We're all going on a summer holiday

[MinnieMountain]

Even if it means 2 weeks of quarantine
The anti -dementors are here to be reasonable and sensible about everything.

Did anyone see the report in the telegraph about Johnson asking health officials to look into the possibility of relaxing the 2m rule? That would make it viable for a lot more places to open and make shopping etc a much more pleasant experience.

I wish that at one of the briefings they would categorically say that people don’t need to step in the road/hide in bushes when people go past - it drives me up the wall ...

Another irritant is the number of places making up their own bonkers infection control rules. One riding school near us is encouraging everyone to wash their clothes immediately they get home to ‘get rid of any nasty, hidden germs’. And another one’s put out a video showing off their new procedures which includes one of their instructors taking off and putting on the same disposable mask several times, touching the front of it and putting it away in a bum bag and then wearing it to disinfect a horse’s reins when there’s no human around and they’re in the open air.... people are treating masks like some magic talisman 😬

I saw that article Pleasedontdothat. I had a feeling the 2m rule might be looked at soon. I smiled evilly at the thought of the dementors' heads exploding as the change is announced.

Poor things. They've already lost "stay the fuck at home ". The Clap's due to end. What if leaping into hedges goes too...

Thank god the clap has ended. Virtue signalling should be reserved for social media.

Is this the last clapping week, or was that last week?

I don't need to leap into hedges anymore; between increased footfall and dry weather, the paths have magically widened back to their intended widths

I think tonight is. Not that I will be joining in.

Oooh I just saw a dementor in the wild. Sat in a queue at the petrol station. Dementor put gloves on to pump petrol (I wouldn't bother but fair enough), got back into car, didn't take off gloves, proceeded to touch steering wheel, rearview mirror, indicator stalk, put on sunglasses, play with fringe, and drive off with the gloves still on. What does she think the gloves are doing? Does she think they're magic?

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito you just made me laugh with 'a dementor in the wild' . I saw one this morning in full mask, gloves and safety glasses - driving to work. On a dual carriageway (70mph). On her own in her car. She must have been in the car for at least 20 minutes so the mask would have been useless when she got to wherever she was going!

Has the last clap been officially announced? I always forget about it until I need something from the car/garage and open the front door to hear the noise and quickly close it again - I like to appreciate everyone all year round every year by not being a dick rather than by clapping for a minute 😃

I know of one person who's died because of CV-19 - actually, because of the lockdown. They were an addict in recovery, several years clean, with a good job and doing well, who went to a lot of NA meetings. Meetings have all gone on-line, which the person found less supportive and useful. They relapsed and overdosed.

Pretty sure their death will just be shrugged off as just a dirty addict doing what addicts do.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52822055

Some wonderful dementoring there from the BBC.

Although I am heartened that most of the of the comments are saying the spinning this into a negative is a bit of a stretch.

That’s so sad miss library. The meetings so important for alcoholics and drug addicts

I know of one person who has died of CV19 - a colleague’s ex-MIL. She was very elderly and frail with numerous health conditions. The three other members of her family that got it all recovered quickly and completely.

My MIL has had a positive antibody test but my FIL’s was negative. BIL thinks MIL got it from him and he picked it up in London in Feb.

I think I’ve had it, mildly, but without a test, who knows.

I keep seeing people driving their cars wearing masks and gloves. I was waiting in the car outside our co-op this morning while DH was faffing at the post office. 2 cars pulled up with drivers wearing gloves and masks, they go into the co-op, come out and drive away - still wearing the same gloves and masks. I don’t get it

There was a woman ranting on FB yesterday about people not wearing gloves. Lots of people tried to explain to her that unless you change them for every single thing you do, you’re just spreading germs everywhere. She replied to say that she dipped hers in bleach every night and everyone else was just selfish.

DIL ended up in hospital after 10 days of what she truly believes was covid this was before the realisation dawned that it was here. She would love an antibody test but asks would she still show signs of having it? I believe she had it, ticked all the boxes. She works in holiday lets so changing beds and cleaning all the time, lots of overseas visitors.

This queuing in the co-op has led to some nice chats. One lady buying pizzas for grandchildren, DD is in the police so works shifts, kids in school so granny picks them up feeds them and waits for DD to get home. This is the reality we can`t be safe in every case.

Another lady her friend is stuck in Fuerteventura, flight turned back weeks ago. 35c there yesterday her friend is so fed up.

I think for many people the gloves and masks are basically magic anti-infection talismans. It's a way of thinking as old as time - 500 years ago it would have been a holy medal instead - and it seems vaguely medical so it's easy to mentally justify it as "protecting" you. Many people seem to fuzzily think that masks protect them, rather than somewhat protecting other people if they themselves are infectious, hence the number of people wearing them while walking outdoors or alone in a car.

@BarkandCheese

It also makes a mockery of the “no underlying conditions” thing. I’m not privy to the medical history of everyone I’ve ever know. I’m sure there are people I would consider I know well who have something which would be considered an underlying condition I know absolutely nothing about.

Absolutely! I have a friend who I wojld consider close. She came to my wedding and I came to hers. We see each other about once a month in normal times and I would say I know her and her husband well. I was very surprised to find her husband was in the shielded group- he is 30. Not everyone broadcasts their health conditions all over the place.

Well my workplace is now officially considering redundancies. Fab.

My friend her OH picture of health fit walks up mountains, shielded because his spleen had to be removed after an accident. Not everything is apparent.

If anyone has sky, they can go onto BBC Wales, Scotland, to see how the other half lives. Dreading the news to be honest, can we now sit on grass do you think?

Haunted, I agree with the magic talismans. At Tesco over the weekend a bloke reached over my shoulder to grab something. So close he was touching me. When I objected he just said “Dur! Mask and gloves love, where’s yours?” I told him to fuck off. He’s probably worn the same mask and gloves all week

I live in Northumberland (population approx 320,000), and know personally one person with Covid19 who was in hospital, and two elderly people who died with it, although they were in care homes in Tyne and Wear.

We have been out committing grannycide this morning (and I say that as a granny) - we went to a plant nursery and then DH suggested we went for a drive. So up the A696 towards Scotland and then we cut off onto the moors. Very few cars on the A696, lots more on the country roads, and masses of motorbikes, invariably speeding. It was so lovely to be out with the sunroof open: the hedges were full of May blossom, bluebells in the woods, and forget me nots in the verges.

I see the teachers' union are now saying that they can't go back to school until the BAME R figures are low.

Sympathies, @TrustTheGeneGenie. My DH got notice of redundancy earlier this week. It's shit, isn't it?

It really is allflights it's a smallish family business too so it's not going to be a fair selection who get made redundant it's going to be whoever isn't related! Which is me unfortunately!

Oh no! Similar situation with DH. His face used to fit but for some reason it stopped doing that a few months ago. More recently he's been given credit for nothing, blame for everything and now he's out.

Lovely.

I hope it turns out better than you think.