Do you wonder WTAF?!

[Nikhedonia]

WTAF is going on at the minute, CoronaVirus, Donald Trump, the fact we still need to be told via protest that Black Lives Matter, seriously WTAF is happening in the world at the moment?!

I don't think I'll articulate this well, but I sometimes just think that this is a very weird time to be be alive. There's so much of it that is almost difficult to comprehend.

You’re brave to admit it, inappropropiate - unfortunately patriotism is bullshit. Ethics, compassion, progress - that’s what matters. Patriotism is cultural manipulation.

I wish more leave voters would speak up like you have. Thank you.

I heard two people in a queue saying similar - 'whatever happened to Brexit eh? All forgotten now!' It made my heart sink as I realised they've no idea what's coming their way.

Brexit on it's own was going to have very serious consequences but now, on top of the bombshell to the economy resulting from lockdown, the prospect is really desperate.

There are so many stories that are good and bad on either side and I don’t know what to believe.

Absolutely, you've summed it up there for a lot of Brexit voters. They were ripe for manipulation and Boris Johnson/Dominic Cummings/Michael Gove etc took full advantage of their confusion. Shame on them all, they don't care what people will suffer, they'll still be living the high life.

I actually feel less anxious now than when my diagnosed anxiety was at its worst. Yes, I'm medicated now but I always felt something dreadful was going to happen. Now it's happening I'm actually ok

Dominic Cummings doing an interview from his garden and with a straight face saying he drive 60 miles to a castle to test his eye sight (and getting away with it) is something that would have been a stretch even for Black Mirror.

They can literally get away with anything now. Brexit is happening at a terrifying time.

I don't agree that it went to shit for Boris, it's just that he's been exposed for the shit he is & has no idea what to do, that's why he's hanging on to Cummings. Now we're all in it with him. Other countries have kept there death toll under 1000, meanwhile he's still trying to convince us that the English response is world beating.

Yep, I think we will look back in around 10 years and go “holy shit, that was a ride”.

I voted leave but now I want to stay, is there any way this can be changed?

No, I don't think it can and for the two reasons being a) I think it would require another referendum and b) Johnson's whole mandate was "get Brexit done" and he's a leaver and surrounded himself with the same and will plough on regardless.

Those two things could be so wrong, but it's what I see. The worry for me is, the country is so buggered up because of the lockdown, we are in a totally weak position and will have to agree to almost anything to survive.

The next years are going to be grim and this for me is the big worry. Covid never was it will be a worry to me, but the fallout from it is really concerning.

The start is going to be when furlough conditions change/it ends and then watch the country tank.

I can remember people saying "Boris has got our backs" when the whole covid issue started. I never believed that then and sure as hell don't believe it now.

I totally agree that there is so much going on atm it's almost impossible to comprehend, but to talk about end of days is daft. It's just that we've been living in a golden age for so many years now that this is a huge shock. I'm sure during the two world wars people quite rightly would have been thinking the same thing but we gradually recovered, there have been loads of times of political unrest, waring nations - I think the Cuban Missile Crisis would have eclipsed all this tenfold. Overdramatic to think we haven't been here before horrible though it is.

Have we ever had a good PM? Since I’ve been alive it’s been Thatcher (I was just a kid though) John Major, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Cameron & Boris, who was the best? Thatcher?

I can remember people saying "Boris has got our backs" when the whole covid issue started. I never believed that then and sure as hell don't believe it now.

Anyone who thought (or thinks that) is either incredibly rich or incredibly naïve

A lot of people fell for Johnson - people have been falling for his act all his adult life, there's no denying the power of his charisma.

It's wearing off very quickly now though. He's in a situation where a lot of people who used to support him just aren't prepared to believe his lies, don't find him amusing or cute or even 'highly intelligent' anymore.

Trouble is it's only a few months since that massive majority and we're all stuck with him, Cummings and the whole rotten bunch of them.

Anyone who thought (or thinks that) is either incredibly rich or incredibly naïve

Oh I completely agree, but in RL I've been hammered for saying he doesn't care and on a couple of threads on here been flamed and reported for saying it. I was once told he is "the caring Prime Minister". Hmmm ok then

I’ve often wondered how Thatcher would have handled this.

I’ve often wondered how Thatcher would have handled this.

I doubt she would have funded the Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme.

What puzzles me is his continued insistence on boasting that people are envious of our response, that every initiative we take is "world beating", and that he's proud of what his government has achieved. Surely he doesn't think that anyone other than the terminally stupid actually believes all this, let alone that they are impressed by it? It increasingly makes him sound like a defiant little boy, trying to tell his mum that he hasn't done anything wrong, honest.

Surely he doesn't think that anyone other than the terminally stupid actually believes all this, let alone that they are impressed by it?

That's his problem - they have fallen for it in the past. Now it isn't working but what else can he do, he hasn't got any other tricks up his sleeve and the Tory press have stopped backing him to the hilt.

I also believe more and more that he is terminally stupid. And Cummings doesn't look too clever since the Rose Garden either..

Oh it's not that bad. CV has been challenging but it won't last forever. The world is still a wonderful place.

Challenging is an understatement and it is that bad, you may be okay with living where you can’t have people to your house, you can’t see your family members, you can’t send your kids to school, you may not be able to go to work, you can’t stand less than 2 m away from someone, you have to wash your hands every time you come in, you’ve got people phoning the police on their neighbours for going out, you had people dying alone without a funeral, and there is a shitload more but I wouldn’t call this ‘not that bad’, unless your a bit of a miserable person who enjoys living this way and who gets off on others misery.

@Inappropriatefemale it really isn't that bad. We now can see family. Restaurants and pubs are opening back up soon. Some schools are back. Many people, me included, have enjoyed and continue to enjoy working from home - the whole culture of commuting / wfh will probably shift now which can only be a good thing. People have and are suffering - which is awful - but being overly depressed about what we can't change doesn't help it.

I suppose I'm more glass half full than you are, @Inappropriatefemale

Speak for yourself, it’s that bad for me unfortunately, I’m in serious dental pain to the point I’m only eating soup.

The dentists, and most other businesses may be opening up soon down South but not here in Scotland they aren’t because we are 2 weeks behind England.

My MH has fallen and this has manifested in me with me not showering daily, sometimes twice a day, and I’m having to repeat my college course this year when I should be finished, so it’s that bad for some, there are folks in a worse position than me and obviously you so you cannot possibly say it’s not that bad.

I sometimes wonder if, in a Sliding Doors scenario, we've split off into this nightmare and somewhere, there is a parallel 2020 that's going on as normal

It started with the Brexit vote. We're in the leave reality. What a mess.

it really isn't that bad.

It's incredibly insensitive to say that. It might not be "that bad" for you, but you can't assume the same for others.

I'm the most half glass full person you could meet. I even drive myself mad let alone my friends & family with my eternal optimism.
Yet I'm starting to get very fed up & my moods are swinging from hope to despair & back again with this fucking twatting shithead coronavirus thing we're living through.
God how Id love to punch the living daylights out of Covid-19 & then some 🤬