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Anti dementors flock together

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Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy · 07/06/2020 18:43

Gather here anti dementors

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glotterbug · 08/06/2020 09:45

@trappedin so sorry to her that it's total shite!

Nihiloxica · 08/06/2020 09:48

Because OH has savings (from before he moved in with me ), I will not be entitled to any benefits.

Depending on your work history over the past 2 years, you are entitled to claim Job Seekers Allowance based on contributions.

This is not means tested.

The Jobs and Benefits office might try to tell you there is no more JSA becausr of Universal Credit, but that is not true.

Bollss · 08/06/2020 09:50

@trappedsincesundaymorn I am so sorry to hear that. It is so so shit Flowers

Cattermole · 08/06/2020 09:51

@trappedsincesundaymorn oh bollocks I am so sorry.

BarkandCheese · 08/06/2020 09:54

I’m a remainer, but not one who’s been banging on about it for years, and that’s probably the difference. Once the vote was in and the dust settled even though I thought the vote went the wrong way I accepted democracy had been done.

I have a lot of sympathy for the genuinely terrified, but they can’t dictate what the rest of us do through the lens of their fear. My grandmother had bad health anxiety and tried to control my mother and me because of it. Don’t go out in the rain, don’t go out in the cold, a sneeze is a cold, a cold is flu, if you feel under the weather best stay at home for a few days, don’t go abroad because abroad is full of disease, I love you and want you to stay safe. I can see this mindset now being played out on a national level.

Nihiloxica · 08/06/2020 09:56

Yes, Bark, the suffocating logic of "I care too much to give you freedom."

It's back to Aunt Lydia again.

Freedom from.

heroku · 08/06/2020 09:57

@trappedsincesundaymorn I'm so sorry - that's utterly shit.

And I'm neither a Remainer nor a Brexiteer. I'm a "I'm not a big fan of the EU but now is not the right time to rock the boat" -er.

Bollss · 08/06/2020 10:01

I didn't vote of im honest. I didn't feel informed enough!

Bollss · 08/06/2020 10:03

Now though I lean to the side of remain but perhaps out of fear of what would have followed Brexit but now this has happened and had an impact probably much bigger.

Basically I don't know but I don't think mid pandemic is the time to push anything though.

Are we still a pandemic? An epidemic?

Drivingdownthe101 · 08/06/2020 10:03

Apparently we don’t even have high enough infection rates now to be considered an ‘epidemic’.

Bollss · 08/06/2020 10:04

Oh blimey! They've not publicised that snippet of information have they?

Willitneverend · 08/06/2020 10:04

@trappedsincesundaymorn I'm sorry, that's rubbish. I hope something comes up soon.

Just had Peppa Pig on YouTube and bastard Scottish Government safety advert appeared in the middle. DS was like "mummy, let's skip this".

DrearyWallAntler · 08/06/2020 10:07

@trappedsincesundaymorn that's shit, I'm sorry.

I have just been asked to attend a 'personal update meeting' with our MD and head of HR on Thursday... No explanation.

So. Yeah. I will be updating my CV today and making a few calls.

(they only bought me off furlough last week so Im thinking it may not be thaaaat bad? (at least for me) but who knows.)

rosettesforjill · 08/06/2020 10:09

@trappedsincesundaymorn so sorry to hear about the redundancy Sad horrible news

Nihiloxica · 08/06/2020 10:10

I sort of think Brexit is an irrelevance now.

If we were willing to fuck our economy this much for no good reason we might as well have triggered Article 50 the day after the referendum.

All those Irish border arguments (that I used to make) looking pretty shaky now the supposedly uncloseable border has been shut for months.

Jesus, if the Welsh and Scottish are now demanding border closures then I guess borders are back in vogue on the left. 🤔

Is it too much to ask that people have some kind of consistency in their views and not just favour whatever is the correct view for their in-group?

SudokuBook · 08/06/2020 10:11

I’m so sorry @trappedsincesundaymorn. I’m in the same position. I lost my job on 13 May. It’s totally totally shite. I can’t believe they just told you by email too. At least I got a call and a reasonable financial settlement x

NowImLivinInExeter · 08/06/2020 10:12

Is it too much to ask that people have some kind of consistency in their views and not just favour whatever is the correct view for their in-group?

I completely agree.

Right wing politics go against pretty much everything I believe in but I have become increasingly frustrated and disillusioned by the lack of critical thinking and nuance on the left at the moment.

dkl55 · 08/06/2020 10:15

There does appear to be no critical thinking an no nuance. If you're not with us you're against us in a violent and dangerous way. It's bizarre. I do thing there's a very modern trend for self righteousness - I think it makes people feel good about themselves. There's some mad stuff going on on Twitter no as JK Rowling has objected to women being called "people who menstruate". Confused

Bollss · 08/06/2020 10:15

Yep they're all very good points.

It goes to show that people are very vocal about what they think is "the right thing to do" at the time but there's not much thought behind it. Like you say if there were, people couldn't support both things!

The economy is the biggest one. The single biggest issue (discussed on here at least!) Surrounding Brexit and yet people are happy to forget they ever said that and actively contribute to ruining it, possibly more than Brexit would have done.

It annoys me that people see "the economy" as rich bankers and such. It's not. It's everything. It's what funds the NHS for god sake, it's normal people being made redundant as evidenced on this thread.

I've seen the whole "it doesn't matter that's why there's UC"

Well for one where do they think they money comes from to pay for that? And for two it's a bloody disgrace. It's not enough to live on in any way shape or form.

Dowser · 08/06/2020 10:18

Re Italy and photos
The same photo of a hospital scenario was used for both italy and New York ..definitely somewhere in USA

I take the news, well we don’t watch tv news as I wanted to protect my mental health, with a pinch of salt.
I might’ve screen spotted the photo I’ll have a look.

onedayinthefuture · 08/06/2020 10:19

Completely agree with the comments about government and media scaremongering being akin to psychological warfare. It's been truly shocking.

Littlebelina · 08/06/2020 10:21

Sorry to hear that trapped, as Nih says you should be able to claim contribution based JSA for the first six months if you've been in work for a while. It's not much but it helps. Redundancy sucks (speaking from personal experience) but you will come through it.

I'm an ardent remainer and non dementor as well

Dowser · 08/06/2020 10:24

Found it. It’s why we can’t believe any old fanny
It’s all scare tactics

Anti dementors flock together
Nihiloxica · 08/06/2020 10:27

I have always been in a union when I've been employed and a big supporter of unionisation.

But I'd be wary of spending my money on union dues now unless I was confident the union was working in the genuine interests of their members.

In DH's job union intransigence over Covid working has meant that jobs will soon be lost because the union advised people not to do work that needed to be done due to safety fears.

Now they have found ways to do that work with a fraction of the number of people.

These changes would have come in gradually over the next few years and they expected the union to block them and to reduce staffing through natural attrition.

But now, with the collusion of the union, jobs have been made redundant over the course of a few months.

People sitting at home on full pay thinking they have a secure job to go back to are going to get a nasty shock.

If their union leaders had the wit they were born with, those jobs would still exist in the medium term.

Any union that is arguing that the work their members do is unimportant and can't be done due to "safety" is not a union it is worth joining.

Utter idiocy.

LivinLaVidaLoki · 08/06/2020 10:29

@Drivingdownthe101

Apparently we don’t even have high enough infection rates now to be considered an ‘epidemic’.
I saw that a few weeks ago, sure I posted on one of the first threads. Wonder why this hasn't been more publicised though.