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Are you out there, my lovelies?

I just had to share this. To be fair applies to almost all media I have seen.

Driving you must be INCREDIBLY close to me then since the county boundary is about half a mile away!

I think if there were going to be a horrendous second peak we would have seen evidence of it in the countries around China who got the disease firsts and locked down and reopened first.

The bit that pisses me off was that we were told, based on all the modelling that locking down was going to delay and spread out the peak to keep us below the point of NHS capacity being exceeded and at some point the rhetoric was changed on us to locking us down so there was no peak ever again. I supported the initial lockdown, I felt relieved when it happened - but then I realised that we had basically collectively signed our own indefinite prison sentence and how the language was changing to not just managing the inflow of cases versus capacity, to trying to stop the disease altogether.

We will never stop a virus completely - the way replication and mutation happens and viruses mutating to jump species barriers guarantees that - in all of human history we've managed to eradicate one disease - and that was back in an era before idiocy on the internet took off.

We have to learn how to coexist with this, like we coexist with all the other shit in nature that has the potential to kill us - and that includes people being given the information, and the critical thinking skills, to be able to understand and evaluate risk a bit more effectively than they do at the present.

Whatever we do, at some point we will NEED to unlock - or humanity will become extinct with us cowering in front of our expended netflix queues - and whenever we unlock the figures are inevitably going to rise somewhat.

And the teaching unions are just fucking incredibly stupid. They had a golden opportunity in terms of public good will and understanding just how hard it is to actually TEACH your children and shoulder all of that responsibility, they had the public actually for once remotely near getting it and understanding the reality... they could have had people really engaged and interested and supporting them in terms of improving conditions for their members... and they blew it in a pissing contest with Boris about who could widdle the highest up the urinal wall.

DominaShanttoto I agree with your post.

Dementors a couple of weeks ago:

Stay the fuck at home, follow the Roolz!!!!

Do what the Roolz say. The Roolz are all that matters.

Dementors now:

I know the Roolz say you can go to the beach now, but why are you going to the beach.

Answering back some dicks now who say golfers, fisherman are breaking the law. No fishing/golf allowed they are blustering, well ahem, I provided links to the updates, they dont like it up em. No boat fishing, well dear check ais maps, lots of fishing going on. The stupidity of people.

@DominaShantotto I completely agree.

In so many cases they are guidelines, not LAW!! why can the dementors not understand that. (bangs head against wall)

Brava Domina 👏

@justasking111 my father in law's been out boat fishing every bloody day! He's turned the thing out that the coastguard would use to track him and he's carrying on regardless (in the Scottish Islands)

Domina good for him

just I’m constantly saying that on threads - about guidelines vs law.

I am so pleased to find some like minded people. Mumsnet was a scary place when this first started. I just despair at how many sheep and bullies there are. This was never meant to be long term, it was just about easing the burden on the NHS. Now we all have to get used to a new normal? Fuck that!! I really hope human nature wins overall in this. Social distancing is NOT natural for any length of time. So much focus on schools reopening but when will our kids even be able to start back at their sports clubs or go to the play park? Childhood goes by very quickly, please don't let us rob them of that. I feel so angry.

I'd see a 'normal' second peak as being something 3-12 months down the line from the first. China and S Korea have had some flare-ups but they are societies who can stamp on things better than we can.

Domina makes a good point about Smallpox. I wouldn't bank on a vaccine for CV. If there is one, great, but it's prudent to assume there won't be one.

Ooh interesting DominaShantotto, sounds like we’re practically neighbours!

LizzieButton, it's widely believed the second wave of Spanish I was so bad as it was when hundreds of thousands of troops were returning after the war.
Prior to that it had been largely contained in specific pockets.

I supported the initial lockdown, I felt relieved when it happened - but then I realised that we had basically collectively signed our own indefinite prison sentence

I didn't support lockdown initially, for exactly this reason.

I was genuinely freaked out by how easy it was to convince people to shut down their society.

But I allowed myself to be convinced that it would just be 3 weeks to let the NHS create more capacity.

I have never been more sorry to be right.

The initial reason for lockdown was met long ago - we are way past the peak, the NHS was never under any prolonged period of strain.

The problem is that us being locked in our houses is the default now.

Our freedom is something the government gets to grant, when it used to be a fundamental right we all took for granted.

I genuinely find this quite scary and it has been a source of anxiety for me since the start of lockdown.

I'm not usually an anxious person and I'm always been mentally robust and resilient. But this scares the living shit out of me and I don't think it's because I'm paranoid from being kept in captivity for so long (altough that is certainly affecting me), because I felt like this in March.

I'm not worried by illness and death. There's no point in worrying about stuff I can't control. I take reasonable steps to avoid getting cancer, but i know they are no guarantee. I know at some stage I'm going to die, and other than the odd night where I can't sleep, I don't bother dwelling on it.

But this is different. This isn't just a fact of life - a virus, a disease, an accident.

This is being done to me. My government are imprisoning me and taking away my fundamental rights, and those of my children. And they are doing it with the contrivance and delight of some of my fellow citizens.

I actually wonder if, children having been locked down, might be more politically active as young people?

Re cash etc, I’ve never been particularly anti tech, not had the money to use it much, but a half way house. I really feel anti tech now, one reason I’m not Skyping and Zooming. Much to be suspicious of and I think that it probably feeds into facial recognition technology?

Scientists now wanting a 2 week delay on schools until test, track and trace (are we fucking Royal Mail parcels now) is up and running according to the doom monger clickbait on the local rag's FB feed.

The bastards are gonna win on this one I know it. Holding off praying school don't email until they shut for half term at the end of today.

Driving I'm in Stabbo which will mean nowt to anyone who doesn't know the area but may mean something to you.

Domina I salute your dad. Here the dementors were screaming about boats out, umm.. it was the harbour authority.

Our boat is in a marina so sadly stuffed when it comes to sneaking out.

@Nihiloxia agree with everything in your post! I too had a sense of dread even before lockdown.

Nihiloxa what you’ve typed is me.

The times I’ve had to be talked down from the ledge is because I fear we’re becoming 1984. It’s been awkward because family and friends think I’m mad, mostly.

Well said Domina. I dont know when it went from "keep the number of cases at a manageable level" to "stop anyone getting the virus ever"

Funny talking about boats in England restrictions lifted in marinas but the rub is the harbour authorities said ah but you cannot go out. Jumped up civil servants.

Got it Domina! I’m the other border, about 10 miles from you. Incredibly close to the race track!

I’m just posting this in case Scottish posters find it interesting

crawfordmackenzie.net/2020/05/22/the-new-nightmare/