mum has been shielding as she as cancer of the blood. This week her consultant told her to start seeing people as the virus will still be around and to live her life ( as long as people are not obviously ill which is normal with chemo anyway). My aunt came to see her and they hugged, I may have cried. Of course they may have said that as I don't think mum has long left with us anyway, but I'm trying not to think about that

I think it must be horrible to be shielded/have shielded DCs. I'm pretty gung ho but even I think sometimes the COVID gods will strike me down.

the coming weeks very shortly we’ll be getting that advice out to them, giving the advice that they need to make sure that they know that they can go out safely and who is needing to continue to take those special protective measures”
Does someone ever proof read this answer without an answer shit?

That's crap
OhFuckOffWithTheBubbleBollocks. No wonder you are spitting bricks.

The shielded have had a bad time of it from the beginning. I initially assumed the purpose of the lockdown was not just to prevent overloading the NHS, but also to get systems in place to protect the shielded so they could make their own risk assessments securely. In actual fact, they've been forgotten entirely.

I'm very sorry OhFuckOff, I don't know enough to be able to advise you!

@bubble I do feel for you and all people in your situation. I guess the truth is that they just don't know and rather than say that they just waffle instead which is so annoying. If you're shielded you know you're at risk, the government knows you're at risk and daren't lift that for fear of what it might lead to. We do now have lower infection rates and even some better treatment options but the virus still is out there and doesn't look to be disappearing as fast as we would all like - as Vallance said a few weeks ago, it's got a very long tail. I guess what I am clumsily trying to say is that the government is fearful about getting this very delicate stage wrong as the consequences could be dire. But you know all this, I know from all your posts that you do. You're fed up and pissed off and need to vent, quite right too. This is a good and safe place to do that. Sorry I've just managed to waffle a la government without saying anything meaningful either!

@ohfuckoff that's really utterly shit!!! A bloody disgusting way to treat people 😡

@OhFuckOffWithTheBubbleBollocks that is utter shit. They can't just expect you to hang on indefinitely.

Btw I know it was a question but they should be prepared for questions like this not just waffle gibberish.

@OhFuckOff ... rant away - it is truly shite - living with lack of control uncertainty is so so hard

It is just one fob off after another whether it's the big life stuff like shielding or getting back to work/ school or trivial things like playgrounds that can brighten up your life and help you deal with the big stuff.

It's uncertainty that I usually struggle with most. Mid-March was horrible because change was in the air but everything was jumbled. That waiting for something unknown and external gets to me. Last week I was down in a different way from the disappointment and loss of hope for schools until September, and just months of social dysfunction.

A headline strategy a bit like June for some schooling, shops, and July for some leisure, just ranking the phasing of change helps.

I love the way that these threads are a safe place to vent whatever you need, be it the very big or just the trivial that finishes you off.

@OhFuckOffWithTheBubbleBollocks I get you. Rant away. The worst thing about the first part of this, for me, was the uncertainty about when it might end. You are still in that position and quite rightly fucked off.

and uncertainty

dingit thats such a bittersweet meeting. I hope your mum gets many more hugs and good times to come and you are wrong about her time left with you. [Flowers]

@Willow2017

the coming weeks very shortly we’ll be getting that advice out to them, giving the advice that they need to make sure that they know that they can go out safely and who is needing to continue to take those special protective measures” Does someone ever proof read this answer without an answer shit? That's crap OhFuckOffWithTheBubbleBollocks. No wonder you are spitting bricks.

I think they are given standard answers to use and he got mixed up half way through and gave the first half of one answer and the second half of another.

The answers are basically the same whatever the question after all/

[quote TheGreatWave]This is from MSE about the 14th July grant rule. I may just be reading too much into it, but it does seem that it could be some sort of tipping point.

www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2020/04/self-employed-help-coronavirus/[/quote]
Oh dear, that is a blow

That's not how it was first presented at all.