36 COVID fatalities reported today. We are on the way out of this 🌟🌟

[Jkslays]

36 reported fatalities today (weekend caveat), the lowest number since the day before lockdown was announced. 77 & 115 the last two Sundays for comparison

Mercifully, the human toll of this crisis is easing

I'm hopeful the trends will continue to improve

As reported by Professor Karol Sikora on Twitter

This is amazing news and surely our schools should be able to open as normal come September!

@jasjas1973

Bully for you but millions of us quite liked our 'old' lives and can't wait to get back to them

I always try and make the best of any situation, if you want a return to your old normal, you'll be waiting a long time.

Perhaps try and make the most of the present instead of constantly yearning for a lost past?

It’s not a lost past. It’s a postponed future.

bad news there has been people die, good news there hasnt been more people die besides this, it is hard to feel too positive about something so invisable that may have passed us or close to us each day, its easy to pretend like all is well now when we cant see it, everywhere i go there are groups of people..people having parties, kids playing together, shops opening, i hope that there is no second wave coming.... we are not exactly following other countries lockdown rules... which is a tad concerning

True sandy but they clearly couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. The mess of Brexit also down to them.
It's also very weird how on other threads everyone is desperate to get their kids back to school. So contradictory.
Last Sunday was 70 odd so clearly we are doing better. More infections is also is partly because of more testing. Some people are enjoying all this and are determined to look as gloomily as possible on our outlook.

It took 10 days to go from 30 deaths to a 1000 in a day.

It has taken over 10 weeks to down from 1000 to 36 deaths in a day

No celebration here.

I always try and make the best of any situation, if you want a return to your old normal, you'll be waiting a long time

Just because you desperately want something to be true, it doesn't make it so. You have absolutely no more knowledge of what the future holds than anyone else.

Perhaps try and make the most of the present instead of constantly yearning for a lost past?

"A lost past"! Listen to yourself! You're proving what some of us said above: Some people here are absolutely loving this and are desperate for it not to change for their own selfish reasons.

@PollyPolson

It took 10 days to go from 30 deaths to a 1000 in a day.

It has taken over 10 weeks to down from 1000 to 36 deaths in a day

No celebration here.

What exactly is your point?

Without a vaccine/cure there will always be someone who dies from this, just like flu, cancer, heart attacks. Some people no matter how much space we have in the hospital's just can not be saved so waiting until deaths are 0 will be insane.

Comparing Sunday figures you can see there is a huge drop and yes obviously a lot of that will be down to lockdown. However we are 12 weeks in and we can't stay locked in our houses for much longer. I need my life back, my children need their life back. Granted we are extremely low risk but there is always that chance but it's one I'm willing to take if it means living. We are so much more prepared than we were back in March. Those people who are truly at risk can be given the opportunity to stay in. We are more stringent on hygiene, on social distancing and self isolating for symptoms plus tests are a lot more available now so we know what we are dealing with.

I don't think the government have handled it very well but it is what it is. People are suffering in lockdown and for many people it's over or at least as much as it can be. We can't afford to be paid to sit at home, we need to get back to work and I include myself in that. I've been furloughed since the start but I know it has to end and I will go back to work in a pub. Nobody should be forced to stay apart from friends and family for any longer unless they choose to stay apart and I'm refusing to do it now. If someone doesn't want to take the risk of catching this then that's fine, they can stay inside. Those who are low risk or who feel life is worth more than this despite them having a high chance of dying should be allowed to have some sort of a normal life. Nobody knows what's around the corner, tomorrow morning I could get up, fall down the stairs and die, we could get run over by a speeding car on the way to school.

All these protests have been made so much worse because people are channelling their frustrations and their boredom. If things continue for much longer I would be surprised if there were even more riots going on. We are not designed to be locked up, it's not the plague.

Tomorrow's death figure will be higher, it's Monday but as long as the figures fall overall we have done what we needed to do, flatten the curve and keep space in the hospital's.

Without a cure that's all we can do and at some point people need to get on with living not just existing.

To be fair, @jasjas1973 it was you who were preaching about things you said were bad before lockdown and would hopefully change.

Try to imagine that some people had happy, balanced, fulfilled, fun lives and would like them back. You can then make the best of yours still by doing whatever you wish.

@MiniMaxi

Surely we have to be at zero cases and closed borders to go back to our normal lives - school and work as normal etc? Otherwise exponential growth takes us back to where we were... (though hopefully the govt wouldn’t be so fucking slow in introducing regional lockdowns etc to stamp it out next time)

No we don't have to get to zero. It may die out, we may get a vaccine, it may stay in the background forever now and there will be a few cases every year - or there is a very slight possibility that it will come back even stronger and kill a lot more people. A bigger but also very slight possibility (at least in the near future, it will happen again one day) it that there will be another new virus.

Life isn't safe, it never has been and never will be. In each situation we have to weigh up the risk and make an informed decision.

We will all die one day. Many of us will die a lot sooner if the economy continues to crash at the rate it is doing.

Perhaps try and make the most of the present instead of constantly yearning for a lost past?

Which bit of the present? Anxious, depressed child? Precarious job still inside 2 years employment? Husband’s pay cut? Inability to see my family in another country for the foreseeable future? School ditching support for the children who aren’t in the magical two returning classes? I just can’t decide!

I think shops are opening too soon. Beijing after 2 months covid19 free and has now had a resurgence and they are having to lockdown again. - Let's not be too complacent!

There will always be a bit of fear around no matter what. Whatever your age group or perceived invincibility most people care about their currently shielding relatives.

Hopefully all will be well, but too much too soon might just not be the right way. On the other hand it might be. I will be erring on the side of caution for my dear vulnerable relatives. Doesn't mean I can't get on with life, but it won't be easy either.

We are where we are @IcedPurple and we don't know how long we will be in the "new normal" so make the best of what you have now? pointless moaning you can't do x y or z because it won't change the fact that you still can't do as you want!

You might not like that but the reality is you (nor me) have zero idea how long this will last, whether they'll be a resurgence of Cv in the winter (hopefully) Cv dies out this summer, never to seen of again or there is a vaccine.

@Sparklfairy

Just for comparison around 450 people die of cancer every day.

Where's that then? Because in England and Wales we 'only' have around 11,000 deaths of ALL causes per week!

There are around 165,000 cancer deaths in the UK every year, that's around 450 every day (2015-2017). Cancer accounts for more than a quarter (28%) of all deaths in the UK (2017).

www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics-for-the-uk#heading-One

Beijing after 2 months covid19 free and has now had a resurgence and they are having to lockdown again

Beijing has had 45 cases, all associated with one food market, in a city twice the size of London. They are not 'having to lockdown again', just reintroduced a small number or local restrictions.

We are where we are @IcedPurple and we don't know how long we will be in the "new normal"

Oh, but you claimed to know, speaking of a 'lost past' and telling me I'll be waiting a 'long time' for a return to my normal life, about which you have no clue.

pointless moaning you can't do x y or z because it won't change the fact that you still can't do as you want!

Who's 'moaning'? All I'm saying is that I quite liked my 'old' life and am looking forward to a return to it, if and when that will happen.

Just because you're absolutely loving all this, doesn't mean the rest of us have to feel the same way.

There are a certain group in society that seem to be loving the lockdown and hope for it to never end. I have two friends like it - both SAHM who rarely left the house apart from the school run and the odd trip to the supermarket. Neither of them wanted to work despite all their children being in school full time and they were always ‘planning’ to study or return to the workplace.
Lockdown levels the playing field and now it’s seen as societally acceptable not to work or leave your home for days and weeks on end. They seem to love having the children home and revel in just staying in, watching TV and drinking wine. They’ve proudly stated that they’ve not left the house or even been for a walk!
Both of them flood Facebook with scary, doom filled posts saying we should be in lockdown until 2021. I find it bizarre!

We've had loads of mass gatherings recently. I don't think it's wise to get excited until at least four weeks have passed and we get a feel for the real impact of all the protests without social distancing.

Also, I'm not sure what this talk of "beating" the virus is about. Beating suggests we have an effective treatment - all we currently have is sticking someone in hospital and hoping for the best. Even if there are no new cases of the virus, it just takes one person to spread it, and then we're back in the same mess, because we still don't really know how to shut this virus down.

I agree with previous comments that we need to make the most of what we have now, because we don't know how long it will go on for. I'm not loving this situation - I have lost people dear to me, and I have lost aspects of my own life and my own fitness. However, I am trying to find the silver linings where they exist, and focussing on what I have gained, as opposed to just everything I've lost. If I only thought about the people I love who have died during this pandemic, I would break. I'm not letting myself break. I'm letting myself grieve a little, but also do more than just exist.

That's an interesting perspective pink
I tend to agree. It also plays into people's love of drama.

Can 45 positive tests in a single locality in a city of 21.54 million people be described as a "resurgence"?

I'm thinking not.

I can't stop laughing at 'yearning for a lost past'!

Nah mate I need new pants and I fancy a Nandos. No need for the sepia and the violins.

I'll be happier when the Zoe app figures indicate falling infection rates. Where I live, the eastimated proportion of the population with symptomatic Covid has been broadly constant for some time now (and I am talking constant at a relatively high rate). Worried about what shop opening will do, particularly as neighbouring area has high infection rate.

@Khione yes sorry I mean “until there’s a vaccine or it dies out or it becomes obvious that actually most of us are miraculously immune etc”

I don’t disagree that the economic situation is shit but let’s not forget that the forecast fatalities without lockdown was nearly 500k with zero proof that herd immunity is actually a thing.

It is very sad for those 36 people's families. No one is denying that. But the numbers going down is a good thing.

People need to remember that 150,000 people die every day of various causes. Death is a part of life and if the press reported the number of deaths every day of every cause it would make people realise this.

*150,000 people worldwide