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Are you out there, my lovelies?

So I’m new to this thread of dementors really but I thought I would give another perspective. I’m shielded and my DH is shielding with me for my safety. For us this is necessary . Neither of us has gone out the house, except DH for a quick walk. I’ve decided my garden is safe for me, but not going for a walk as we couldn’t guarantee people would step 2m away from me and being in a wheelchair I can’t jump off the path 😂

So I’ve had to unfollow a lot of people on Facebook who are throffing at Londoners and people leaving their cramped high rise flats to go in a park and then posting their pictures of their 3hkur walks in the countryside or on the beach as they are lucky enough to live there. Of course going outside is good for everyone, especially those rammed in London flats.

For me the no drive and closed car parks means we can’t risk driving me anywhere to go to a car park by a beach etc. Also for us having people come to our garden and not go through the house means we can safely socially distance and I can see people and it’s in my control. But travelling to meet in a park risks other people coming too close so we have seen no one.

Apart from the Tesco delivery driver and people leaving my medication on the doorstep. I feel like crying seeing the delivery people (I leave them all a chocolate bar).

At the beginning I even felt guilty that I felt safe and lucky in my bubble and happy and enjoying my life.

I think safely socially distancing in homes should be allowed as it’s actually easier to control than in a park. And people shouldn’t be competing in their misery and telling tourists to fuck off home as they’ll need them for their jobs soon!

Everyone needs to be nice and try and find happiness and enjoy life as much as possible

I loathe Johnson. He's a lazy, arrogant twat.

But my biggest fear is that he's a populist and it looks, for now, as if the popular vote is for a permanent retreat from a free society.

But I think that's changing, and I think the Tories are way better at polling than Labour.

I would like to think that Starmer is a man of principle.

But actual Labour principles don't line up with closing down society. So if he's going to be the Oppsition leader we need, he needs to be a lot stronger of the principle that the government shouldn't get to imprison people in their homes for months.

A left wing that supports indefinite lockdown by th incompetent, dishonest Tory government has no coherent political position.

@Weedsnseeds1 maybe we should keep a list of friendly places for when we’re looking for holidays next year. I’ll add clevedon to the list!

Hi Cherry, welcome and thanks for that perspective.

@CherryStoneTree that’s really touched me. I wish they’d investigate what was safe for people in your position so we could all have a much better evaluation of risk (or tell us that they are if they are). It’s unfair to just say lock yourself away to so many people. Human contact is the best way of dealing with stress and online isn’t the same.

Tbh I think Kier Starmer and Labour in general have a delicate line to tread in opposition during a crisis, and in general I think the "constructive opposition" approach seems to be a sensible one. I'd love it if they were saying all the things I've been thinking but I don't think that would go down well with many people atm The last I read was that Kier Starmer was calling for government to reach an agreement with the unions so they could get more children in schools; that might not be as strong as statement as some would like but at least he's not parroting the union position on it. And realistically what can Kier Starmer and Labour actually achieve atm?! (I don't know enough about this; politics depresses me so much that I barely follow it.)

Everyone needs to be nice and try and find happiness and enjoy life as much as possible

This with bells on...and keep out of thy neighbours business!

Humans are social and thats why we are successful.

The DC farce is now because they know that they have been shit the past few weeks, they don't want to give into the unions and they know shit is likely to hit the fan. Now when the public just go "feck this for a game of soldiers" and just go about their normal business and negative stuff can be batted back to the public being at fault.

It is an absolute shambles.

Wales Burnham-on-Sea also seems moderate down here. Even the Bristol Post picked up on how hostile Weston is being.
Or come inland (avoiding Cheddar, who ard also a bit frothy, although to be fair, they genuinely have been somewhat over run, resulting in the police closing the gorge, which pissed them all off as its an actual road that avoids you having to drive round the Mendips the long way, rather than over them, if you need to go to work that way, which a lot do) where we are rational in the main and have been interpreting things to suit us all along.

If you want to see how labour would handle covid look at what Wales is doing. Drakeford a true socialist believes the state should look after us all, westminster has a money tree he can shake when he wants more money. Westminster have given a shed load of money for furlough, small businesses, well you try jumping through every hoop to get hold of any of it. They were breezily telling folk nope you do not qualify. Luckily conservative assembly members in N Wales got to hear of this and stepped in. Our councils were squirreling the money away in their own depleted pots. One friend a legal beagle threatened them with action after researching the documentation, they caved in her case. But how many have given up.

Oh and in terms of storing up problems, community health and social care services have pretty much stopped (at least from a physical rehab/prevention pov) so not only are people not receiving services, when they do open up there will be a massive backlog. I am actually quite scared about what the potential consequences will be.

"If you want to see how labour would handle covid look at what Wales is doing."

I disagree. England is not Wales and Starmer is most definitely not Drakeford.

"Cherrystone* it's people in your position who are being punished by all the anti-travel, make if as difficult as possible for anyone to salvage a shred of normality, draconian measures put in place. We can legally go for day trips as long as we show a modicum of commen sense, so why make it do damn hard for people?

@justasking - welsh labour are a disgrace. I don’t know what mythical number they want us to achieve to be able to meet friends and family in the open air without breaking the law. It’s insane. I don’t know if I can ever support them again. I can’t vote plaid as I don’t want the assembly to have more powers after this shit show and Lib Dem’s are represented by Kirsty Williams who has forgotten that she represents children as well as teachers.

@Weedsnseeds1 that’s good to know as I’ve got a holiday near burton on sea this summer! We had a lovely time last time we went there and talk about it often

I think for Wales and Scotland it's a little different in that they have another agenda. They both want to prove they can do what they want and they don't have to follow England's lead. I think (and perhaps I'm wrong) even if they were Tories they'd be doing the "were different and we'll do as we please" routine.

Ahh we went to Burnham-on-Sea last summer for a couple of days, it was lovely.

Sorry Burnham-on-Sea not burton. Fat fingers!

Someone start a new thread?

We've been watching Killing Eve from the start, too. Just got into season 2.

@Weedsnseeds1 that’s exactly it. The thought of being stopped and having a police officer (through no fault of their own they’re doing their job) stick their possible contagious head in through the window is what keeps me in. But having someone who knows to behave come and sit in my back garden is easy for me to control.

But then I still need people to go to the chemist for me as that’s too much interaction for my DH to risk. But there’s some that see shielded people going for a walk where they know they will be able to keep their distance and then decide they can go shopping. Huge difference.

I can’t imagine anything worse than those living in Italy in flats and not allowed out at all. That’s horrible. All those in London that have no outside space.

People are judging others and no one knows what others are going through.

Another natural leftie feeling confused here. Definitely willing to give Starmer a chance though.

We went to drop off a birthday present today, and it was lovely to have a little drive way to door way chat with an actual adult. Phones are great and I have been video calling my best friend ever week, but its not the same. After seeing each other last weekend we have agreed that it made us both feel so much better and that we will do it again soon.

I feel bit tearful/sorry for myself tonight, but just watched a really old 8 out of 10 cats repeat with Jon Richardson looking very good in a waistcoat so that has cheered me a little.

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Sir Keir Starmer is a labour politician who accepted a knighthood, it was when he was the DPP. Principles anyone?

@Weedsnseeds1that website you quoted from looks really good please could I have the link.