My DH is on a work Zoom, and OMG the 'jargon'

[BlackAmericanoNoSugar]

Scrum teams
Scrum master
Scrum of scrums
Cadence
Enterprise level agile
Continuous integration pipeline
We can drill into that later
Operate at scale
I'll drive on and we can circle back
Acceptance test driven development
Decomposition of requirements
Just to land that point on the ground
Chain of tools

That's just the last three minutes. Safe to say I have no clue what's going on there.

I agree ‘at the coal face’ is a normalised term but its origins are historically and literally to do with being a coal miner. So what started as a term specific to an industry evolved to a generic “frontline” in any industry statement. It’s jargon in that usage, much the same way “drill deeper on this” is jargon.

Anyway, it made me laugh, and now I’m wondering how many of the phrases in the OP will actually catch on to everyday use and be forgotten about as corporate wankspeak.

I don't think the scrum ones are bad, they are terms with a specific technical meaning, we have scrums in my job. The other ones in the list are awful though.

Agree that a scrum etc are effective project techniques and although they may sound like bs they are very useful

This approach is what makes things like Netflix so reliable. I have just qualified in DevOps and it is clear that it’s the reason behind the continued success of many tech companies.

@WingBingo this made me laugh:

ryanmarkel.com/4753/death-star-ii-as-an-agile-project/

Ha ha yes, so true. Minimum viable product?

Sure, you only asked for lasers.

Agile is brilliant, honestly quite revolutionary from a work flow point of view (only plan small bits at a time, release work in small chunks when it's done, fail fast) but oh my goodness, the jargon is quite something. Story points, burn downs, epics, retrospectives, user journeys, roadmaps...

Variant of Mornington Crescent?

"We are where we are" - in my previous role this was shorthand for "Yes, we know there's been a monumentous fuck up but instead of discussing how it happened let's get on with working out how we sort it"

Incidentally, the lack of discussing why it happened was why the monumental fuck ups kept happening

IT projects!

Surely they're having a game to see who can come up with the most jargon??

I had a scarily senior colleague who worked on a project with a bullshit bingo merchant. She clearly found the whole thing killingly funny and discretely kept a list of all his best phrases in the back of her notebook. It’s truly hilarious. My favourite is “we need a whip and a chair to control this project”. It’s a whole A4 page of them. Rewind the video, let’s go from soup to nuts, giving aircover, brontosaurus delivery curve and the ever present granularity! She left the organisation at least 10 years ago but there are many tatty photocopies of that list still knocking around the place.

On a related note, I first heard the phrase “shall we open the kimono” in 2008. I remember it well. It was a very high level corporate negotiation and the other side was led by an ex Wall Street Investment banker. We were all brits and ran a famously no bullshit business. There has never been a greater culture clash than that specific moment as we all looked down at our papers and tried not to smirk. The deal didn’t get done and the other side went spectacularly broke 6 months later. I like to think the two things are connected.

With all the different posters who use agile on this thread I still cant work out if its supposed to be an adverb, noun or an adjective. I cant work out what type of thing it actually is.

And I googled scrum and it just days an agile framework!

It sounds like an awful lot of willy waving to me!

Rat that would have been hard it made me smirk / laugh just now.

I don’t really know what a scrum is, is it only for IT?

I did work somewhere where the boss talked up agile and flexible working. It died a death when he realised he’d rather us present and on static timing.

A scrum is a small team of people. Usual software developers or coders.

OMG...

I must admit to finding it just very so slightly funny that there are complaints in "this place" about "other places" using jargon and occasionally acronyms.....

John 8:7 .....or AIBU?

TTFN....

@YellowHats see if this makes sense:

www.wrike.com/project-management-guide/faq/what-is-agile-methodology-in-project-management/

Its a project management approach, used a lot in software.

Does your DH work with me? 😀

I love minimum viable product as a concept. My engineers less so! They are always sulking about doing the right/preferred/full option as opposed to implementing what is needed and then seeing how that goes with feedback. A bit of carrot and stick is used in our bucket based project as things I will stamp my feet about not doing go in bucket 1, and most of the things they want to do in bucket 3 (optional). So in addition to the weekly burn down charts, they also are self motivated to get to the fun bits

A scrum is a small team of people. Usual software developers or coders.

But what's wrong with saying 'small team'?

@CMOT

I’m hoping to work in IT and I’m not sure I understood that.

@DrDreReturns it makes sense. And I can see why it works

Buttheres still an awful lot of bs words there for what seems like a common sense/logical approach. I dont really understand why its groundbreaking

Yeah I also dont understand why scrum and scrum master. As opposed to universally used 'team' and 'leader'. Is it to make it more exciting? Is it like when you pretend a spoon is an aeroplane so children will eat their food, we need to pretend teams are scrums so men will comply more?

I’m a scrum master. I’m sure agile employs stupid terminology just to make people pay for courses to understand what it’s supposed to mean. Eg, ‘ceremonies’ = regular meetings. “stories”= jobs to do. “Backlog” = list of jobs.

Prn yes sounds it could be

Is there anything you learn in a course about agile which isn’t just new language to describe small teams led by someone to do work quickly and flexibly?

Pen rather