Anti Dementors Party with Patronii

[LilacTree1]

Are you out there, my lovelies?

I’ve just come from the bubble thread. Classrooms being arranged with desks around the outside and children facing the wall.
I can’t even put into words my anger at this point. 😠

Going back to Spanish flu versus now just over 100 years later. I bet there weren’t many houses in my home town had an i door bathroom.
Think of the hygiene.
My grandparents had a toilet down the bottom of the yard. I don’t remember there even being a sink in it.
Their bath was in the kitchen, the lid on it was the kitchen table.
That would have been built before the 2nd world war as my grandparents were bombed out of their first house and had to move into this house in the adjacent street. So it’s easily a 1920s or earlier house.
It’s still standing. A bedroom was turned into an indoor bathroom round about the 1960s.
A lot died but a lot survived.

I got the smallpox vaccine in 1974 . I went with my first husband to Spain for a holiday and it was requirement. I think it was phased out the following year.

Just spoken with DD who was At a local park yesterday. The kiosk is open serving drinks, ice creams and snacks and a lot more family groups were were picnicking.
Shouldn’t think much will be going on today. It’s very windy.
I need to pop into town..if I can be arsed.
I need to make my lovely man some cakes don’t I?
Bless him, he’s dropped enough hints.
( I did take him out for an indian meal last night)

pick it certainly is windy round these parts.

Not our Lea but we are right next door and this will put the winds up our head.

As far as I know County Durham are still planning to open despite sitting between Hartlepool and Sunderland.

I do wonder where some people are getting their info from, there seems to be quite a lot of either total misinformation or mixing up stories. On FB today I saw someone post that 70 school children had died (I'm guessing from the 70 french cases) and I did try to point out the flaws in the Bristol school meme, it seems that one school had a case but they kept open, and then another special school had to close, but somehow this ended upas hundreds of people in self Isolation. There is a lot of extensive sharing on FB of random memes, strangely many by those in the past who have regularly moaned about sharing of incorrect memes especially from dubious pages.

onedayinthefuture >This was never meant to be long term, it was just about easing the burden on the NHS.

Yes. Back then we were trying to not break the NHS while discharging sick old people back into care homes and flailing around trying to get vacuum cleaner companies to produce ventilators while the offers from the ventilator makers were ignored. At least we were at 20% sanity then.

The logic of not breaking the NHS included the idea that lives that would otherwise be lost could be saved by staying within its capacity. Forget the herd immunity blind alley. A pandemic was unfolding and some lives could be saved. Great.

Somewhere between Rishi declaring that there was a magic money tree and our reaching nine weeks of the collective clap, Stayathome became an unshakeable religion, one that Bealert has hardly dented.

I try to see a coherence in policy but am not getting anywhere.

All names...that is just disgusting
I could weep

Median age of fatalities here is 80

@Allnamesaregone I just don't get why they're making it worse than it needs to be. I can only imagine it's to make some sort of point?

Domina like you I was initially supportive of lockdown. I'd seen the interview with the doctor in Italy and the wards of unresponsive patients- I was keen to avoid that happening here. I was also keen to ensure the NHS was not overwhelmed.

It was only as the weeks passed and I found from Mumsnet the actual data around who had died that I started to question the wisdom of an ongoing lockdown. Naively I did not realise that our glorious First Minister and her acolytes would use a pandemic as a political tool with us as her pawns. I'm so angry and bitter that our tiny chink of freedom is being withheld for another week. If we can meet with a friend on May 28th what makes it so fatal to meet up today (and indeed we had planned to but the Scottish weather had other plans).

The only bright side is I agree with what someone said up thread. Those of us who no longer see the wisdom of this are just quietly going about our business and making our own risk assessment of the situation. Traffic is increasing daily on the roads as is footfall in the open shops. People may say they are in favour of an extended lockdown, but their actions belie that .

I don’t want to annoy people by posting too many links here

Woukd you rather I set up a different thread or threads?

After the concerns re cash, I just thought I’d flag up the Bank of England wants views on a digital currency

The stuff can be found on the website but the email address to send your views is quite hidden IMHO

so this is it

[email protected]

Weeds on Spanish flu.

Yes. The three paragraphs after the first graph here give a straightforward summary. Link might work or not...

www.vaccinestoday.eu/stories/100-years-spanish-flu-world-ready-next-pandemic/

I can remember studying Spanish Flu (in different ways and at different lengths) in History, Biology and Geography. I was the student who asked whether we were due something like it again in our lifetimes.

Contrary to the myth that it has been forgotten I have studied and read about it repeatedly and we visit the London grave of the infant in my Dad's family who died in the pandemic every couple of years.

Here’s the info re the bank

www.bankofengland.co.uk/paper/2020/central-bank-digital-currency-opportunities-challenges-and-design-discussion-paper?sf122763202=1

@DominaShantotto

I know it's a while back (I've been out remonstrating with my mum, who is flatly refusing to be murdered by me ) but I wholeheartedly agree with your posts re: the teachers' unions

Just had a letter from the councils re schools. Very balanced, very much working towards getting schools to open but also urging people to be aware that as all schools are different the offerings may vary.

Seems ok.

I've been to many a drunken garden party in Stabbo

I'm 8 miles west of the garden centre in the land of eternally bungled roadworks. (We normally swim at the big pool with the broken waterslide... not the small one with the broken waterslide )
We've had a detailed letter from school about a phased return 1-8 June. The tone was cautiously positive. Thank goodness Banwait and his cronies lost control as I'm sure they'd have politicked all over this. The everyone-else coalition seems to be more sensible and measured in general.

Our rubbish tip is by appointment only on reduced hours. It normally gridlocks the industrial estate it's on. One councilor has been very impressed with the efficiency of the new system. Great. Except it's not dealing with the latent demand. We finished major DIY work in the winter, and with how relentlessly soggy it was for months until lockdown, we still have a double garage full of DIY waste to dispose of. We can sit on it for now but at some point all the households like ours will have to have the capacity at the dump to clear out.

Lilac tree
I’m happy for stuff on here and /or another thread

Keep cash alive. Prove davI’d Icke wrong lol

Orangeblossom: >Median age of fatalities here is 80

Thanks. So if we did a box plot the top end of Q1 might be around 70?

I suppose so. I got the stats from recent study on UK deaths / ICU..

Is it still frowned on to take children or send older children to the shops I wonder?

Still no email from school here. they are leaving it a bit late

County Durham have been quite sensible. They kept most parks open, too, apart from the play areas. Not that you can do much in Wharton Park, other than risk life and limb getting from one side to the other!

Yeah Orangeblossom I keep jumping every time my email goes off - but it's flipping DD emailing me photos of their tent which nearly blew away in the grandparents' house!

I took my DCs into a tiny corner shop yesterday, their first shop in 2 months. I then left them in the car at our local precinct. At 7&9, they're a funny in-between age.on supervision.

We've had industrial burgers for lunch
When the DCs had their first ones last week, they were rolling their eyes in ecstacy!
Thousands died

I didn't realise it was frowned on to send children to the shops! I have been sending both DDs out on errands to our local store since lockdown began. Part of how they help out but has also helped build life skills and independence. Including how to use the post older DD who wanted to send a birthday present to one of her BFFs and how to talk to shop assistants younger DD who was unsure where to find something.

I guess they committed untold amounts of murder!

@Orangeblossom78
I hope not, my older kids have been to our local shop for me a million times (I bake. A lot. To pass the endless time).
And then on Saturday when I lost my shit because my husband was sanding a floor and didn't think to try and prevent the foot of dust settling all over the house, I sent the older two on a walk with the little one and the dog. We all needed to not be around each other for a while!

A friend a teacher secondary, says the head speaks to them on zoom type thingy but will not be drawn at all on when school re-opens. Is it because he does not want anything leaking or because he has no bloody clue himself.