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Jourdain11 · 31/05/2020 18:50

(I wouldn't dare to share the things DH has been known to say about his pupils anywhere else on here. They range from "not the brightest star in the sky" to "fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down"...)

SomewhereEast · 31/05/2020 18:50

We're planning to do some Europe by rail when ours are a little older. They're already very excited by the thought of sleeper trains! The Man in Seat 66 website is great for railway travel - he has a brilliant London to Istanbul itinerary I really want to do one day

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 31/05/2020 18:51

Ah, Jourdain, you're a better person than I!

(Also a teacher by profession here, though ex now. I expect your DH and I would be on the same page )

Jourdain11 · 31/05/2020 18:53

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

Ah, Jourdain, you're a better person than I!

(Also a teacher by profession here, though ex now. I expect your DH and I would be on the same page )

You probably would!

I won't get started on what he's said about some of the parents, ha...

TheAdventuresoftheWishingChair · 31/05/2020 18:53

This is interesting and also says no second wave is imminent. And that Germany’s lower fatality rate is not due to better lockdown

Thank you for linking to that. It's fascinating. It would be fabulous if there really was no second wave for now. If there has to be one, I think we all need a breather and to have some fun. He's obviously highly respected and intelligent.

I am holding my breath for this week just because half term is over and it'll be lovely to see life becoming that tiny bit more normal. I bet there are a few excited children about school going back tomorrow.

I went on Twitter today - I don't have an account and find it intimidating. Dear God but there are some frightened people on there scaremongering like there's no tomorrow. And some of them are people I respected. I would really like to fast forward 2 months now and to see the virus numbers decline further so we can move on from some of the worst bullshit. I hope that's the outcome anyway.

Bollss · 31/05/2020 18:55

Twitter is a weird echo chamber of doom at the best of times. I don't venture there any more.

Willow2017 · 31/05/2020 19:02

What are we supposed to do? Evaporate them for the week?
They dont care Jourdain11 as long as they spread thier fearmongering and they certainly have no time for solutions, far to busy preaching nonsense. Solutions would spoil thier agenda!

Cattermole · 31/05/2020 19:06

@Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy

I'd definitely recommend Cologne. DH and I have had lovely time there doing day trips from Brussels. We always have potatoes with assorted meats (I call it the farmyard special)! We'd recommend Munich and a trip to the Black Forest castles as well as Stuttgart if you like wine. If you can coincide your visit with the Oktoberfest it's fantastic fun (although these were pre-DD days so maybe terrible advice depending on the age of your children). If you want somewhere off the beaten track, I'd recommend Turin. It's got a fantastic Egyptian museum and film museum and does aperitvo, where you pay for your drinks and get a free/cheap buffet. It's the home of Martini and it tastes so fresh there (like Guiness from Dublin). The ice cream there s heavenly too. If you're tempted, this will swing the balance discoveritaly.alitalia.com/en/gb/destinations/turin/5-things-to-do-in-turin-castles-and-museums (Nothing to do with me I promise).

I have a mate who lives in Turin. The markets are AMAZING. (I got a cheap lipstick from a stall there 6 years ago that is still my go-to glam lippy.) Also the Basilica. One of the loveliest days of my life was going up with my chum and her husband - they got married there - on a sunny autumn afternoon, a van full of gentlemen were just putting away the folding picnic tables where they'd all been sitting out eating bread and sausage and salads and shooting the breeze, and they were feeding a coven of stray cats. I think it was a sort of football pilgrimage: it's the site of the fatal plane crash a few years ago.

Orangeblossom78 · 31/05/2020 19:11

The Doom seems to be flaring up again on MN - we had a morning thread of Doom for a while I remember. usually first thing

Orangeblossom78 · 31/05/2020 19:12

I would like to go to Iceland. Wonder if they have opened the Blue Lagoon now. (natural geothermal pool)

Orangeblossom78 · 31/05/2020 19:13

Key worker children have been making pizzas with the staff at out primary this week. No-one seems to have got ill over the months they have been ill, even though their parents are obviously nurses doctors etc.

ilovecardigans · 31/05/2020 19:14

@TheAdventuresoftheWishingChair I love Kathy Burke and have a lot of respect for her, but her Twitter feed is pretty much dementor central 24-7.

I'm struggling big time today and think I need to step away from t'internet for the time being.

LivinLaVidaLoki · 31/05/2020 19:14

I'll catch up on the thread in a bit, but, is anyone else here sick to death of being called a "Pollyanna" or accused of "pollyanna-ing" on here just because you dont believe we are all fucking doomed.
I'm a grown woman, educated, responsible...dont bloody well infantalise me just because we disagree!!!

heroku · 31/05/2020 19:16

The shielding chat is very strange. Why do people suddenly think the government should be dictating what is safe for us to do? We're grown adults. Anyone with a compromised immune system already has to make choices about their lifestyle based on their level of risk. We make decisions about risk all the time - every time we cycle to work or drink a whole bottle of wine to ourselves. I don't want the government making those decisions for me (especially not the wine one ).

Jourdain11 · 31/05/2020 19:17

@Orangeblossom78

Key worker children have been making pizzas with the staff at out primary this week. No-one seems to have got ill over the months they have been ill, even though their parents are obviously nurses doctors etc.

DH made chocolate crispy cakes with his in Week 1 of lockdown school. Nobody complained! (Or got ill.)

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Drivingdownthe101 · 31/05/2020 19:23

Interestingly in our school, where they’ve had key worker children in for the past 10 weeks (between 35 and 50 every day), they haven’t had a single family (or teacher) needing to self isolate for symptoms. And that’s with parents who are Dr’s, nurses, paramedics and care home staff. The head mentioned it in an email to governors today.

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Orangeblossom78 · 31/05/2020 19:26

I'm just ignoring all the other threads except this one! (except to quickly look and return aghast ) the levels of blatant lies and weirdness!

Orangeblossom78 · 31/05/2020 19:27

It's just all kicking off as lockdown is slowly easing and it's provoking them isn't it. Leaving their 'safe bubbles' even though it is mostly by choice

DominaShantotto · 31/05/2020 19:28

@Drivingdownthe101

Interestingly in our school, where they’ve had key worker children in for the past 10 weeks (between 35 and 50 every day), they haven’t had a single family (or teacher) needing to self isolate for symptoms. And that’s with parents who are Dr’s, nurses, paramedics and care home staff. The head mentioned it in an email to governors today.

Our head just complains and never ever mentions the children in governors stuff at the moment. I've gone from rating the school really highly for SEN, being caring, warm and approachable to losing pretty much every ounce of respect I once had for the head. I get that she's scared, and she's protecting her staff and doing what she thinks is right - but the tone of the emails to parents has just alienated them all completely (we get a weekly bollocking basically) and the kids were all but forgotten.

I'm terrified of doing the first school drop off tomorrow "wrong" and incurring wrath!

Currently sat typing up uni lecture notes in the dark in the kids' room trying to make sure DD2 goes to sleep at a sensible time so isn't totally vile tomorrow for 'em! (The one plus point with this whole fiasco is that the money I saved on not commuting down to uni and parking and stuff has gone on me buying myself a lovely macbook I've wanted for months and months and months at least - which might not kill my back if I ever get to go back to uni, if the trains ever let more than 3 people on, and if uni ever decide to hold a physical lecture again! Otherwise my nice lecture recording software etc - so I can have audio records of my notes to support my dyslexia - is totally fucking pointless as it doesn't play with me streaming lectures online well at all.

Orangeblossom78 · 31/05/2020 19:29

So, why so they think our non key worker children are so much more of a risk that children who already are more in contact with parents who work front line? Ot makes no sense.

And yes these weeks would have shown illness / death which would have been apparent in the media if there had been any from the key worker children, who have not been social distancing / pizza making etc

Orangeblossom78 · 31/05/2020 19:30

I'm terrified of doing the first school drop off tomorrow "wrong" and incurring wrath!

At least if we need to stay back easier to escape! and not have to chat to them (school) perhaps?

LivinLaVidaLoki · 31/05/2020 19:31

And also....sorry I'm on one now. I'm sick of being called selfish or being told that I dont care about anyone but myself. I know that sounds like small fry but it pisses me off.
I work with vulnerable children and young people. I have implemented processes and systems for them which have massively increased outcomes for them (one of these things has helped reduce youth homelessness by around 80%), sometimes at a significant personal cost.
While they have spent the last 10 weeks of lockdown cowering behind their sofa waiting for the sky to fall in or making paper mache models with their kids, I've been firefighting significant issues with children and young people around this whole bloody mess.
So please, do not call me selfish just because my altruism is not limited to calling someone a cunt for wanting to go to the park.
And while I'm here....you dont want to send your child to school because its not safe? Fine. Just don't try and force me to not be able to send mine.

LivinLaVidaLoki · 31/05/2020 19:34

@Orangeblossom78
The truth is they don't believe it's any safer for keyworker children, they are just happy for them to go in so that there are doctors and nurses in the hospitals, carers in the community, shopworkers so they can go to the supermarket. They knew if that stopped they would be fucked. Their concern has never been about the children, only themselves. If they were that arsed about school being dangerous they would have petitioned for all those services to stop so keyworkers could all keep their kids at home. But they didnt.

DominaShantotto · 31/05/2020 19:37

@Orangeblossom78

I'm terrified of doing the first school drop off tomorrow "wrong" and incurring wrath!

At least if we need to stay back easier to escape! and not have to chat to them (school) perhaps?

I get on brilliantly with the class teachers - their checking up phonecalls tended to end up with me and the teacher putting the world to rights (and complaining about the teaching unions) for a good hour! I don't go so far as to call them friends, but they are people I get on very well with and they tend to chat quite candidly to me about what's actually going on in the school. (Or how terrible lockdown TV has been)

The teaching staff are genuinely utterly superb - I've told them before I'm jealous of just how flipping good they are - the head's just lost perspective and her usual sense of being unflappable throughout all of this and has kind of lost the sense of the school being about the children rather than the policies. I understand it - I just don't flipping well like it! (Mind you the entire country seems to have forgotten about the children in all of this - although I did come across usforthem on twitter who are at least trying to defend against some of the school lunacy (and don't seem too crazily illiterate "end lockdown cos we are freemen of the land" types)

BakewellTarts · 31/05/2020 19:42

And while I'm here....you dont want to send your child to school because its not safe? Fine. Just don't try and force me to not be able to send mine.

Could not agree more with this.