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Anti-dementors riding the roller coasters

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Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy · 11/06/2020 17:08

And going to pubs, restaurants and zoos!

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BarkandCheese · 12/06/2020 21:28

I don’t religiously watch Spring Watch but every single time I’ve caught the beginning of it Chris has been going on about unprecedented times and how the show is different this year. I get that you’d want to talk about that on the first couple of episodes, but by week two we all bloody know and don’t constantly need reminding. It’s actually putting me off watching it (well that and the whole “look at the cute chicks in the nest...and now they’re dead” thing they do).

Mascotte · 12/06/2020 21:31

@iamapixie mine is 12 and supposed to be starting high school but this plan sounds so bad we might just learn ourselves by the medium of travel

Teateaandmoretea · 12/06/2020 21:31

Coronavirus: What will a night out be like after lockdown? www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52875126

The new normal...? 🤪😳

BakewellTarts · 12/06/2020 21:32

@bakingcupcakes

No idea if my link will work but my friend sent me this today. It's quite long but I agree with what he says.

I am a huge Lord Sumption fan (recently discovered). Suggest you litsen to Nick Robinsons Political Thinking Podcast with him. Found myself being a nodding dog whilst litsening along.
Dollybagwash · 12/06/2020 21:33

@MagdaS glad to help! Saved my sanity last week!

Anyone else hopeful the tide is turning a wee bit? Parents are now realising the reality of part time time school and having their oh shit moment? It's so crap the zoo's in Scotland can't open.

The begging from NS today was embarrassing! I don't want any more handouts fuck sake I want to get back to work! I teach dance. I can set it up safely in my studio. I emailed Rishi making it clear that we don't want anymore bailouts! Probably pointless but I finished college today and got shit news that we need to wait for results so I have lemon gin and google box.

SomewhereEast · 12/06/2020 21:33

Given the last confirmed Covid case in my entire county was four days ago, I think "staying safe" may be possible? Just maybe? I'm still bleaching my shopping & wearing a hazmat suit to Tesco just in case though. Can't be too careful!

FluffyKittensinabasket · 12/06/2020 21:37

I’m wearing a face mask to Waitrose tomorrow...solely because I have a coldsore!

HesterShaw1 · 12/06/2020 21:37

That sounds like a banging night out 🤔

Orangeblossom78 · 12/06/2020 21:41

I find Chris packham really annoying but feel bad as he's got Asperger's so that might account for some of the repitition

NothingIsWrong · 12/06/2020 21:42

Well I'm well into the gin and sharing ONS statistics all over the place like a demon. This particular graph is the ONS excess deaths graph, up until last Friday. So a week in arrears. Note how the black line is now back at the blue line, meaning there were no statistically significant excess deaths last week.

And an interesting wee bump / 1st wave just before Christmas...

Anti-dementors riding the roller coasters
Orangeblossom78 · 12/06/2020 21:43

See shame about Thekla that's in Bristol nightclub on a boat

Drivingdownthe101 · 12/06/2020 21:45

I’ve been to Thekla. I wouldn’t go if I had to wear a mask, have a temp check on arrival, not go on the dance floor and have to use a one way system, unfortunately.

Drivingdownthe101 · 12/06/2020 21:45

Especially not for a 1 in 1600 chance of meeting someone with Covid.

NothingIsWrong · 12/06/2020 21:48

I used to go to Thekla as a student in Bristol. Was an awesome sweaty hot black box

Teateaandmoretea · 12/06/2020 21:48

It’s lower than that driving as probably 50% actually feel like shit so are likely to be tucked up with their lemsip. Plus the figure is a week out of date....

justasking111 · 12/06/2020 21:50

The R above one in the south west being blamed on people on beaches I saw. Nothing to do with the hospital which was riddled with covid. Or the miscounting, Idiots.

HesterShaw1 · 12/06/2020 21:53

That graphic is interesting isn't it.

Thanks NothingIsWrong!

BakewellTarts · 12/06/2020 21:54

@justasking111 they had a statistician chap on the Sadly Daily Death Programme and he talked a lot of sense. Pointed out that R in the South West was driven by poor infection control at Weston hospital. Gave me some hope that at least someone in the media understood stats.

HesterShaw1 · 12/06/2020 21:57

"Sadly Daily Death Programme"

Arf Grin

Orangeblossom78 · 12/06/2020 22:01

I thought that would explain the SW R. Gin and deaths of a Saturday night aren't we the last of the wild ones! Grin

TeacupDrama · 12/06/2020 22:24

so with a 1 in 1700 chance of meeting someone wih covid and a 3% of getting droplets at 2metres ( 13% at 1 metre) our chances of getting it vary between 1 in 13,000 to 1 in 56,000 if you then take into account that less than 20% end up in hospital that takes it to 1 in 65,000 to 1 in 280,000 for every person you meet so if you meet 10 different people at at least 2 metres for 15 minutes your risk is still only 1 in 6,600 of getting covid and over 1 in 33,300 of getting seriously ill if you are an adult over 50, younger than than that and risks are tiny tiny

HesterShaw1 · 12/06/2020 22:26

Well when you put it like that Teacup!

Laniakea · 12/06/2020 22:29

Pointed out that R in the South West was driven by poor infection control at Weston hospital

^ interesting article about R being driven by hospital infections & community spread being seeded & re-seeded by hospital staff & lack of social distancing.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/12/exclusive-one-five-hospital-coronavirus-patients-caught-illness/

Evidence supporting this from is from PHE, the NHS, SAGE and Nervtag ... but since it's published in the Torygraph (possibly the only ppl who hate BoJo more than The Guardian!) it'll no doubt be ignored.

"There are growing fears that the behaviour of health and care workers – who are often working in crowded and stressful situations – is driving up the [R] rate.

Members of the New and Emerging Threats Advisory Group (Nervtag), which advises the Government, are concerned that workers who observe social distancing rules in public behave differently "backstage".

One said: "There is a good bit of anecdotal evidence that the hospital staff are rigorous with infection control on Covid wards when they're doing Covid-related work. But as soon as they come off the wards, you get stories of 10 doctors clustering round an X-ray viewer without any regard to social distancing or masks or anything like that.

"People will sit round and they will have their coffee, and the language that some hospital staff used is that it's 'more like home than home'."

At a webinar late last month, senior officials expressed similar concerns. Dr Chris Moran, the deputy national strategic incident director for Covid-19, told fellow managers: "I've witnessed, and I'm sure you've all witnessed, that actually healthcare workers have not necessarily been the best at managing social distancing."

"PHE guidance said all staff should adhere to social distancing wherever possible, and ward practice should be reviewed to minimise close contact between groups of staff for prolonged periods and congregation at nurses' stations.

Previous advice had said "social distancing of two metres should be facilitated wherever this is possible", without making any reference to staff. "

"It follows growing concern that coronavirus is spreading within hospitals because Britain failed to introduce basic measures, such as masks, routine staff testing and strict social distancing, which have helped to contain the virus in other parts of Europe.

The instructions follow the infection of 100 staff at Weston General Hospital, which forced its closure to new patients for two and a half weeks."

"Last week, Sage members warned the Lords science and technology select committee that the situation was putting the rest of the country at risk of a second wave.

Professor John Edmunds said: "These are not completely separated epidemics… they seep back out into the community, probably largely through healthcare workers or care home workers who are picking up the virus themselves, unfortunately, bringing it home, and potentially infecting their family members and others."

.... it's much easier to finger wag at people doing perfectly legal & low risk activities such as visiting the beach with their household members than address the real problem areas.

HesterShaw1 · 12/06/2020 22:39

Yet there will be howls of rage if you or i said any such thing on social media. Because you know NHS heroes, Covid, clapping, rainbows

ThatLibraryMiss · 12/06/2020 22:52

Note how the black line is now back at the blue line, meaning there were no statistically significant excess deaths last week.

I think the black line will drop significantly below the blue one in the next few months, because a lot of the people who would have died this Summer/Autumn were taken early off by CV-19.

I will be very interested to see the excess deaths over the whole year.

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